Title: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: tikay on March 05, 2008, 11:55:56 AM Dearest Chili, bless him, interfered with my Lappie last week, & installed McAfee something or other, & now I keep getting warning messages. (The incorrect spelling is as written by McAfee). Today, it gives the message in the Thread Title, followed by..... "McAfee has blocked a potentially unwanted program (PUP) on your computer. If you do not recognize it, we recommend that you remove the program. ABOUT THIS POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM Name: CasOnline Location - C:\Poker\BlondePoker\_SetupPoker.exe" It goes on to give me the option to "remove", or "trust", this programme. Advice, please. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: ACE2M on March 05, 2008, 11:56:57 AM click trust if you trust it and remove if you don't, in this case i would hope that you trust it.
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: tikay on March 05, 2008, 12:09:53 PM click trust if you trust it and remove if you don't, in this case i would hope that you trust it. Thank you. Well I worked out the options, but what is it, & why is it described as "Potentially Unwanted"? Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: ACE2M on March 05, 2008, 12:15:25 PM any new .exe (executable programs/files) are suspicious to mcaffe type programs, these are the kind of things that contain viruses, trojans etc and can install them onto your computer.
The problem comes when you are getting things that don't have such obvious exe names and your not sure what they are. Generally if you have downloaded something you trust just click yes to everything. Sure bongo will clarify everything exactly for you. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Bongo on March 05, 2008, 12:17:35 PM http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_133282.htm
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: tikay on March 05, 2008, 12:38:13 PM Thanks, both of you. I'm none the wiser, really, but I'm assuming it's safe. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: kinboshi on March 05, 2008, 12:50:49 PM It's the first time you've run the update on blonde since McAfee was installed, and so it's asking you if the .exe file is from a trusted source. If you select trust, it will know you you want to run this file now and in the future.
I guess it's safe, if you just downloaded it from blonde... Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Royal Flush on March 05, 2008, 01:07:03 PM Wouldn't happen with Blue Square Tony.....
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: tikay on March 05, 2008, 01:20:53 PM Wouldn't happen with Blue Square Tony..... Perhaps not "Jim", but it was (is?) bad enough having the blonde Barnet, so the thought of dyeing my hair blue is a step too far. I do love Raaby though. Why do peeps keep calling you "Jim" all of a sudden? WTF is that all about? Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Bongo on March 05, 2008, 01:31:39 PM It's the first time you've run the update on blonde since McAfee was installed, and so it's asking you if the .exe file is from a trusted source. If you select trust, it will know you you want to run this file now and in the future. I guess it's safe, if you just downloaded it from blonde... It could be more complicated than that, I remember ladbrokes got tagged as spyware once, through no fault of their own. What had happened was another operator used the same software and had been employing "questionable" techniques to distribute it. As the software was essentially the same all the scanners picked up laddies as bad too! Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Royal Flush on March 05, 2008, 01:51:42 PM Wouldn't happen with Blue Square Tony..... Perhaps not "Jim", but it was (is?) bad enough having the blonde Barnet, so the thought of dyeing my hair blue is a step too far. I do love Raaby though. Why do peeps keep calling you "Jim" all of a sudden? WTF is that all about? Just the ones who can't play poker but still spend 10hrs a day on a poker forum. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: byronkincaid on March 05, 2008, 02:00:15 PM :hello: Jim
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: dik9 on March 05, 2008, 02:08:11 PM McAfee and Norton suck TBH
Personally I would uninstall str8 away! Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: tikay on March 05, 2008, 02:25:21 PM McAfee and Norton suck TBH Personally I would uninstall str8 away! I had Norton before, I think, but Chili, who know's what he's talking about, insisted McAfeee was the dogs & installed it for me. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Royal Flush on March 05, 2008, 02:30:46 PM McAfee and Norton suck TBH Personally I would uninstall str8 away! I had Norton before, I think, but Chili, who know's what he's talking about, insisted McAfeee was the dogs & installed it for me. They do both suck, any techy will tell you so. AVG is the way to go. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: matt674 on March 05, 2008, 02:36:47 PM McAfee and Norton suck TBH Personally I would uninstall str8 away! I had Norton before, I think, but Chili, who know's what he's talking about, insisted McAfeee was the dogs & installed it for me. They do both suck, any techy will tell you so. AVG is the way to go. Bit harsh on Chili dont you think? ;whistle; Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: snoopy1239 on March 05, 2008, 02:49:06 PM Yep, I agree, they're both terrible. I'd go for AVG or NOD32 (which I believe now might be ESET).
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: kinboshi on March 05, 2008, 03:52:03 PM I use AVG, but there are plenty who'll slate me for that as well.
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Laxie on March 05, 2008, 04:16:07 PM Are you all on about the pay version of AVG? I have the free one, but reckon it might not be doing the job properly.
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: dik9 on March 05, 2008, 04:22:21 PM Free one does the job if it is accompanied properly
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Laxie on March 05, 2008, 04:23:14 PM What would you recommend to accompany it?
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: kinboshi on March 05, 2008, 04:26:13 PM What would you recommend to accompany it? An Italian salad and a fresh-baked crusty loaf. I guess he means a decent firewall (set up correctly), possibly a spyware program, and lots of common sense. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Laxie on March 05, 2008, 04:30:36 PM What would you recommend to accompany it? An Italian salad and a fresh-baked crusty loaf. I guess he means a decent firewall (set up correctly), possibly a spyware program, and lots of common sense. I have a few bits on my computer, but was told they don't work well together. The repair guy wanted to remove my AVG and Zone Alarm to be replaced by Panda Internet, but I told him I'd like to think about it. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: kinboshi on March 05, 2008, 04:40:58 PM I've heard good things about Panda, and also bad things. My Dad used to have it on his computer, but it was causing problems and he removed it.
It's the same as ISPs. Some people get along fine with one, whilst others have problem after problem. I think it'd be good if someone with a good bit of knowledge in this area could post some advice on this subject. I think there was a thread a while ago where people were posting their opinions on this subject. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: dik9 on March 05, 2008, 04:49:41 PM I use Spybot, Ad-Aware and CCleaner to assist, but some may prefer others
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Grier78 on March 05, 2008, 07:12:28 PM I have never had a problem with viruses after installing AVG and ZoneAlarm works ok enough for me. I would never pay for antivirus or firewall as they are always stuipd subscription services and are also the first ones that the virus writers develop work arounds for.
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: suzanne on March 06, 2008, 01:18:20 AM I have had a problem with AVG recently, I keep getting a warning saying my AVG needs updating but when I tried to update it said no updates can be found. My PC was playing up so I am trying the 30 day free trial at the moment but this runs out next week. I tried deleting and reinstalling but still it wont update, I havent installed anything new so im a bit baffled by this..any advice?
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: portfolio on March 06, 2008, 02:18:43 AM I have had a problem with AVG recently, I keep getting a warning saying my AVG needs updating but when I tried to update it said no updates can be found. My PC was playing up so I am trying the 30 day free trial at the moment but this runs out next week. I tried deleting and reinstalling but still it wont update, I havent installed anything new so im a bit baffled by this..any advice? ditto. and soooo v slow , its morev painfull than a tk train story................. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: Bongo on March 06, 2008, 02:32:50 AM I have never had a problem with viruses after installing AVG and ZoneAlarm works ok enough for me. I would never pay for antivirus or firewall as they are always stuipd subscription services and are also the first ones that the virus writers develop work arounds for. Why would virus writers have any (additional) motivation to work around AV just because it's paid for? I'd say the biggest factor they would use is how many people use the product, as that would mean their viruses would have more effect... It's a bit moot as they have tools that can systematically test their wares against all of the major products (like their own version of VirusTotal - which they used to use until the VT people wised up and distributed all files scanned to the AV companies). Given that the whole AV industry is essentially about playing catch up with the bad guys, who do you think is going to be able to respond the quickest? The people you pay money to, or the people you don't? Another thought... how do you tell if you AV is working? Finally - how secure is your router. There was an attack recently, in Mexico, that used vulnerabilities in routers to poison people's DNS (which says which server to connect to for a domain name) so that when they visited www.theirbank.com they were actually visiting a phishing site. Most routers ship in an insecure state... I'm told a certain major ISP is shipping a router that has huge vulnerabilities in it (which they deny), so I guess it's only a matter of time until a similar happens in the UK. A friend of mine recently suffered a similar attack - they couldn't access Pay Pal, but their flatmate could. It turned out some Malware had attacked their hosts file and was redirecting all traffic for pay pal to a 3rd party server. Luckily for them the site had been shut down and there were only mildly inconvenienced. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: suzanne on March 06, 2008, 03:20:50 AM I have never had a problem with viruses after installing AVG and ZoneAlarm works ok enough for me. I would never pay for antivirus or firewall as they are always stuipd subscription services and are also the first ones that the virus writers develop work arounds for. Why would virus writers have any (additional) motivation to work around AV just because it's paid for? I'd say the biggest factor they would use is how many people use the product, as that would mean their viruses would have more effect... It's a bit moot as they have tools that can systematically test their wares against all of the major products (like their own version of VirusTotal - which they used to use until the VT people wised up and distributed all files scanned to the AV companies). Given that the whole AV industry is essentially about playing catch up with the bad guys, who do you think is going to be able to respond the quickest? The people you pay money to, or the people you don't? Another thought... how do you tell if you AV is working? Finally - how secure is your router. There was an attack recently, in Mexico, that used vulnerabilities in routers to poison people's DNS (which says which server to connect to for a domain name) so that when they visited www.theirbank.com they were actually visiting a phishing site. Most routers ship in an insecure state... I'm told a certain major ISP is shipping a router that has huge vulnerabilities in it (which they deny), so I guess it's only a matter of time until a similar happens in the UK. A friend of mine recently suffered a similar attack - they couldn't access Pay Pal, but their flatmate could. It turned out some Malware had attacked their hosts file and was redirecting all traffic for pay pal to a 3rd party server. Luckily for them the site had been shut down and there were only mildly inconvenienced. Obviously it would make sense that if you are paying for an AV you should expect better protection than a freeby such as AVG but being a PC numpty its not easy to fathom out which ones are good and which ones are a waste of money. I originally had Norton which I downloaded via the net on a yearly subscription, I had so many problems I ended up deleting it a month later. AVG had worked fine up till now but it looks like I need to find something new, like Porty my PC is running soooo slow and playing poker is a nightmare. Is NOD32 the best one? I had this in the past and it seemed to work fine. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: dik9 on March 06, 2008, 04:30:06 AM I have had a problem with AVG recently, I keep getting a warning saying my AVG needs updating but when I tried to update it said no updates can be found. My PC was playing up so I am trying the 30 day free trial at the moment but this runs out next week. I tried deleting and reinstalling but still it wont update, I havent installed anything new so im a bit baffled by this..any advice? Uninstall all AVG, and reinstall again, never had this problem TBH. I do the priority updates manually and all of a sudden my yellow black green and red box lights up :) admittedly when it is scanning it is REALLY SLOW, so I changed the autotime scan to manual and do it when I know I will busy doing something else. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: jizzemm on March 06, 2008, 01:05:05 PM Is NOD32 the best one? IMO it is.. Not had a single problem with it, where as Norton, Panda etc etc have been no good for me.. we even use NOD on work server/system and works fine. Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: kinboshi on March 06, 2008, 01:15:31 PM Checking and protecting your hosts file is a good idea. I have to edit mine frequently (when switching between development sites and then the live sites), so I am automatically checking mine every day or so.
Title: Re: POTENTIALLY UNWANTED PROGRAM DETECTED Post by: steeveg on March 06, 2008, 01:52:59 PM I have had a problem with AVG recently, I keep getting a warning saying my AVG needs updating but when I tried to update it said no updates can be found. My PC was playing up so I am trying the 30 day free trial at the moment but this runs out next week. I tried deleting and reinstalling but still it wont update, I havent installed anything new so im a bit baffled by this..any advice? Uninstall all AVG, and reinstall again, never had this problem TBH. I do the priority updates manually and all of a sudden my yellow black green and red box lights up :) admittedly when it is scanning it is REALLY SLOW, so I changed the autotime scan to manual and do it when I know I will busy doing something else. |