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Title: How's this played? Post by: Graham C on March 06, 2008, 11:31:30 PM I'm not sure I played this that well, but I'd like some thoughts on it if possible.
PokerStars Game #15789302094: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/03/06 - 18:21:48 (ET) Table 'Ortutay III' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: DukeRayne ($119.05 in chips) Seat 2: mammothmike ($46.50 in chips) Seat 3: don_brasil ($62.60 in chips) Seat 4: Kablowee ($91.90 in chips) Seat 5: Trick111 ($70.25 in chips) Seat 6: schleppschis ($17 in chips) Seat 7: maryhadalamb ($120.40 in chips) Seat 8: fesar ($98.50 in chips) Seat 9: Graham0573 ($78.70 in chips) fesar: posts small blind $0.50 Graham0573: posts big blind $1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Graham0573 [5d 5h] DukeRayne: folds mammothmike: folds don_brasil: raises $1 to $2 Kablowee: folds Trick111: folds schleppschis: folds maryhadalamb: folds fesar: folds Graham0573: calls $1 *** FLOP *** [Qs Ac 5s] Graham0573: bets $3 don_brasil: raises $3 to $6 - instaminraise Graham0573: calls $3 *** TURN *** [Qs Ac 5s] [3d] Graham0573: checks don_brasil: bets $8 Graham0573: calls $8 *** RIVER *** [Qs Ac 5s 3d] [6d] Graham0573: bets $11 don_brasil: raises $18 to $29 Graham0573: calls $18 *** SHOW DOWN *** don_brasil: shows [Tc 9c] (high card Ace) Graham0573: shows [5d 5h] (three of a kind, Fives) Graham0573 collected $87.50 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $90.50 | Rake $3 Board [Qs Ac 5s 3d 6d] Seat 1: DukeRayne folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: mammothmike folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: don_brasil showed [Tc 9c] and lost with high card Ace Seat 4: Kablowee folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Trick111 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: schleppschis folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: maryhadalamb (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: fesar (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: Graham0573 (big blind) showed [5d 5h] and won ($87.50) with three of a kind, Fives I'm not sure checking the turn was the move here but I'd like to check. I was worried about the insta min raise on the flop which I guess defies my logic for the rest of the hand, but after the flush didn't come and there was no obvious straight on the board (couldn't see him needing the 5 3 or 6 to make a hand given the play) I was calling the raise on the river. Had I bet the turn here, he may well have folded anyway, so perhaps I got the maximum out of him I was getting, but I think I played it badly still. Opinions? Title: Re: How's this played? Post by: Longy on March 07, 2008, 01:13:37 AM I would have played it lot stronger and made less lol.
Preflop: Good Flop: Leading or check raising are both alright depending on players tendancies. Im only calling this insta min raise to use a stack-a-donk line which involves check raising the turn looking to get it in. I 3bet this out of position most of time to about $20. Turn: Check raise to $25. River: As played leading is fine and I would just shove for the rest of his stack. No monsters under my bed he has ak,aq more than aa and qq. Oh and buy in full imo. Title: Re: How's this played? Post by: crussty on March 07, 2008, 02:15:54 AM His insta min raise would suggest AK/AQ to me here so I'd reraise him on the flop hoping for a shove. If he only called then I'd look to get it all in on the turn. Build the pot with your huge hand after he's shown strength
Title: Re: How's this played? Post by: boldie on March 07, 2008, 07:46:09 AM if you have bottom set you should be prepared to go broke and never ever ever let a min-raise on the flop scare you. ever.
I think you made the most you were going to make out of this hand because your oppo had FA but I repop the flop and hope he indeed has AK/AQ and shoves against me. I never fear a higher set here..ever. I again would have lead out on the turn hoping he shoves. The river I think you played well..but now the pot is too small. the above obviously only works if your oppo has a hand...in this case you made more than I would have made. Like Longy said..always buy in for the max. Title: Re: How's this played? Post by: Graham C on March 07, 2008, 08:12:25 AM Cheers,
The not max buy in is a separate issue, I usually am in for the full amount. I know I played it badly, and not raising all in on the river at least was poor. I even assumed he had AK or AQ so why not put him in? Cheers for the replies, confidence was a bit shattered tonight so I was having concerns on how to play bottom set against a fairly aggressive opponent. On a new day I can see the problem :) Title: Re: How's this played? Post by: LuckyLloyd on March 07, 2008, 11:10:05 AM God damnit. You have a set sir. Try and get all the loot over the line at some point.
Title: Re: How's this played? Post by: AlexMartin on March 07, 2008, 02:03:59 PM "hows this played"?
a) In a vacuum, perfectly. Title: Re: How's this played? Post by: kinboshi on March 07, 2008, 02:13:05 PM Cheers, The not max buy in is a separate issue, I usually am in for the full amount. I know I played it badly, and not raising all in on the river at least was poor. I even assumed he had AK or AQ so why not put him in? Cheers for the replies, confidence was a bit shattered tonight so I was having concerns on how to play bottom set against a fairly aggressive opponent. On a new day I can see the problem :) You want a set (bottom or whatever) against an aggressive opponent. Let him bet into you, but you need to be building the pot so his bets on later streets are larger - snowballing in effect so you can get all your money in. If he has an overset, shrug, kick the cat, and reload. |