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Title: lol @ the tories
Post by: boldie on March 07, 2008, 07:57:24 AM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080307/tuk-tories-plan-to-tax-binge-drinkers-dba1618.html


SUPER STRENGHT BEER!.. rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

What do you mean super strenght? All beer is 5% +..just not the piss that you drink over here.

Funny lot, you British.


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: Indestructable on March 07, 2008, 08:04:00 AM
It's a head line grabber, but if they nick most of it what does it matter how much it costs?  :dontask:


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: boldie on March 07, 2008, 08:05:37 AM
It's a head line grabber, but if they nick most of it what does it matter how much it costs?  :dontask:

lol fair point.


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: kinboshi on March 07, 2008, 09:23:20 AM
£1.99 - bottle of 12% wine.


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: Bongo on March 07, 2008, 01:14:14 PM
Carlsberg special brew/Tennents super are ~9% and cheap piss, so I can see their point on that.


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: kinboshi on March 07, 2008, 01:17:18 PM
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=412881&in_page_id=2

Tesco sold Pavlov vodka for £6.23, but when VAT and excise duties are excluded this is the equivalent of just 17p a bottle.

A bottle of Tesco value whisky cost £6.86 (I bet that's a quality tipple ;D), or, before taxes, just 36.8p or £4.42 per case of 12.

In another illustration, 40 bottles of Stella Artois were on sale at supermarkets for £16, or 40p per bottle, less than half the usual retail price of 90p to 95p per bottle.

I'm all for cheap booze.  Why would I want to spend more?  Should they increase the price of lard to stop people eating it?

Also why don't they do this with petrol?


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: boldie on March 07, 2008, 01:18:47 PM
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=412881&in_page_id=2

Tesco sold Pavlov vodka for £6.23, but when VAT and excise duties are excluded this is the equivalent of just 17p a bottle.

A bottle of Tesco value whisky cost £6.86, or, before taxes, just 36.8p or £4.42 per case of 12.

In another illustration, 40 bottles of Stella Artois were on sale at supermarkets for £16, or 40p per bottle, less than half the usual retail price of 90p to 95p per bottle.

I'm all for cheap booze.  Why would I want to spend more?  Should they increase the price of lard to stop people eating it?

Also why don't they do this with petrol?

indeed SOME people drink too much and the Tories say "Let's have all people pay loads more in tax"..that's just a tax hike and if Gordon Brown had suggested it the Tories would go nuts.


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: Bongo on March 07, 2008, 01:31:38 PM
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The extra cash raised would be recycled into tax cuts for lower-alcohol beers and ciders, which could fall in price by 8p a pint in pubs.

Shadow chancellor George Osborne said the Treasury would not take in any extra revenue as a result of the changes, which would not hit "the vast majority of law-abiding, responsible drinkers".

They could be lying of course... :P


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: boldie on March 07, 2008, 01:33:07 PM
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The extra cash raised would be recycled into tax cuts for lower-alcohol beers and ciders, which could fall in price by 8p a pint in pubs.

Shadow chancellor George Osborne said the Treasury would not take in any extra revenue as a result of the changes, which would not hit "the vast majority of law-abiding, responsible drinkers".

They could be lying of course... :P

no..surely not the Tories.

BTW...funny how they say "law abiding" drinkers..last time I checked binge drinking was not a crime.


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: MrsBoldie on March 07, 2008, 01:33:39 PM
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The extra cash raised would be recycled into tax cuts for lower-alcohol beers and ciders, which could fall in price by 8p a pint in pubs.

Shadow chancellor George Osborne said the Treasury would not take in any extra revenue as a result of the changes, which would not hit "the vast majority of law-abiding, responsible drinkers".

They could be lying of course... :P

They were probably drunk at the time!


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: kinboshi on March 07, 2008, 01:34:19 PM
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The extra cash raised would be recycled into tax cuts for lower-alcohol beers and ciders, which could fall in price by 8p a pint in pubs.

Shadow chancellor George Osborne said the Treasury would not take in any extra revenue as a result of the changes, which would not hit "the vast majority of law-abiding, responsible drinkers".

They could be lying of course... :P

no..surely not the Tories.

BTW...funny how they say "law abiding" drinkers..last time I checked binge drinking was not a crime.

Leaving a pint unfinished.  That's a crime.


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 07, 2008, 01:43:03 PM
  Should they increase the price of lard to stop people eating it?


***Prays they don't***


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: NoflopsHomer on March 07, 2008, 02:31:04 PM
I like to drink an occasional trappist ale, which are pretty beers from Belgium and Holland. (Usually between 8% and 12%). They're a pretty niche sort of market, but they'd be under the 'super-strength' beer guidelines, and to be fair, it's not like you get a bunch of kids going:

"What we on tonight lads? Chimay Blue?"

"I'm more of a Rochefort man myself..."

"Six or Eight?"

"Don't they have any Ten?"

"Sod it, let's just get a 3 litre bottle of White Lighting instead..."


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: kinboshi on March 07, 2008, 02:46:36 PM
I like to drink an occasional trappist ale, which are pretty beers from Belgium and Holland. (Usually between 8% and 12%). They're a pretty niche sort of market, but they'd be under the 'super-strength' beer guidelines, and to be fair, it's not like you get a bunch of kids going:

"What we on tonight lads? Chimay Blue?"

"I'm more of a Rochefort man myself..."

"Six or Eight?"

"Don't they have any Ten?"

"Sod it, let's just get a 3 litre bottle of White Lighting instead..."

LOL - are they your butler's kids?


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: boldie on March 07, 2008, 03:12:34 PM
I like to drink an occasional trappist ale, which are pretty beers from Belgium and Holland. (Usually between 8% and 12%). They're a pretty niche sort of market, but they'd be under the 'super-strength' beer guidelines, and to be fair, it's not like you get a bunch of kids going:

"What we on tonight lads? Chimay Blue?"

"I'm more of a Rochefort man myself..."

"Six or Eight?"

"Don't they have any Ten?"

"Sod it, let's just get a 3 litre bottle of White Lighting instead..."

LOL - are they your butler's kids?

 rotflmfao


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: The_duke on March 07, 2008, 06:06:09 PM
This initiative is so wrong on all levels - where's my passport ?


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: NoflopsHomer on March 07, 2008, 06:06:48 PM
This initiative is so wrong on all levels - where's my expensive new ID card?


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: Teacake on March 07, 2008, 06:43:27 PM
I blame the Nu Labour nanny state!

Oh wait, that someone elses line.


Title: Re: lol @ the tories
Post by: ifm on March 07, 2008, 07:46:05 PM
when i first heard this i thought "how the hell could they get away with it"?
i think some of the manufacturers of these drinks might have a bit of a problem with the government pricing them out of the market.
aren't there constraint of trade laws in this country?

What the hell is binge drinking anyway?
It sounds like an invention to explain away the rise in petty crimes, forget that the only bobbies you ever see are too busy checking car tax to actually sort out the kids outside the offy.