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Hello everybody

This hand happened in the very beginning of a tournement.

PokerStars Game #16092453602: Tournament #80995611, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/03/19 - 13:04:42 (ET)
Table '80995611 164' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: sjampain (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: Comander_15 (2990 in chips)
Seat 3: musne (2925 in chips)
Seat 4: bumblebee101 (3310 in chips)
Seat 5: dangaveyou (3110 in chips)
Seat 6: sweepersquad (2920 in chips)
Seat 7: julienfetus (3040 in chips)
Seat 8: Roccocabrio (2860 in chips)
Seat 9: madace1 (2845 in chips)
julienfetus: posts small blind 10
Roccocabrio: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to julienfetus [Qd Qs]
madace1: folds
sjampain: folds
Comander_15: folds
musne: folds
bumblebee101: folds
dangaveyou: calls 20
sweepersquad: raises 900 to 920

The tournement has just begun, and I did'nt want to have spent 5$50 to go out after few hands...

What do you do here ?

Fold, no need to gamble early on.

U taking the piss? 

lol.


snap shove it jpean.  Its a $5 torn, ppl are retarded on the whole.

sorry... "PPL" ??

Short for people.

Shove it all in btw and 99% sure Flushy is being his typical sarcastic self.

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in fact, I just called him and bet a Ace high flop without the queen and he has fold

maybe not well played but I didn't have no idea of how play that hand...

However guys, even if 5$ may be a ridiculous buy in for you, I'm just a beginner and this is the ones I play now to learn and construct a bankroll, so even if it's not a lot, I try to play well...

I dont think people were derogatory about the size of stake you play, but referring to the bad players that play at these stakes who tend to overraise and call with inferior holdings.
You decided to call and bet out when theres an A on the flop which could have you beat. It obviously didnt so you picked up his 900, If you had shoved preflop he may have called with JJ, 10s etc and you would have got an extra 2k from him.

If you are willing to put your chips in on the flop when you may be behind why not put them in preflop and get a double up
Hes only likely to call you on the flop if you are beat but more likely to call you preflop when you are beating him

sorry, English is not my native language and it make me sometimes badly interpret what say people...

However, after having read you, I understand that I've made a lot of errors here. thanks guys !

Shove preflop.

And keep going!

you are such a retard flushy, you moan about people that want to use blonde for whatever without improving there game on the PHA board etc then you come up with inspired answers like that.

Don't hold back mate.   rotflmfao

i wont all his replys are the same just comes accross as such a twat

don't give hell eachother guys...

(but it's true that because I don't understand very well ironic answers, I'll appreciate if you don't do some pls...)

I would've been all in preflop would put him on a lower pair like 6s or 7s a lot of beginners seem 2 like making this play.

LOL hes a good guy really.
I took a look at 2+2 PHA and people there dont go into detail  all the time, its usually about 5 word replys
i.e You should have pushed preflop
At least Flushy does explain his reasoning behind his way of playing hands most of the time even if he does come across as  a ....... occasionaly ;D and we all can be guilty of that
I wouldnt even view PHA before because of all the snide comments but its improved lately imo.
People are going to disagree on how to play a hand but thats what poker is all about.
You take what you want from peoples perception on how to play a hand and hope it may help to improve your own game. Its your own decision in the end.

You've still got class Craig. Good post.

im not just talking about his PHA posts , very rarley do i see a post from him where its not what are you doing raising 4x there? ...man that was so bad ...ur just f***ckin ribbish etc....nothing constructive...atleast mantis and lloyd will put a bit of effort into there posts when replying to a genuine question instead of the tone of his posts

see Flushy........been telling you for years you were ribbish

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Just for a bit of background, Lloyd decided to give up on the PHA board today because he felt his time is wasted, i would probably be better off doing the same thing but i find it amusing so stay around. Mantis is a losing tournament player.

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So what your saying Flushy is we shouldn't take notice of Mantis?

if thats the case then the PHA board should just be put in the bin, your one of the very few high level tourney winners on blonde who post on this , you could give constructive comments to genuine questions from low level players who dont know what to do in cetain situations instead you "stay around for amusment" what a farce

 :goodpost: ;iagree;

People rarely actually ask for help with a situation, when they do i try my best to explain my reasoning.

When someone asks what should i do against a 46BB raise i am pretty sure that 95% of the posters on the board are going to be able to answer it, as such i made a joke, and lets be honest who actually believe the OP is a real person!

guys... go on a poker table and resolve that problem there, no ? ;surrender;

I'm sorry if sometimes, answering to me looks like evident for some of you  ;topofclass;

JP Kelly imo

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:goodpost: ;iagree; ;spam;

Omg at this thread,looooooooool.

On a serious note its a shame, Lloyd has given up posting, as when he did take it seriously, his posts were very good.

his posts were very very good

why did he give it up?

I don't know, though he appeared frustrated that essentially some of the arguements on PHA seemed to be going in circles.

it's a shame... I, I like guys who don't only says "do this" or "do that" but who explain why doing this or that...

fold this post Jpean

thats my advice

:( i have heard 3 quality players on training vids talking about betting to gain info in the last few days. hoping to get some more discussion on that. was thinking maybe there's another level above the bet only for value or as a bluff thing.

A++++ imo.

I think it may be the fault of Mantis!

The thing with betting for information is your opponents need to be predictable for it to work.

untrue.

You lead top pair to find out where you are, unpredictable player may choose to call raise or fold.

 ur dredging the bottom of information bets there.  thats not what i/we should be concerned with. We can do a good example if you want in another thread for fun debate if you like?

For the record i am talking donkaments not cash

I for one think both Le JP et Le Fleushy are being, 'ow you say, minkies ?

ok, crossed wires.

and lol that this French JP having a windup at all our expenses. He doesnt understand english welll....yet he drops in some mighty fine words occasionally. And, more importantly, why would a french dude be on an English forum. LOL @ all of us. WP Mr Kelly.

I post here because I've find some nice people who help me to play better... more than when I post on french fora...

LOL. Ur attempting to not have a true grasp of the english language, then let slip ur true colours at the end. Nice use of fora, rarely used. ;)

LOL jpean is indeed french and uses a .fr email addy ... you mugs are barking up the wrong tree LOL

you mugs are barking up the wrong tree LOL .... You may need to put that into a translator programme jpean ;)

phew, when i saw your name  on this thread kev i thought you had started to post advice ffs!

glad to see your 'one win a year' hasn't gone to your head :)

You cant educate the gifted son .... I steer clear of the dick measuring contests that go on in here ;)

He's a genuine poster.

On fora.

Hang on ... is "rookie 1 hit in 2008 despite playing 3,285 mtt's" giving me grief ??

Im on 3 victories for 2008 mate ... ;)


Fk ... now I am getting involved in the dick measuring contest , im getting my coat nd leaving this board :)

You can use this tape measure..

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I'll use this one...

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Posted by: Royal Flush

sharkscope says I'm a winning tournament player and I trust them more than Jim.

I'm better live though.

Either way I still think I'm learning the game...but I'm not paying for that education. So this is a good thing. I think the bulk of that education is learning how different types of people think and thus how you can read and manipulate them. I think the PHA Board is an invaluable resource in this respect because it gives you direct access to that information....and it's free.

The best way to take the board is like this from I KNOW IT....


There is no obligation to take anything away. You may disagree with almost everything someone has to say but you may stumble across one sentence from that person that improves you as a player by 1%. It's down to each individual player to filter out what makes sense to them and what they want to use. But there really HAS to be a wide diversity of opinion to make it worthwhile. If you found that everyone thinks the same there really would be no point and no education on offer. So it really surprises when difference of opinion is met with hostility on the board.

I think one of the fundamentals of a GOOD poker player is an immunity to emotion. So if you get a big hand you aren't nervous, if you take a bad beat you don't tilt....and importantly you don't let other players get on your tits and affect what you're trying to achieve. So when discussing a hand of poker why would you have an emotional outburst and threaten not to post on the board because people are frustrating you? Your strat and your character are two different, but equally important things, and people should be working on improving both if they want to improve their play.

The thing is that most people really do worry about their status and where they stand in the grand scheme of things and this is a weakness. On the PHA Board if agreement is not forthcoming some people will throw their toys out of the pram. But we've already said that your education wont benefit from agreement so it makes no sense to think like this. Learning how to cope with and understand a different mentality to yours is as important as learning how to play Jacks UTG imo. It is all poker. I would suggest to those that don't want to post not to. Posting that you're not going to post is a diet starting tomorrow. Those that want to get something from the board should learn to welcome difference, take away what you want, and stop allowing people to offend you.

Cant believe i'v only just seen this thread A++

I just choked on my cup of tea  rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

Great thread  :D