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Title: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: gatso on March 20, 2008, 01:55:56 PM
today's 2 hot topics.

1) what country do eskimos come from? it turns out that noone I'm with today has seen an eskimo with a passport so we're unsure.
someone is claiming that they're all Russian but I'm not having that.

2) why do laptop touchpads only work with bodyparts and not common household objects?

discuss


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: boldie on March 20, 2008, 02:05:59 PM
today's 2 hot topics.

1) what country do eskimos come from? it turns out that noone I'm with today has seen an eskimo with a passport so we're unsure.
someone is claiming that they're all Russian but I'm not having that.

2) why do laptop touchpads only work with bodyparts and not common household objects?

discuss


Eskimos are Enuits or Sami from my understanding. The Enuits are towards America and the Sami are staying in Lapland (northern Finland) I couldn't be bothered looking it up so I might be completely wrong.


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: Ginger on March 20, 2008, 02:08:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo

Couldn't be bothered to read all of it, but by skimming it looks like Alaska and "Russian Far East"  :dontask:

As for the touch pads... I've wondered that myself! lol.


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: gatso on March 20, 2008, 02:19:57 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo

Couldn't be bothered to read all of it, but by skimming it looks like Alaska and "Russian Far East"  :dontask:

As for the touch pads... I've wondered that myself! lol.

also appears from that link that they come from SW England   :dontask:

"There are two main groups referred to as Eskimo: Yupik and Inuit. A third group, Unangam, is related. The Yupik language dialects and cultures in Alaska and eastern Siberia have evolved in place beginning with the original (pre-Dorset)"


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: Mango99 on March 20, 2008, 04:22:48 PM

2) why do laptop touchpads only work with bodyparts and not common household objects?

discuss

Wow, that's totally nutso! I thought you were joking, so grabbed a few random household objects and tried to operate the touchpad.. Strangely, and totally unexpectedly, it actually didn't work... Does this mean you can't operate a touchpad when using gloves?


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: boldie on March 20, 2008, 04:33:33 PM

2) why do laptop touchpads only work with bodyparts and not common household objects?

discuss

Wow, that's totally nutso! I thought you were joking, so grabbed a few random household objects and tried to operate the touchpad.. Strangely, and totally unexpectedly, it actually didn't work... Does this mean you can't operate a touchpad when using gloves?

you can use gloves as far as i know..the household items thing was new to me as well.


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: matt674 on March 20, 2008, 05:04:16 PM

2) why do laptop touchpads only work with bodyparts and not common household objects?

discuss

Wow, that's totally nutso! I thought you were joking, so grabbed a few random household objects and tried to operate the touchpad.. Strangely, and totally unexpectedly, it actually didn't work... Does this mean you can't operate a touchpad when using gloves?

you can use gloves as far as i know..the household items thing was new to me as well.

might depend on what material the gloves are made from - doesnt work with wool


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: Azirapheal on March 20, 2008, 05:53:45 PM
Touch Pads use a technology called field distortion sensing, a form of capacitance-sensing technology.

Under the sealed surface are two layers of fine electrical conductors, arranged in a grid, which create a surface electrical field.

When you touch the surface, your fingertip distorts the electrical field at that spot. I can precisely locate the touch of your fingertip by scanning the grid and sensing the strength of the distortion on each conductor.

So the assumption would be that using a pen or orther non charged item would not result in a field distortion and would therefore not result in the cursor moving.

Az


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: wader leg on March 20, 2008, 06:35:32 PM
Fingernails don't seem to work, neither does the knuckle of my little finger.
 
:dontask:

Further research taking place.


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: RichEO on March 20, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
Fingernails don't seem to work, neither does the knuckle of my little finger.
 
:dontask:

Further research taking place.

What about dismembered digits?


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: Colchester Kev on March 20, 2008, 06:50:58 PM
Fingernails don't seem to work, neither does the knuckle of my little finger.
 
:dontask:

Further research taking place.

What about dismembered digits?

I have just chopped off my finger and tried it .... doesnt work.


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: Azirapheal on March 21, 2008, 05:05:49 AM
your fingernails are dead, from what i understand it is the interference caused by the electrical field in your fingers cells - also - a nail may have too fine a point to actually register across enough to count as a disturbance.

i suppose you could always test it with your member if you want to do a nail comparison ;)

god that was juvenile of me.


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: celtic on March 21, 2008, 05:11:13 AM
my nail on my left index finger can operate it.

best of blonde thread this.

more testing later


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: Robert HM on March 21, 2008, 07:45:36 AM
Fingernails don't seem to work, neither does the knuckle of my little finger.
 
:dontask:

Further research taking place.

What about dismembered digits?

I have just chopped off my finger and tried it .... doesnt work.

your fingernails are dead, from what i understand it is the interference caused by the electrical field in your fingers cells - also - a nail may have too fine a point to actually register across enough to count as a disturbance.

i suppose you could always test it with your member if you want to do a nail comparison ;)

god that was juvenile of me.

Still got that knife handy Kev?


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: Linux on March 21, 2008, 08:05:11 AM
I tried it with my nose, but i couldnt see the screen


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: gatso on March 21, 2008, 11:32:00 AM
Touch Pads use a technology called field distortion sensing, a form of capacitance-sensing technology.

Under the sealed surface are two layers of fine electrical conductors, arranged in a grid, which create a surface electrical field.

When you touch the surface, your fingertip distorts the electrical field at that spot. I can precisely locate the touch of your fingertip by scanning the grid and sensing the strength of the distortion on each conductor.

So the assumption would be that using a pen or orther non charged item would not result in a field distortion and would therefore not result in the cursor moving.

Az

err, thanks Az.

unfortunately despite getting such an in depth answer I'm still none the wiser.

my latest experiment tells me that gloves made of kitchen roll work


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: nirvana on March 21, 2008, 02:38:20 PM
A battery works (AA, in my experiment)


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: gatso on March 21, 2008, 02:44:08 PM
A battery works (AA, in my experiment)

lol, good find, how many items did you try before you found one that worked?

my AAA works intermittently


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: cia260895 on March 21, 2008, 04:16:17 PM
iced finger buns from tesco's work


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: scotty2hatty on March 22, 2008, 01:29:54 AM
Permanent black marker pens do not work.


Title: Re: eskimos and touchpads
Post by: Royal Flush on March 23, 2008, 04:21:44 AM
Permanent black marker pens do not work.

What about other colours?