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Title: Getting paid to play? Post by: Slick-Poker on March 20, 2008, 03:57:58 PM http://www.londonjobs.co.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.pl?selection=927396687&src=search
Can this be for real? Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on March 20, 2008, 04:01:54 PM Yes it probably is...
All you have to do is break even and the person paying you to play is going to make money out of your rake.. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: boldie on March 20, 2008, 04:21:59 PM Yes it probably is... indeed.All you have to do is break even and the person paying you to play is going to make money out of your rake.. Wonder what he's paying though. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: tikay on March 20, 2008, 05:01:24 PM Sounds like a regular "Trader Scheme". Tread warily with Trader Schemes, there are some iffy ones around nowadays, though the well-established ones seem to play with a straight bat. If it looks too good to be true, it invariably is. That's not to suggest, of course, that this one is anything but perfectly proper. One has to wonder, though, why they'd need to advertise this outside of the regular Poker Village. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: KarmaDope on March 20, 2008, 05:35:23 PM Its the guy who runs the Gutshot.
Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Ironside on March 20, 2008, 05:37:44 PM Its the guy who runs the Gutshot. your quick today adam Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: hans47 on March 20, 2008, 05:54:48 PM Have applied will tell you the outcome!
Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: AndrewT on March 20, 2008, 05:56:11 PM It's been brought up on the Gutshot forum and Barry has answered there.
They pay you some money (unspecified) for playing a minimum number of hours or hands and take a percentage (unspecified) of your winnings. And collect all your rake. :) Barry is obviously hoping that Metro and Standard readers have never heard of rakeback... Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Ironside on March 20, 2008, 06:00:50 PM It's been brought up on the Gutshot forum and Barry has answered there. They pay you some money (unspecified) for playing a minimum number of hours or hands and take a percentage (unspecified) of your winnings. And collect all your rake. :) Barry is obviously hoping that Metro and Standard readers have never heard of rakeback... do they bankroll you? Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Graham C on March 20, 2008, 10:04:12 PM lol hope so otherwise it's not exactly job of the year!
Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Slick-Poker on March 21, 2008, 08:42:05 PM I replied to the ad and they start you off on £100 per week as long as you play 20+ hours of cash per week (>50c-$1 NLH) and a bankroll of anything from $500-$10,000. you also get to keep anthing from 50-80% depending on levels and rake.
They stuck me on at $1000 Br and a ton a week. Not bad! Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: ripple11 on March 21, 2008, 08:51:02 PM I replied to the ad and they start you off on £100 per week as long as you play 20+ hours of cash per week (>50c-$1 NLH) and a bankroll of anything from $500-$10,000. you also get to keep anthing from 50-80% depending on levels and rake. They stuck me on at $1000 Br and a ton a week. Not bad! rotflmfao Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: AceofWands on March 21, 2008, 11:54:45 PM Isn't employing people to play on your own site a bit dubious? Presumably all this has to by payed for by the "mug" punters. Are these shills identifyable on the site? I think if I was playing against people payed by the owners of the site I would want to know who they are. Or better still go play on site that doesn't use such underhand methods.
Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Moskvich on March 22, 2008, 12:33:51 AM http://www.londonjobs.co.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.pl?selection=927396687&src=search Can this be for real? I replied to the ad and they start you off on £100 per week as long as you play 20+ hours of cash per week (>50c-$1 NLH) and a bankroll of anything from $500-$10,000. you also get to keep anthing from 50-80% depending on levels and rake. They stuck me on at $1000 Br and a ton a week. Not bad! Wow, nice work... You've done very well there, especially since the last post on the Gutshot forum seems to suggest that they're only planning on meeting applicants next week. I'd have thought you'd have to have some sort of connection with Gutshot to get such a good deal... But if you were somehow connected with them then you wouldn't need to have posted your original question on this thread. Hmmmm... Oh I don't know, it's all much too confusing for me to work out... rotflmfao Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: M3boy on March 22, 2008, 05:46:43 AM $1000 bankroll to play 50c $1 is way too small imo
Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: byronkincaid on March 22, 2008, 07:33:15 AM $1000 bankroll to play 50c $1 is way too small imo not if it's someone else's money Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: boldie on March 22, 2008, 12:14:18 PM $1000 bankroll to play 50c $1 is way too small imo isn't it the same amount as DtD did for their trader scheme? Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Gryff on March 22, 2008, 01:02:39 PM Isn't employing people to play on your own site a bit dubious? Presumably all this has to by payed for by the "mug" punters. Are these shills identifyable on the site? I think if I was playing against people payed by the owners of the site I would want to know who they are. Or better still go play on site that doesn't use such underhand methods. A lot of sites use props ( a paid player ) the difference is they play off their own bankrolls, playing from the sites bankroll is indeed shilling. Its not so uncommon amongst smaller sites trying to generate more stable traffic so people are there to start games or prevent as many games from breaking. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: M3boy on March 22, 2008, 02:45:30 PM $1000 bankroll to play 50c $1 is way too small imo not if it's someone else's money It doesnt matter who's money it is for bankroll purposes. 10xbuyin just isnt enough Also, it is not just small sites that do this Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: RED-DOG on March 22, 2008, 02:58:29 PM Can I just ask, where does the "Getting paid to play" bit come in?
As far as I can see, they pay you nothing. They furnish you with a small amount of money to be used strictly as a tool for making them a profit and giving them your rakeback. "Paying to play" seems a more apt title. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Graham C on March 22, 2008, 03:32:20 PM It's not costing you anything, you use their bankroll and keep some of the profits.
Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: RED-DOG on March 22, 2008, 03:38:46 PM It's not costing you anything, you use their bankroll while you're winning and they keep some of your profits. FYP Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Moskvich on March 22, 2008, 03:39:27 PM Can I just ask, where does the "Getting paid to play" bit come in? As far as I can see, they pay you nothing. They furnish you with a small amount of money to be used strictly as a tool for making them a profit and giving them your rakeback. "Paying to play" seems a more apt title. Well, if they give you £100 a week and if playing can't cost you any money, then they're paying you to play, no? I guess you're really just getting rakeback at 25-30% or whatever. But in this case it's a guaranteed income, whereas normally you'd have to break even to make that as profit. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Graham C on March 22, 2008, 03:42:04 PM I quite agree with you, it's not a scheme I'd partake in, mainly because if I was confident that I was a decent winning NL100 player, why wouldn't I want to use my own money and keep all profits plus any rakeback or loyalty bonuses.
Perhaps I should call them :D Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: AceofWands on March 22, 2008, 03:54:14 PM The "wage" would presumably be taxable if you earn enough to pay tax. And any money they win under these circumstances could hardly be considered gambling winnings either since they are not risking any money of their own. Maybe the Revenue and Customs would be interested in such "workers".
This whole thing is rather disturbing. I think we should compile a list of sites that use this practice so people can be warned. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: RED-DOG on March 22, 2008, 03:58:51 PM The "wage" would presumably be taxable if you earn enough to pay tax. And any money they win under these circumstances could hardly be considered gambling winnings either since they are not risking any money of their own. Maybe the Revenue and Customs would be interested in such "workers". This whole thing is rather disturbing. I think we should compile a list of sites that use this practice so people can be warned. Nope. Good luck to them and anyone who plays for them. Count me out of any group who want to report people to the tax man. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: AceofWands on March 22, 2008, 04:08:02 PM The "wage" would presumably be taxable if you earn enough to pay tax. And any money they win under these circumstances could hardly be considered gambling winnings either since they are not risking any money of their own. Maybe the Revenue and Customs would be interested in such "workers". This whole thing is rather disturbing. I think we should compile a list of sites that use this practice so people can be warned. INope. Good luck to them and anyone who plays for them. Count me out of any group who want to report people to the tax man. I wasn't suggesting that anyone shop anyone to the taxman. Just pointing out that the very favourable tax regime that applies to professional poker players in the UK probably may not extend to anyone employed in a scheme such as this. I would not want to play on site employing shills so I would want to know which ones do. Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: Graham C on March 22, 2008, 05:07:47 PM Does it make a difference to you though? Personally I couldn't be arsed to seek out sites where there may be a few shill players going about, there's plenty of other players but I don't mind who's money I take :)
Title: Re: Getting paid to play? Post by: AceofWands on March 22, 2008, 07:08:56 PM There is the ethical angle. The whole thing seems seems underhand and lacking in tranparency. It does nothing to add to the integrity of poker as game which has an image problem in that area already.
There is no shortage of poker sites to choose from. So on purely a selfish level I can't think of why anyone would want to play on a site that is known to use shills?. Surely the more clueless the better :) |