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$10k gaurenteed, Level 2 15/30 and havent played a hand, not much info on the table.

Im on BB
UTG +1 calls
Mid Position calls
SB calls 15

I have  Kd 3s

Flop is  3d Ts Kh

I bet 90
UTG+1 calls
Mid Pos. calls
SB fold

Turn is  3c

I bet 150
UTG+1 folds
Mid Pos. calls

River is  Jd

I bet 240

Matey Boy goes allin and he has me covered.

Do you call or fold?

very easy call.

I did and he had KK which I certainly didnt expect, I was more worried about JJ or TT, so with 3 potencial better hands beating me I still call?

Colddeckaments!

I don't think you ever pass here, and its hard to put him on KK the way the hand plays out.  I can't believe that he doesn't raise pre, its at these early stages of the tournament when players can get in cheaply that big hand get turned over.

Yeah you can't be folding full houses, Suzanne. KK is indeed unexpected ..limping with it from mid positiong is just about criminal I think.

It's harsh but if someone has a better full house that's just unlucky. You can't doubt yourself over something like this. when you have a full house in holdem you are very rarely behind.

usually in this spot i have AA and cant believe K3 just crushed me after slowplaying my monster


call every time

LOL! 


Me in boldie on agreement that can't be right!

Call every time.

You have to also consider what you're ahead of that he might play the same way, not just what you're losing to. He could easily have KT, KJ, AQ, even AK, as well as the case 3. Then consider that there are 16 possible combinations that he can have just of AQ - but only 9 possible combinations that he can hold of TT/JJ/KK combined. (And you have to discount the likelihood of them, as he didn't raise preflop). So even excluding the real possibility that he's an idiot doing this with nothing, you're miles and miles ahead of his range of legitimate hands. Unlucky!

You have bet for information, the guy has told you he has a close to nut hand, you must now pass the non-nut hand.

rotflmfao flushysarcieaments

nothing to say about his way to play after the flop, but IMO it's many more criminal to limp with KK with a dude who limps before him...

lol. Hand shows pretty well how important hand-reading is. but there really is no point to this thread.

Surely with this you will have to play the hand based on how you read the player?

When all is said and done you do not have the nuts, just close, and how many times do you need to hear - always look at what could beat you not what you have.

A house is a fine hand, just remember that it is beatable.

That said mind you can't fold everything all the time because it might be beat or you'll actually turn into a rock lol

Why is there no point to the thread?

I cant believe im actually agreeing with Flushy here.

He was flat calling all the way so I have no idea if I am ahead, his allin on the river suggests he has a better hand, it was  very early in the tourney so im also thinking that he could have been trying to steal the pot with the range of hands that Moskvich pointed out.

The reason I posted is because given the same circumstances I would probably do the same again given that I no information on the table and there was no reraise. I think if he had reraised me on the river I might have folded as alarm bells were ringing very loud, the allin seemed a bit desperate.

So far we have

Call                                          Fold                                              On the fence

Boldie                                      Flushy                                            Bhoywonder
GlasgowBandit                                                                               Jpean
Newportlad                                                                                   Grey Pete
Moskvich

and Alex Martin..was there any point in your post!!

I very nearly folded..does that mean im nearly a rock?

There is always point to the thread - people have answered you.

I'm on the fence - probably as I never decide 100% what to do until it is in front of me. If I don't know what I am going to do then how can anyone else read me lol.

I would probably have played the hand, but what I would do is not necessarily what I would recommend to do. After all I don't win everything so something is wrong.

All I really know is that the more I play the more I realise that I probably shouldn't play until I have a stupid amount of money to ride all the bad beats.

For some reason I still keep playing, oh well just another case of not following my own advice hehe.

Maybe a small pebble perhaps lol

lol, sighs and wanders off to join Lucky Lloyd. Take what i say with a pinch of salt Suzanne, but seriously, this is a very simple call. Coolers are generally unavoidable, esp this type.

p.s methinks Flushy was being sarcastic, ;)

Suzanne. Call very quickly and its not close.

This is a small buyin comp on the internet i presume and our villain does this with alot more hand that we are beating than losing against. Any 3, k10,kj, maybee ak and random bad bluff. If they are bad enough to limp kk preflop here then they are bad enough to stack the lot with a worse hand than k3.

Oh and as for Flushy he is being sarcastic, no doubt.

Call from me too.  KK has played it badly but got away with it.

Big ((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))) Alex.

On a more serious note though, us wee small time players are trying our best to improve our game and I know you are undoubtedly a better player than me so how does this comment help?


I assumed that you meant I hadnt read the hand correctly? Now you say its a very simple call. Can you see how confusing all this can be.

Then for once im thinking maybe Flushy is right but straight away both Alex and Longy have said he is taking the p**s

I dont know :-(

Edit..I think I still would call and move on to the next tourney.

Thanks for all the advise guys x

Just a suggestion...

I wonder whether a mod shouldn't sometimes move threads from the main PHA board into the Learning Centre board, if they're simple questions or questions with a relatively simple answer, like this one. I personally don't care where they are, but if regular posters are getting fed up with what they see as daft questions, and resorting to sarcastic or dismissive answers, then it's not doing anyone any good.

I'm not being critical of your question, Suzanne - as far as I'm concerned, if someone feels they have a legitimate question, then they have a legitimate question. Just wondering if the LC board isn't a better place for this particular thread. And maybe for some others that just want a pretty basic answer and don't want/justify much in the way of actual analysis.

Good point.

My mistake, can someone move it please.

I don't actually think it is your mistake - if someone has a question to which they don't know the answer, then how can they know whether their question is simple or complex?

I'm just suggesting that in the interests of both the PHA and the LC boards maybe one of the LC board mods could pick up any posts that they feel would be better suited there than here. Might help avoid the sarcy comments.

I think you have a point, unfortunately neither me or the other LC mods have the power to move anything from one board to another, My modding powers are purely in the Learning centre.

i love poker

as KEV intimated earlier

and CAMBO ensued


this is a place we come to to learn


my AA? was a daft i kbow but i really needed some confirmation that i was doing the right thing,and i dont have the friends that can tell me otherwise,excepct here TBH.I take all your commentsd with serious intentions...and i appreciate that..but sometimes,we need some confirmation from flushy ( who i respect )and other  online pros