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This is my exit hand form the comp in Eq Chance tonight.

15 left, blinds 1500 3000. I have 31000 and am in the BB with 5d 8d

EP raises to 8500 (they have similar stack), all pass to me. With the blinds about to go to 2000 4000 I call the extra 5500. (shoving on a non AK board)

Flop is 3 diamonds and I have up n down str8 flush draw.

All the money goes in on the flop (i bet out 6k, they move all in I call)

On their backs and I am drawing totally dead.

What hand do they have? And what is the flop?

flop 6d 7d Ad (or anything other than 9d or 4d) and they have 9d 4d?

Raise in EP with 9d 4d ?

Wrong

Flop 9d Td Jd opp has Qd Kd?

2d 3d 4d... he has Ad 6d

More believable guesses, but still wrong.

so you've never played against ali malu then?

lol, yes I have. I take your point

all answers could be correct but pointless quiz if its guess someones hand. Or is this a poorly disguised look how ul I am thread? £1 in the badbeat box sir

Reminds me of a beautiful hand i had in Drogheda a year ago... Deepstacks, all playing about 20k with it 100/200...

I raise Ah 2h , 600, button and big blind call. Flop 4h 5h Jh. Big blind bets, i flat, button raises, Big Blind jams, i call button calls... On there backs..

3h 6h for big blind, so open ended straight flush draw... with made flush obv.

Qh 7h for button, so made flush.

Obv i have one of the straight flush blockers and button the other. Both drawing deaddd LOL

7d 9d Td

Jd 6d


This is really pointless tbh!

No , not a bad luck story at all. Its jus one of those things.

The dealer said if I posted the story, he doubted that many would guess correctly - I was just interested to see if he was right/wrong tbh

wait for part two of the quiz where you have to guess the colour of his boxers and also what he had for his supper ;)

Damn, you've spoiled it now! lol

3d 4d 6d and the opponent has the Ad 7d but the dealer has mistakenly turned over his first card which meant it was now the burn card which was the 2d

boxers black
supper kebab on way home from casino

lol call ep raise from 10BB stack with 58 soooooted

Then flop a miracle and lead!!!

Trust you.

I know you (and others) disagree with this line, but I accumulate alot of chips this way against the right players at this stage of a tourney. I have got to know the players well and know the ones that will pass if they miss a flop. Shoving was another option, but I honestly felt it was an Ace x raise and felt they would call. My intention was to shove on a non AK board.

As for Leading the flop, I do this alot and show nothing. I get paid when I hit.

Anyway, they had Kd 7d . Flop 9d Td Jd

lol Kev, and what do they have if the Qd hits?


Damn ur quick at deleting !

deleting ... what deleting ;)

sorry but this part of your post confuses me. You shove any flop with no AK, right? Therefore you don't get paid if you hit as it a classic stop and go. Your read said he had an Ace...so how will you get paid if the ace doesn't hit?


I don't like the line you take at all here. I used to do the old stop and go a lot myself and there are some things to be said for it but to flat call a preflop raise and then lead out when you hit a monster is not something that can be the best play overall. ..then again..maybe it works because it's unconventional...I dunno..don't like it myself as you ussually won't take the others guys entire stack (which is what you need at this stage because you're very short)

Ok.

Boldie, what I meant about cold calling people's raises and betting out - I was referring to all the way through the comp - most players there know I will do this and take down many pots uncontested - just because I lead out is no indication that I have hit the flop and most of the regs know this - hense when I do hit, I am not beleived and get paid.

I understand why this play is not liked because of being short. BUT with the structure, at this point (ie just before the FT) Almost EVERYONE is short (I think Av = 10xBB approx). This is the point in the tourney where it gets crapshooty and you need to get chips to take to the final. Suprisingly enough, once on the FT there is quite a bit of play.

Hindsite, a fold preflop is best and on witht he next hand - trouble is I cant resist trying to win these pots.

If the flop is  9s Ts Js  do you still bet 6K, shove, or check-fold?

Good question.

I dont know tbh without seeing their reaction to the flop.

but you have to shove, no?

I thought this one was going to be  Qc Js v  9d 3d on a  Qd Jd Th flop....  ;whistle;

Fair point well made but so bad it probably works!

Which is it?

flop  6d 7d Kd

oppo has  Ad 2d

juts looked at the rest of the post

way way way off the mark

What do you mean?

when you say you are drawing totally dead do you mean you cannot win the pot outright?

i reckon flop was  7d 6d Ad and your opponent had  Ad Jd

New Deck Please lol

that was my point - you were saying no one would ever guess which lead me to think that maybe something unusual happened like their being a dirty deck :)

I know matt - that would of been my guess as well tbh

If lots of the regulars know you do this with nothing, how are you hoping to get a pass when you shove a none A or K flop?

Because they know I do it with both a hand and no hand - its VERY hard to call off all your chips with Ace high.

So why lead when you flop a flush?

To Induce the shove. ie why would he lead if he has the flush?

It is easier to be the agressor with no hand than to call with no hand - no?

I could check and let them bet again.

I thought they were going to pass?

Who said that?

Stop being an arse James lol

You called because the original plan was to lead the flop and make him pass, now you lead the flop to make him shove?

NO
FFS

Origional plan was to CALL the raise and SHOVE on a non AK board.

Leading out when I have hit was to induce the SHOVE from THEM!

I forgot that you need to bet to induce a shove when you are playing this deep

Player dependent and against me at that place - yes.

But its also very likely, a fish will call off his stack if he was the inital raiser. They cant lay down AK/AQ with a J 10 10 suited board for example.

See it on the internet and in casino's all the time.

True

I never said it is the correct way, its just the correct way as I saw it on that occasion/against that player/in that club/at that time.

Thats all that matters mate, making the correct play win or loose  :)up

True - live poker isnt just about the maths - there is alot more to it