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Title: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: M3boy on March 27, 2008, 10:14:26 AM
At this level, 3 bet preflop is more often than not AA/KK

So, if holding QQ and below and you get 3 bet, are you calling the 3 bet for set purposes only?

And dumping QQ if no set value?

This is my line - what do you think?


Title: Re: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: Graham C on March 27, 2008, 11:33:44 AM
I agree, people rarely do it with less than KK, very occasionally AK, but generally I agree with your approach.  If for some reason it's a min 3 bet, I'd call with QQ.


Title: Re: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: Longy on March 27, 2008, 01:18:05 PM
I would imagine its player dependent at almost any level. My default is to flat call mainly for value as if i 4bet, im only going to get aa and kk generally look me up. After that we play poker and reassess given the texture and action on the flop.


Title: Re: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: LuckyLloyd on March 27, 2008, 01:45:55 PM
If it's an unknown then yes, assuming that a 3 - bet is QQ+ is good. That said, you'll get guys who are more likely to 3 - bet call 55 and slowplay KK and AA. You need to take note the minute someone does something silly and then play them differently.


Title: Re: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: Sunday8pm on March 27, 2008, 02:40:12 PM
90% of the time a 3 bet at 50nl on ipoker is not AA or KK.

I know this as i play with you nearly everyday and my 3 bet range is signifcantly wider than AA and KK and so are a lot of the regulars there.

I wouldnt 4 bet pre with QQ mostly depending on stack sizes, but im not check folding a T72 flop everytime...


Title: Re: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: M3boy on March 27, 2008, 03:33:14 PM
Thnaks for the replies.

Asked because fairly new at this level and this week I have had QQ run into AA/KK 5 times - all where I have been 3 bet preflop.


Title: Re: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: LuckyLloyd on March 27, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
Thnaks for the replies.

Asked because fairly new at this level and this week I have had QQ run into AA/KK 5 times - all where I have been 3 bet preflop.

You're running bad by the sounds of things.


Title: Re: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: M3boy on March 27, 2008, 05:24:13 PM
OK Cheers.

Was running solid at 6BB/100 on 5 tables (over 6000 hands).

I guess swings are bigger the tighter style you play as the variance takes longer to even out.


Title: Re: Being 3 bet preflop at 50NL
Post by: AlexMartin on March 28, 2008, 04:07:39 AM
4betting QQ lets them play their range pretty much perfectly if they have a clue. Call, reevaluate flop (c/ring a tonne oop).