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Title: Passive? thoughts?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on April 04, 2008, 02:03:02 AM
No read on player other than he's been at table for a full round and this is first action he has taken?
Trapping to get it in on a flop with no over card or should we be 3-betting pre?

PokerStars Game #16467425151: Tournament #82580342, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2008/04/03 - 20:43:40 (ET)
Table '82580342 35' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Gamst (6780 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero13203 in chips)
Seat 4: ascentrian (6242 in chips)
Seat 5: flashgs (5275 in chips)
Seat 6: Davie327 (11367 in chips)
Seat 7: markc75 (5820 in chips)
Seat 8: player9ball (9027 in chips)
Seat 9: JRBRASIL111 (15375 in chips)
Gamst: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts the ante 25
ascentrian: posts the ante 25
flashgs: posts the ante 25
Davie327: posts the ante 25
markc75: posts the ante 25
player9ball: posts the ante 25
JRBRASIL111: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 150
ascentrian: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero: Qd Qs
flashgs: folds
Davie327: folds
markc75: folds
player9ball: raises 627 to 927
JRBRASIL111: folds
Gamst: folds
Hero: calls 777
ascentrian: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h Ad 2d]
Hero: checks
player9ball: bets 1200
Hero: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [2h Ad 2d] [Jh]
Hero: checks
player9ball: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h Ad 2d Jh] [Jd]
Hero: checks
player9ball: bets 1200
Hero: calls 1200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
player9ball: shows [Ks As] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero: shows Qd Qs
player9ball collected 7154 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7154 | Rake 0
Board [2h Ad 2d Jh Jd]
Seat 1: Gamst (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hero (small blind) mucked
Seat 4: ascentrian (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: flashgs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Davie327 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: markc75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: player9ball showed [Ks As] and won (7154) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 9: JRBRASIL111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: Passive? thoughts?
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on April 04, 2008, 02:04:56 AM
Reraise pre... if your gna play it weak then pass flop.


Title: Re: Passive? thoughts?
Post by: Longy on April 04, 2008, 02:50:47 AM
3bet pre especially as you have no read on your oppo.

As played, I think post flop is fine.


Title: Re: Passive? thoughts?
Post by: MANTIS01 on April 04, 2008, 02:09:02 PM
Why have you called pre-flop Glasgow? It is because you're trapping/want to see what the flop brings right? The flop is not the one you wanted to see after playing the hand this way so I don't know how you can continue c-calling bets now. The A has ruined your strat but you continue with it anyway.


Title: Re: Passive? thoughts?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on April 04, 2008, 02:47:11 PM
The hand wasn't mine it was one a mate played out, I think it was a mistake not 3 betting pre tbh.  I think he's trap calling and hoping to get it in the middle on a board without any overs.  I'm not for slow playing my QQ at any point its inviting trouble if the board comes A high.


Title: Re: Passive? thoughts?
Post by: MANTIS01 on April 04, 2008, 03:27:18 PM
Posted by: GlasgowBandit
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I think he's trap calling and hoping to get it in the middle on a board without any overs.

This is what I'm talking about. If he goes to the flop with this strat then there is a need for discipline when things don't work out imo. C-calling after the A drops makes his original strat a rather pointless one.


Title: Re: Passive? thoughts?
Post by: mondatoo on April 04, 2008, 04:29:20 PM
Personnally i never slow play qq to prevent getting outdrawing to a weak ace or even a k.Definite 3 bet and get all the chips in most times.