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Just seen this on the net

"Model and actress Abi Titmuss is swapping posing for poker next month in an unexpected career move.
No longer content with simply raising the pulse of the average UK male or treading the boards, Abi is set to raise the stakes in Europe's biggest annual poker event for women - the Ladbrokespoker.com European Ladies Championship (ELC) on 3rd and 4th of May 2008.
Excited about taking part in the tournament, Abi Titmuss said: "I've been playing quite a bit of poker over the past few months and enjoy being a woman playing in what is predominately seen as a man's game. The fact that women-only tournaments like the Ladbrokes European Ladies Championship have been so successful proves that times are changing. I'm delighted to be involved but I think the prize money is safe!"

Sigh.
 ;popcorn;

its all good ...

from now on, everyone whe plays in one of these must flash boobs and gusset in the press ....

Does she bowl a bit of off spin too ?

Do you reckon someone would buy me in if I flashed my tits?

What is it about this forum today??? Is no one speaking in English? Tikay with donkeys and horses (thanks to Redsimon for the PM abut what Horse is!) and now Ralph obv not talking about cricket.....but I'm not sure what?

Come on people - I know I'm whooshed often but this is ridiculous! :D ;yellowcard;

Fred Titmus, the Middlesex and England Off Spin bowler. Famed for missing three toes on one foot. And still bowling

His career slightly preceeded that of the Middlesex spin twins Embury and Edmonds but at the tail end of fred's career, Middlesex fielded all three for the formidable bowling attack of

Wayne Daniel
Vincent Van der Bijl
John Emburey
Phil Edmonds
Fred Titmus

Wayne was LAG, Vincent Tight , Embers Tight Passive, Edmonds LAG and Fred toeless

Seriously, people, I'd very much like your comments on Ladbrokes using Abi Titmuss to promote a Ladies' Poker competition.

Personally, I think the Ladbrokes Ladies comp (as played by Jen, yourself and other leading ladies players) does not need the gimmick of a "professional celeb" with no link to poker to promote it

I'd say the same if it was Jordan (who promotes a bingo site) or a Chippendale. Nothing against Abi, but if Ladbrokes were confident that the event can stand in its own right, then I don't think they'd be promoting in this way.

Err....as Ladbrokes sponsor part of the blonde Forum, we wish them well with this "creative" idea.

My personal view? I think the backlash will outweigh the "positives". Sorry, I just do. But I hope it goes well, & wish them every success.

poker sites have been using t**s to promote their sites for years, just look at the pokerstars line up for the last 5 years or so...........

;whistle;

He said what I thought.

Odd choice IMO. If they want to highlight women's poker with a view to bringing women into the game, I would use a celebrity who is more of a 'girl's girl' (i.e. someone women like) to promote the event.  Abi Titmuss more one for the lads I would have thought.

Bev, regardless of what people think, good women poker players will play these events because of the added value and edge that they have, the fact that the hosts use some old trollop to promote it, thus degrading ALL female poker players will not put many off ... and thats a damn shame, If top female poker players made a stand against this crap, the organisers may think twice about doing it.

Well if you ladies are in favour of, and want ladies poker tourneys with added sponsor's money that's what you can expect.

Meanwhile what do you think about Shane Warne's deal ?

Well I can't imagine it's to atrract women players!It's not working for me.

Great name awareness for Ladbrokes within the male population, added value for the women that play I suppose.

Pretty sure the thinking behind it was not to attract women to the game surely? :dontask:

I must just add, & it's well known, backed by the facts, that I'm a big supporter - & Shareholder - of Ladbrokes.

But gimmicky female poker players - sorry. We have plenty of superb lady players, & they must be well hacked off at this development.

'seriously', 'Abi', and 'poker' in the same sentence?  I'm on life tilt for the rest of the day. 

Some extra dead money for all of you playing you should be pleased?

it's her fault I can't have my nice long blonde hair any more.  after two blokes in one week said I reminded them of Abi Titmuss it was chopped off and dyed brown within days.

hmmm, maybe they weren't talking about my looks after all.......

I see it more as adding value to the game, the good players will out eventually and her sponsorship just adds more money to the prize pool doesn't it? I was very anti womens only games but I'm beininning to see the value in them...

don't think you'd get a celebrity who is more of a girl's girl than Abi    ;)

I, too, Tikay, as an occasionally sponsored by Laddies player, have to tread carefully.  I have to say, when I heard the announcement, my heart sank.  I was, at the time, vacuuming the stairs (my day job), and the dog wasn't sure what had hit him when I dropped the Dyson.

I agree with all comments and would add:  I have been defending Ladies Only tournaments (particularly the ELC as I like the format) for 2 years.  I truly believe they give women who would not normally join in live poker a chance to be comfortable in that arena and to wet their toes with a friendly but competitive bunch.  However, the other side of the coin is that Laddies must do their bit to encourage women, and using Abi simply doesn't do that.  I'm sure she's a very nice woman and if she can play poker of course she should be in the competition, but the boys get plenty of tits and ass already, shouldn't Laddies be giving the girls a bit of respect and encouragement?  

One suspects that Laddies were more interested in blanket coverage for the site than women's poker with this decision.

True, we've got Kev and TightEnd. Fact.

California State Law has just been passed which makes womens only comps illegal in that state.

Im neither for or against such comps but im sure many other states in the US will follow suit.

Saying that Nevada does ignore everyone else and does what it wants to do itself anyway.

people saying added value there is a chance shes good you know.

Next, John Leslie used to promote the EPT to Television X viewers

Is this why TJ got the SkyPoker job?  Sex sells I guess... :dontask:

It's an offence to women poker players!

But IMO so are Ladies only comps, but im not starting this one up again!

When I saw Leilani a while back she was off to the states, so guess they wanted to line someone else up to fill he place. One saving grace is that it isn't Danni Wag-Lloyd.
This is obviously going to do nothing to attract ladies to the game, but no doubt will attract more blokes to watch the show and will make the press which i guess it is all about.

I think you just dropped something.......

did she ask you for your autograph?

No, she was too busy reading a David Icke book.   :o

Enjoy.
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/Indestructable_photos/Abi.jpg)

lol - you don't see pics of sponsored male celebs lying across tables like that!

First time i have ever seen a pic of titmus with her legs shut ... good find !!

She is fit tho!

and fully clothed too!  I think it's been photoshopped.

presumably the flop lags her hole cards?

FACT

Sigh.  Should have known better.  Back to the vacuuming.

It's not a good idea Bev (Abi being signed up by Ladbrokes, not you going back to the vacuuming).

i don't know what she has done of late. Maybe she is trying to reinvent her image?

at last, a woman who knows her place                ;scarymoment;

Apparently she is bringing out a new book, or rather a diary.

Should be an interesting read.....hope there's pictures!

It's a horrible PR move if they are truly interested in bringing more women into the game so I'm guessing the women aren't their target.  Some moron in a suit obviously being paid far too much to think straight.  Pity, because they're missing out on many a female player because of stunts like this.     

You probably just haven't heard from her for a while because she knows it's rude to talk with your mouth full.

Seriously..what the hell is Ladbrokes thinking?..a "Z" list celebrity who is actually only known for making and promoting porn. Sure it's an extra grand or so in the prizepool but it really only make a joke of the competition..of which many people were cynical already. How can the excuse "Women are uncomfortable playing in a male dominated environment and that's why the ELC is a good idea" still be used to justify this comp when Laddies are now essentially saying "Be eye candy ladies, that's what poker needs. That's the only reason people will ever watch women only poker..to look at a cheap slapper's tits".


It's a joke and Ladbrokes should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for hoaring the ELC out like this.

Who Bev?

you put on a tourney where having tits is the main qualification you are going to get people playing who are famous for getting their baps out, sad fact but true. A good woman player can't even get a seat into this because they already have players like abi in there (although a good woman player who is easy on the eye would stand a chance obviously). Its a very poor do in my eyes as there are far more worthy players on blonde who are actually poker players, just because some of them have been slapped a bit with the ugly stick shouldn't stop them playing in this (and no I am not saying all the women on blonde are pigs- thats the inference ladbrokes have given by putting in a z list celeb famouse for getting her norks out). since when have looks been important in poker?? hell if kevs allowed to play surely  everyone should be allowed to ;)  

Must be a full moon tonight because I actually agree with Boldie for a change.   :)up :goodpost:

I just hope it doesn't bugger up my chances of a sponsorship deal from Laddies :)

definitely.  I agree with Boldie and Ariston!

wanna name names Russ ?    ;whistle;

He named me :D

You'd definitely get someone to buy you a drink... ;hide;

To quote Jonathan Ross, 'Abi Titmuss, a girl that's been tied to more bedposts than David Blunkett's dog...'

i can imagine when her agent approached her mentioning women on tv and poker and she just said as long as she's good looking why not

rotflmfao

lol

i can't see who it is meant to be attracting really- it is going to alienate the women and most men I know don't really rate her. Leliani- class bit of totty and obvious wag style where abi is more or the toothless one eyed moonlighting dinner lady type imo. I dont think she would turn that many heads in most clubs and is only famous for having a really poor quality home made video- at least paris hilton would give you a raise and make you want to go allin

Yes, I've been wondering if this is a one off, or whether they have an array of cunning stunts lined up to help promote this tournament...




...I'll get me coat...

 rotflmfao.......someone been switching your letter keys around?

Geo

She might be a really nice lady (now)?   :dontask:

yep and thats why she has got the job of course

Glad you agree. Knew you would come round eventually.  :D

lol

i have never played a womens comp but would love to play this...i wont get the chance i fear. its hard unless you are well known to get into these comps..im hoping i will get my chance one day,lol

i would hope im not looked at as having been slapped a bit though ;)

im not getting drawn into who has been slapped a little or who has hit every branch on the way down from the ugly tree. I'm sure you will get your chance in one of these comps though fran

The blonde bird in the blonde poker vertical banner on this page looks a bit Abi Titmussesque. FACT

blonde bird in blonde poker banner- it would be rude not too........abi titmus- not with yours mate

curious to know what makes you think she isnt a nice person all the way along?

Abi sex vid>Paris = FACT, so ive been told.

True, you never know what you might catch.

possibly the fact she was an attention seeking whore who sold her story to loads of papers for having threesomes with a z list celebrity gaining notoriety. Maybe it was the copius ammounts of drugs she took while working as a nurse? maybe it was all the stories of woe is me I just want a normal life and oh btw I've got a new calender out with my baps out. sure she's a lovely girl who wouldn't do anything for a bit of fame.

abi sex vid nowhere on the same scale as paris sex video= fact im telling you as I have researched both thouroughly ;)

Fran they are running sats every day on Laddies...I have donated very kindly to the pot :-)

PS If you decide to play I can give you some info on who plays under what name etc ;-)

As to Bevs question, I too think it is well out of order for Laddies to sponser Abi just coz she is a "celeb" and I am confused as to why they would do this  :dontask:

link to the titmuss porno please

available on so many sites. Try megarotic and search abi and then paris and tell me im wrong. If not I think its on pornhub, redtube and all the usual ones.

yes im gonna play some suzanne thanks

i just realised what the buy in is..if id known sooner i would have tried to buy in but their are no seats left now except sats

:o

as if you dont have enough time on your hands to find it yourself

Funnily enough, one of my colleagues suggested to me today that we should get Abi to play in a GUKPT. My response was that we would be getting Ladbrokes' sloppy seconds.

But seriously, I don't see why sponsoring a celeb is out of order? Its about publicity and good or bad, it has worked. It was in some of the national papers today and hey, this thread is already 6 pages long. Sponsoring a non-celeb player would not have got them nearly the same exposure. Right or wrong, that is FACT.

loads or reasons why abis is better, only one issue 'someone i know' had with it! Cant say on here tho!

paris = sit there and take it, LAZY!

is that what they call it know?

i dont think its out of order just gripes me that i grind it out week in week out and dont get a chance to play comps like these..i make a decent amount out of live tourneys and would like a chance to play one like this..its not like im that bad,lol

i play alot of the comps and buy myself into all of them..for her to just be put in when she might not even be an ok player is a little insulting to the good women players(which im not saying i am)

I will look out my little black book...PM on the way ;-

Err, its kind of obvious why I was quoting - its in my reply...its because I was wondering why it should be out of order for Ladbrokes to sponsor someone simply because they are a celeb. I guess I could have removed the rest of the quotes and left only the relevant part, but I was too lazy to do that.

i removed that other post after a re read,sorry

im on medication makes me not think before i type ;)

i have reposted above mr jack

i agree with fran tbh, happens with blokes aswell. I think results do the talking though fran, keep your head down and making the money you can you would take anyday rather than one app on t.v and a losing player. Chip Reece Style, if it was the best women in the uk you would obv get a spot, but as we all know it doesnt work like that.

EXACTLY!!!

I dont play live that much and no way I could afford to pay £1k so I go the sat route. To play in a comp like this would be a dream for me and for someone to get a buyin just coz she flops her bits out is an insult!!

suzanne i have bought into a 1k tourney..but i still couldnt get in without winning a sat...same as alot of regular tournament women players

one day i will,lol

Let's face it though Fran, you have more chance of playing it than I do.

you would look better than me on tv though tom :kiss:

OK, no problem. Did think it was a bit weird.

You've gotta be great or famous, SIMPLE.

Why would they wanna put an OK player in? Doesnt make any sense to a poker room. They have bought Abi in and look at the publicity its raised on this forum alone and im sure other fora aswell.....let alone magzines etc.

If i was a woman in the comp, id be loving the fact she is in because its dead money.

It makes perfect business sense, they are there to attarct more players to tourney/site and that is what they do!

Sigh ... she isnt getting bought in because she gets her tits out ... she is getting bought in (and paid a hefty fee no doubt) because of all the publicity she is bringing .... no offence but as good a player as Fran, Suzanne, and hundreds of other female players are, putting them into the comp would be burning money as no national newspaper is going to devote any column inches to you and no internet forum would have a 10 page thread about it ...

If you women boycotted these events and stood by your principals, sites would have to rethink their marketing strategies .... but no, it doesnt matter what they do, you all have a bitch about it but try as hard as you can to get in anyway.

Simple answer ... BAN all single sex exclusive comps, problem solved. 

But I am only a single sex....

FYP

its deja vu for me again as I had this battle last year but just scrap them, comps like these hardly help women get into poker when they are a 1000 pound buy in (or whatever they are)!

Pisses me off big time and the only debate i really wont give in on!

lol

i never asked to be bought in..i would do that myself mr

I don't really have a problem with women only comps, but I think they would be better if they were topless women only comps.


...I'l get me coat...

I know, my original debate started abot the blusq added seat for a ladies comp last year but as I have said in this thread, its a wise business move on blusq to be involved with them.

I have a problem with them because I cant quite get why women need a sort of safehouse tournament and cant mix with the men. I nevcer had any novice tournaments in a casino when i first started, i just got stuck in and had to go up against  the guys whod been playing 20-30 years. They are just made for TV tounraments which serve no real purpose in the development of bringing women into the game.

TOPLESS womens tourneys tho.....maybe!
 

so did i and ive never played a womens comp either

im just saying if it is a womens comp surely women who can buy in should be able to..only a few seats were saved for direct buy in and they went quickly so im told.

Im just venting fran, and certainly not at you or anyone on here.

They just piss me off so much, as I said earlier, IMO women only comps are far more offensive to women poker players in the grand scheme of things than addding eye candy to one.

Im going to run a men only blonde comp.

only way i can stop Laxie from winning ;)

Please do, make it a regular thing, then hear the moans that come in.

As for Abi... Well i hope Blonde norkage cameras are gonna be there covering!

PS... Paris Vid > Abi Vid.

STFU!

no frikking way!

I played in a womans tour last year Fran and I have to admit it was great fun. I won my seats in sats so it didnt cost much and it was great meeting up with the ladies I played online and also playing live in games that I would normally never consider. These games were £100 buyin and to a small stake internet player were a bit out of my league.

It DID get my butt away from the PC and gave me the taste for live poker and I now try to make as many local live games as I can (babysitter permitting) so in THAT sense a womans only game has acheived what it set out to do.

QFMFT

But again, u werent new to the game of poker itself.

They dont put these tourneys on to get you to play live, all they care about is getting you on their site/promoting their site.

As jon has said, its of their interest that they added a seat to that comp last year, and it would make sense for them to have a "Abi" equivalent.

ariston linked you by PM then i take it...? ;)

I think we've got the answer now - looks like a masterstroke by Laddies - we've been talking about them all night :)

Poker has a history of being largely single sex. The vast majority of regular home games tend to be men only affairs, boys nights in, a way of getting away from the wife for a few hours every week. For most people playing cards is a pastime, a game, a way to enjoy oneself. It shouldn't be an arena for human rights/equality issues. For those women out there who like the idea of getting away from the men for an evening, I'm sure women only comps serve a purpose. For those women who don't like it, well they don't have to play. As for men who don't like it, as I said, its only a game of cards, get something better to worry about.

Ladbrokes comp is a TV comp and as has already been said on this thread by others, its purpose is to advertise Ladbrokes not to help promote womens poker. Ladbrokes target audience is men, so its not that hard to work out why they are doing it and why they are enlisting someone like Titmuss to promote it. The thing about her is that she polarises opinion - some men fancy her, others are disgusted by her, but either way she gets column inches (phnarr phnarr).

i dont really feel either way about womens comps..ive just never played one

my only gripe is with women that can buy in to these comps but cant play because they are not famous or "great" dont get the chance unless they win a sat

bed time i wish i never posted,lol

but when do we cripples get our exclusive comps

Yeh but in truth, all it makes me do is be even less inclined to play on their sites.

More Publicity? - Yes no doubt
Negative impact on site? - IMO definately.

All they are going to do is attract some 18 yr old boys to play in the weekly cheapo tounrey publicised as "play with Abi" or the like and take a dollar rake off them.

HArdly gonna attract the big rakers.

In the case of you...when you push yourself to and from a foreign casino! ;)

I presume that it's the famous and the great that will get people watching on TV and give Laddies the exposure they want though.  If the tournament was just a regular tournament that anyone (in this case, anyone with the right bits) could buy in to it wouldn't necessarily serve its purpose.  Plenty more games out there for everyone to play (and personally I find women much more difficult to play against that men).

Great post,

but put on a mens only tourney and watch how much negative publicity that would create, OUTSIDE of just the poker media.

If there was a Ladbrokes poker flame and it went on a world tour before each event, I don't think there'd be many protestors lining the road. Most people are not going to think about it too much and I doubt they're gonna lose many players as a result of people seeing them in a negative light.

'tis true.  Many a time I've been told I can't attend a home game because it's 'boys only' and nothing wrong with that at all.

Yep, same for us blokes when you have your anne summers parties :D

Many poker tournaments end up being men only by default, so there's no need to put one on. Do a Chippendale men only poker tournament and put it on TV and I'm sure it would get a few viewers though...

ok jon, i will let the men only one go but seriously now,

womens topless poker.....? (add as many GUKPT seats as you want!)

KP would watch if it were Sheep only..

Sigh

I don't think any media outside the poker media would be interested or even pick up on it tbh. I don't really understand the 'there should be no single sex games' thing.  We're talking about a handful of competitions a year compared to thousands that anyone can enter.  And before anyone says it, no, I wouldn't give a hoot if there were three or four tournaments a year that were 'men only' if there was a demand for them - not as if I can't find a game elsewhere.

We have our own specialist channel for that here in wales aready.

Its basically just reruns of 1 man and his dog! Does the job tho!

What if they had all been "slipped by the ugly stick"?  rotflmfao

tell you what kev, next time I host one you can come along to model the posing pouches if you like.  In return I'll come and fetch the drinks and nibbles for your boys game :)

Thats why they would beon telly, so you could imagine slipping them the ugly stick!

lol, its probably already been done. In the US there used to be a poker magazine (it may even still exist) called Top Pair. Have a guess what the majority of the content was about.

if kev cant make it i can stand/sit in

Give the UK a year or 2 to catch up.....and we will talk again.

http://www.samaritans.org/

hehe.  From pokermediagroup.com:

"TopPair Magazine is for the discerning poker player who wants a little sizzle along with their strategy. Imagine Poker Digest meets Maxim meets Consumer Reports. All the poker tips and techniques you need, with all the eye candy that you crave. It also includes guides to help navigate the multitude of on-line sites, products and peripherals that exist in the poker market place."

then.........

"TopPair Magazine is about diversity, ethics, gender issues and the human side of the game......" ;D

where can i buy the dvd?

Hahahaha sorry I just spotted the misspell LOL

Must have been a Freudian slap.

This is the best LeKnave and I could come up with:

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4139/titmusscc2.jpg)

PMFSL, seriosuly P.O.T.Y!

wow - is that Abi in that pic?  Even I nearly fancy her there!

Very good  ;D

Or wishful thinking?

Work of genius i am in pain  rotflmfao

rotflmfao...genius!

Jon Raab knows the score.

Why is it we have to have the same discussion every time someone gets a sponsorship deal because of who they are or how they look rather their poker skills. Getting sponsorship/put into events is not a reward for being good at poker, an altruistic act on the part of a generous benefactor - it's about getting publicity. Stories in the mainstream press are what it's all about. 'Random local woman player with track record of moderate success' ain't going to cut the mustard when it comes to generating publicity.

And the Paris Hilton sex tape is such a joyless, unerotic affair that it's not difficult to be better than it, and Abi's only just manages it, on account of the fact she's sexier than Paris generally and not anything she does in the video (in which she mostly looks bored). All celebrity sex tapes are rubbish, actually - I can't think of a good one. Meg White's out of the White Stripes actually looked as if she was enjoying herself in hers, which was a plus point.

Michelle Orpe got sponsored too, almost as bad tbh in terms of poker skills but no one says owt about that?

At least she's played poker before.

Yep abs class!  ;applause;

Written a few years ago but still relevent to this thread.

Caps, Baps and Cigars 

Looking through any poker publication you will come across adverts for online poker rooms. These take many forms and any potential player can use these adverts to determine what type of poker room you are potentially joining. Here is my rundown of what to look out for...

Players in cowboy hats in smoky card rooms, scantily clad girls in a 'baps out' pose and models sitting around looking aimlessly at a royal flush in hearts. These are all perfect examples of marketing in poker cliches. You should avoid these rooms as it is likely they have a marketing team rather than poker people running their poker business.

Ask yourself this. When did you last sit down at a poker table and look across at your opponent to find him snarling, wearing a cowboy hat with a cigar the size of a cricket bat?

The only time that has happened to me I was playing in Texas and even the barmaids had Stetsons and smoked cigars. You would imagine from this type of advert that these card rooms are full of cigar smoking, rough looking men just waiting to take your loot or force you into a shootout at dawn.

The 'baps out' brigade are another story, you can almost see the marketing meeting.

'Ok, most of our players are men between 18 and 35, what do men in this age bracket find interesting?'

'Breasts?'

'Perfect, Do me a couple of ads with blonde models in an alluring pose... sorted'

These adverts are the worst kind, what message are these rooms trying to portray? It is likely that these rooms don't really have much to offer and have decided to rely on the 'sex sells' strategy. Well call me old fashioned but I would rather see what poker features and tournaments these rooms have, not how many girls they can get on one page. To be honest it is very short sighted, poker is freely available now and the percentage of female players has risen sharply in the last year, these new players are not going to be interested in this type of marketing.

Real poker firms have tried to get away from images like this to promote poker in a more serious, acceptable light. The game is played and enjoyed by regular guys like you and me. In some cases online poker rooms are run by poker people but unfortunately many are run by marketing teams, most of whom have never played poker, sitting in offices wearing cowboy hats and puffing on huge cigars surrounded by semi naked girls because that is what they think poker is about... and it shows.

least michelle has worked in the poker industry for a few years and knows how to play the game/would have a chance of winning her table.

sextape war andrew? i counter your argument on none of them being good with elle mcphersons sister and of course tommi and pammy (pammi really isnt my cup of tea but you cant help admitting she is ahem talented).

I've always found Pamela Anderson extremely sexless - too much like a plastic doll. I've not seen Elle McPherson's sister but the bloodline has good form so I shall undertake the necessary research and review the evidence.

i thought the pammi one was decent. It just makes them better knowing that you shouldnt really be watching them. imo. btw the paris hilton and jordon ones were absolute garbage.

You met Laz? Add the cowboy hat and you're there.

Jordan's was the worst sex tape ever.

Worse than Max Moseley's?

Jordan leaked her own sex tape, how low can you get lol.

At least Abi is the only one I have seen who likes other women :) *sings one finger a thumb.....*

rotflmfao

No, I have a Nazi sex fetish so found his especially good.

Other than Pam Anderson they all leaked their own sex-tape.

I was young and needed the money........

imogen from big brother didnt leak hers- she was still stuck in the house when that one came out. poor quality but she looked quite usefull. kin v v bad quaatie out of home and away was one of the first ever released, again very poor qualit but she looked quite keen.

keeley hazell was the most disapointing one for me- I expected so much more out of her.

Ladies if you are going to do a sex tape then release it/leak it to get yourself publicity at least try and put in a gold medal performance. worst one ever is geena lee nolin- awful.

maybe this is probably best going on another thread though- best home sex tapes by the pervs of blonde. Let abi have her 5 mins of fame and make an arse of herself in her heat. I bet chilli and jenn etc are hoping she is in their heat as they will obviously eat her alive

 ;applause; ;whistle;

*awaits that tape*

Can't they combine the Full Tilt ads (atmospheric, black and white, known faces, CLOTHES) with the Dove advert (real women)?  I'd love to see that.

Who would you have if they wanted a 'celeb' to raise media interest?

One I thought of that at least is known for her brains is Carol Vorderman.

lol..you'd like to seea naked Doyle Brunson flog soap in black and white?

Fairly decent shout Rod.

Are there any celeb females who actually play poker on a reg basis?

Kara Scott (gorgeous)?

TJ will probably kill me for this but she's not really a proper celeb though..she is well known in the poker community as a host but not a celeb, surely?

I like the Carol Volderman idea..and I'm thinking NAS approves of intelli-norkage.

Moira Stewart would also be good.

NAS def approves of carol

;yellowcard;  there's a line Boldie, you're nearly crossing it.

what's wrong with Moira?

As she is a kick boxer I would say nothing against Kara Scott, but I would have preferred Catherine Tate.  Loses a pot, am i boverred? :D

Watching the new Doctor Who last week I was struck (figuratively) by the size of Catherine Tate's bosom. I never realised she was so top-heavy.

Fiona Bruce?

Now we're talking!

If it were up to me and I had to choose a celeb that would attract women into the game I'd choose someone women could relate to, with the likeability factor.  Someone like Tess Daly maybe?

yep, she has big tits.

Doesn't she host one of those awful shitty reality things where she pretends to be hapyp and shouty all the time?...I shall have to go to the whinge thread now.

So does Abby, and she aims to please both sexes

....which is why abi's sex vid is better than paris' ;)

Exactly KP

does she have a sex tape?

any women on blonde have a tape.   Release sex tape ----> annouce interest in poker ------> loads of freerolls ------> profit -------> celebrity status. (imo)

I forgot about Sophie Howard, I am sure she would be good at poker.   ;whistle;

Abi Titmuss will bring Ladbrokes a lot of short-term publicity, but in the long-run I don't believe it reflects well on any company, nor poker as a whole, to promote such a classless, promiscuous tart.

dont ya just hate slappers

Erm pammy released hers.

if it wasn't for slappers ,i'd get no action at all.

But she said it was stolen from her house?  :dontask:

Why is there no rusah for my sex tape................although the quality not good,it's a bit grainy.

But Man this mother's got some style.

rotflmfao..word.

as likely to attract woman onto the game as it is to attract them to poker!

the ELC is an excellent stand alone product     yet marketeers want general  publicity, rather than targetted.tis the way of the    15 second  attention span world.

Its creating lots of debate and controversy so I reckon the PR wheel is doing its job.......

Yep and in the press today, well at least in the Star on Sunday.  :D

Great debate. And the fact this thread's rumbling on and on (and I noticed picking up a few extra satellite entires for the ELC along the way) is great for Ladbrokes. As is the national press coverage, glossy women's magazines, etc, etc.
How women are used in poker is much wider than just poor old Abi. Michelle Orpe, Kara Scott, Liv Boaree have all been getting lots of coverage recently and this isn't just for their achievements in poker. Liv has had about three or four front covers over the past couple of months and this is because she's an attractive woman (who plays a bit of poker). That's why Absolute Poker signed her up and she's already paid them back in coverage for their initial investment. As has Abi.
Colch Kev makes a great point - I don't really agree with the idea of single sex tourneys either, but while they exist, providing edge and value for the same established players year after year, is is too much to ask for Ladbrokes to try and make some brand awareness out of it?
PokerStars signed up Boris Becker to promote the Dortmund EPT. Was this for his poker skills? OK, he's proven in his specialised field, but surely, so is Abi. And whether you agree with what she did or not, or whether you think she's classless, is largely irrelevant to this debate. Remember that David Williams started his career making films that were much more questionable than Abi's.
My opinion:
Single sex tourneys - bad.
Abi Tittmuss being used to promote a single-sex tourney - couldn't care less.

An interesting & intriguing first Post Sir. Welcome to blonde.

I guess you'd argue that having girlies on the front page of Poker Mags helps sell them, too? ;)

It helps entice men to pick them up in the shop to have a look at them.

There are 8,000-odd blonde members and the ratio of men to women is 6.5:1 (don't know if that's representative of poker players in general, but I bet it isn't far off).

Sex sells I guess.

Very likely. I'm pretty sure "kidunknown" would have a view on that.

doesn't that particular magazine usually have male poker players on the cover though?

I'm sure he does ;).

I think you're right.  It sticks to well-known players, and as the majority of these are men...

Funnily enough, out of all the covers we've done, we've only had a few women on there and they've been the worst sellers. Our stock is Hellmuth and Negreanu - they always fly off the shelves. Perhaps it's because the women we've put on the cover are known for their poker first, but we've never had a celeb on the cover, and unless one goes on to win a major, major, tournament, we never would. Abi's going to have to do more than win the ELC to get her face on there :)

Her face... ;carlocitrone;

This certainly has turned into a long thread.  So if we are saying it is wrong for Laddies to use / buy in someone to the game does that then say that all sponsered players are going to be classed as the same. After all the sponsers are surly all hoping for the same result, publicity.   Exactly how many players are paying there own way in against sponsered players / sat winners? anyone know?.

I don't think anyone can really say if it's 'right' or 'wrong' - sex is used to sell everything, from soft-drinks to cars, and everything in-between.

The question is, how effective will it be.  We're talking about it on here - but we talk about all sorts of nonsense on here (where is boldie?).  Is it going to help Ladbrokes attract more players?

Is her inclusion an attempt to turn the event into more of a spectacle?  Is it a long-term campaign, and she's going to be the 'face' of Ladbrokes?  I don't she's going to attract many more women to poker - surely she's there to attract more men?

 

Would make a change for seeing her clam spread out on the front page of a magazine...though could be funny if it got angry.

I don't recall them putting norkage on the front cover too much. In fact, I think it's predominantly male poker players. This month's cover is cool.

hang on 8000 members on blonde men to woman ratio 6.5-1 meaning there are over 1000 female members on blonde?? according to the standardised norkage rating scale (meaning on average 1 in 10 women would be NAS approved- SNRS) that means over 100 ladies on blonde would get the official NAS stamp of approval.


any chance of a calander or something? could make a fortune and mean kev doesnt have to work so hard on getting numbers up in the blondepoker room.

just please dont put tighty or kev in a thong

Hey there Acidmouse. The reason that no one says owt about that is because you are completely wrong. My poker skills are far more advanced than Abi's. Of course they are, do you not have a TV? Think about it........I got to sit on a show with 8 different poker experts, 3 nights a week for 4 hours a night for 3 years asking any questions I wanted. I would have to be a complete and utter moron not to have picked up exceptionally good knowledge of the game. My game is actually very good. Of course I am no expert and I do not pretend to be. I am also not under any illusion at all as to how and why I got offered the sponsorship. But Purple are not stupid and the last thing they want to do is sponsor someone who doesn't know what they are doing. The reason Purple sponsored me (if you are interested) is because it is great marketing and publicity. There are not many blonde TV Presenters who can play poker. If I play in a game I generally get pictures taken of me and the TV company's usually want an interview. This is because I am different to the norm, there are many men playing poker so it's normal, they will talk to the big male players, but there are not many young woman so of course they want coverage of me, this is completely natural, the way of the world and why Purple Lounge have sponsored me. But there is no point having a sponsored player who is not in the game long enough for the camera man to adjust his flash and take a picture, so they also need someone who can hold there own and talk the talk. Both of which I can do. I don't have enough live experience yet to play at the levels I want to but this is happening with time....

I have also proved I can play the game:

I won an EPT qualifier at the Vic, 250 players and 10 tickets up for grabs, a lot of players were very complimentary of how I played.
I lasted 9 hours in the London EPT
I lasted 9 hours in the GUKPT
I made the Cash at the weekend in the Ladbrokes ELC

Also, I am a little interested to know how you know the level of my play as 1, I have not played any TV tables recently and 2, I have never played you. So how could you possibly know how good or bad I am!

On the thread:

I think you have to give Abi some credit because she is not taking this lightly, apparently she has been playing everyday for hours to try and learn the game and become good at it. Also I think it is wrong to say bad things about someone you don't know. All you know is how she is perceived in the press. I have never met her so I can't pass judgement, she may be a really horrible person who just wants to get her t**s out to make money, but she also might be a really nice person who once got her t**s out and is now trying something else with her career. I certainly don't blame her for excepting this oppotunity. Think about it.......would you? If someone approaches you and offers you an opportunity, you take it and then you do all you can to make it work. She seems to be doing this so I say good on her and lets offer some support instead of being mean.

As far as woman only tournaments are concerned.....who cares. Men are more whiny than woman are. There are plenty of tournaments to go around so I don't suppose it matters if there are a couple of woman only tournaments knocking about, and if you're that bothered about it why do you not make your own man tournaments, we won't mind. Plus, some woman find it really hard to play men and are really intimidated by men, so for those woman these tournaments are great.

Mich

Nice post.

mich your points would have merit apart from the fact one of those experts was tikay. how long did it take to forget what he taught you?

nope, I definitely can't think of another one ;D

Hey Mich - I like that Acid mouse assumed you can't play - lets hope that most men think that and use it to your advantage. In my experience it's a valuable misconception.  :)up

while we are on the subject on conception michelle.....

KP would like some help with some sheep

sigh, the sheep are great but not for offspring obv.

Thats where michelle comes in, with her looks and poker playing ability and my endless luckbox ways it would simply be the best looking poker player ever!

:D

This actually made me laugh so much i had to pause GTA.

This made me LOOOOOOL
Ariston , as if you would say no

What, come on, it proves that I can at least last a bit. I have only just started playing live and this is not bad at all, don't take the mick. I am very proud of my achievements to date. I've played some good poker and it can only get better from here right :)

Michelle, forget all those silly little tourneys, the true test is the blonde bash comp. By chance it's this weekend, get your name down and silence the critics.

Hi Michelle,

you said in your post that you're not playing at the levels you would like to yet, but have gone on to say that you played an EPT event and a GUKPT event.  Just interested to know what levels you aspire to if that is the case?

As for whether you/Abi should have taken the sponsorship - damn right you should.  I'd leap at it, but unfortunately have not been blessed in the looks department :(  I am getting my hair highlighted in a couple of days though, so you never know :D

Best of luck to you, and do come to the bash if you can!

Claire

ffs, don't put yourself down, it is an open secret that kin has a pin up photo of you on his wall, KP would have the same but is waiting for you to model a sheepskin jacket.

She did that for me ages ago.....

lol - I'm not putting myself down, I'm a realist is all!  Don't mind anyhow, at least I know that anything I win is down to my game luck rather than being offered something on a plate coz I've got a purdy face (although I'm not knocking those that get that opportunity).  why do I feel like whatever I write I'm digging a hole?!

Less than 0.1% of the female population are models - there are a lot of women having to be realistic....

When I was working on the vice squad the women of the night/day/afternoon delights who got more clients than the others tended to be the uglier onces. Men didn't feel intimidated apparently. UNless they wanted to be intimidated but that was extra..

thanks Trace - it's good to know there are opportunities out there if the poker goes tits up ;D  :)up

Bit like when I was on Lads Tenerife Tour '03!

I chose the ugliest lapdancer coz I thought she would be the dirtiest....I was right!

She needed a shower?

:dontask:

yes she needed to be showered with something!

thanks.  I think ;D

So does anyone know how did Abi do?
 :dontask:

how or WHO ?

Id be willing to be the WHO!

She lasted a few hours apparently.  Played a couple of hands and then kinda got blinded out.  She was actually a very nice girl to talk to however, not at all what I expected!

Well done Liv. Should buy a few guitars/death metal albums!

Exactly, I dont quite see why she wouldnt be. She's well spoken and very bright.

Oh no don't tell me Liv went and won it?! After all that 'I don't like playing womens tourneys' on the sky recording you didn't then go and win it? I bet Eddie was falling about!

if you did well done Liv  ;applause;  - bit ironic though!  ::)   

Tracey x

Does anyone know where the results can be found?

next months copy of OK?  ;hide;

I think they are putting it on the back of DAZ boxes....so kinboshi told me!

Who is abi Titmuss

never heard of her  show pics to prove she exisits

everyone whines on about how crap her porno is, but how come i cant find it online for less than $20?

Its not shit at alll, it has a woman in it,and a stripper at that, which already makes it a billion (est.figure) times better than paris'!!!!

can't find them sorry.

Liv won 50 large though, which is eye poppingly good obv.

Thank Goodness for these mollycoddled ladies comps IMO!

free download for sure...

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=33492.msg705678;boardseen#new


15 large, my mistake

There you go Suzanne.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=33492.new#new

Haha I know, kinda made me eat those words eh... 

Was great to meet you by the way Tracey, you are excellent at debating!

You pay for porn online? Poor man...

You will be pleased to learn that I did a piece on camera for Laddies the other night. Amongst other points I did explain that i was in favour of ladies only tournaments.
I also explained that a lot of ladies are put off when trying to play in casinos as there are plenty of fat middle aged men that are rude to ladies at the table. I explained that to be fair they are not just rude to ladies that they are rude to everyone.  :D

what with some of the stuff that's come up on this thread and others over the last couple of days and the recent catgirl stunt it seems as though the world of poker (on the surface at least) is moving further away from becoming a woman friendly enviornment and becoming quite the opposite.  I'm not in a very articulate mood at the minute so can't really explain it, but I find it saddening and a bit of a backwards step that women in poker seem to be considered more of a 'novelty' than ever.

Catgirl made her own choice about that - to get a seat in a tourney. She demeaned herself imho.

What he said

I agree, and I think it's the women involved in several cases that are perpetuating the problems.  

I agree. I met Liv last week doing that women in poker discussion thing at Sky - really nice woman. I had researched some stuff before I went and thought the following interesting if only as an example of how the press perceive women poker players, but how we also let them.

Press release about Liv and Absolute poker in one of the poker mags - pic of Liv with an electric guitar, laying back on a sofa thing with the guitar provocatively held between her legs. Nice photo - dont get me wrong - she looks great in it. Next page of magazine - Jon Kalmar has been signed for Laddies. Picture of him at a poker table riffling chips.....

This is not to blame Liv. If I had a sponsor and they wanted to get a photo of me looking gorgeous and provocative and they were prepared to pay for the airbrushing fees would I refuse on principle? Probably not - opportunity to look great in print....I'm unlikely to say no.

Would Jon Kalmar be up for the same deal?  As a bloke less likely to be asked, but also he would probably not be that bothered by getting a great picture of himself I would imagine.

However there is a difference between a guitar and a bikini. A guitar I accept as the way of the commercial world. Liv is fully clothed for goodness sake.
Bikini? Bigger price to pay imho - I have sympathy for someone who is that desperate to get a buy in to a poker comp that they cavort around in their underwear.

please dont rise to comments from people who assume you are useless and only got sponsored because of how you look- you know the truth and thats all that should matter. Flushy obviously won a bracelet and an EPT in his first 3 or 4 live events so is in a great position to mock you. Obviously why he hasn't been picked up for sponsorship with his male model looks is a mystery to everyone at blonde ;) Stuff his mocking down his throat with a couple of nice results this year is the best way to deal with him.

liv would struggle to look anything but gorgeous in anything she was to turn up in but please the thought of skalie in a bikini is making me feel sick (ive just got back from a nice thai restaraunt). Having said that if a lot of men on the circuit were told they would get a sponsorship if they were to pose in their boxers I'm sure many would jump at the chance (thank god nobody is making those offers though)

Flipping heck Russ - that is the best post I've ever seen you make. There wasn't a sexist word in it.  :goodpost:

He's hoping for a date?

Word. sigh....

there you go I defend a lady and all the women on here think I am doing it to get a date lol


I can't win so I may as well just ask why you lot are still posting on here? don't you have womanly duties to be dealing with at this time of night? ;)

I've done them.  Kids have been ordered to clean their rooms and go to bed.  Check.  Himself was asked to clean up the kitchen as he was last to arrive for the dinner.  Check.  Small one brought in my cuppa and snack before she hit the sack.  Check.  Kids kissed goodnight.  Check.  Himself sent to the pub so he wouldn't annoy me whilst I take control of computer AND telly remote.  Check.  And all is right with the world.

Let's say Absolute called you now and said they wanted to sponsor you in return for you wearing their branding etc.  Would you do it?

will you marry me plz??

....

I should clarify about this actually - the use of my guitar in some of the photos was completely my idea.  I play guitar loads and the whole "rock chick/heavy metal" thing is part of my persona so I thought it'd be a good idea to include it in the initial promo shots.  However, in hindsight I appreciate the positioning of it could be misinterpreted as a bit phallic - although at the time I was going on what the photographer said looks cool (who incidentally, was a woman!) so what was meant to be a very innocent but rock'n'roll picture perhaps could look slightly weird to those with dirtier minds!!!!

However, the most important part is that it is a bloody gorgeous guitar and it's my baby and hence there must be nothing bad said about it please!

Oooh - difficult one - I assume you are referring to software/security problems they had recently?

I don't know enough about what happened to make a judgement right now, but if they offered to sponsor me I would want to know that all problems had been dealt with properly and that people had been repaid if appropriate.

I'm not sure what exactly what went wrong but that's the gist of it I think?

If a sponsor had a bad reputation but had made their peace and wanted to move on then yes - I would get involved. Who wouldn't? If things hadn't been sorted then I'm not so sure. I'd need more information to make a proper decision - good quesion btw.
I would definitely consider it

theres nothing wrong with having liv posing in whatever they can talk her into as its a simple fact of human nature that men are more visually stimulated than women. Put liv in a bikini and men would melt, put kal in speedos and women would probably vomit (sorry mate). Women are more mentally stimulated than men so a feature on a bloke would more than likely be on his mind than his body- we can't all look like Patric Antonious or Ryan Fronda after all.

Liv - I thought the photo was great - it just demonstrated the different approach to men and women in poker.

Ahem. Russ gets it wrong again. Try this.

;kev;

and you got pinnochio holding the boom....he's probably telling you how gorgeous you look grandad ;)

look if any sponsors out there want to offer me a long term sponsorship deal in return i have to wear there biniki's them i am game

ps there is more of me to put there logo on too

and i will even allow them to replace the quickie logo on my chair with there logo too

Enjoy

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fniouRY8avY

What you doing promoting the Hendon mob forum instead of Blonde.
Ban IMO....

Its being discussed in the mods room right now !!


we are struggling to find a reason not to ban ;)

Can i have some free advice please?

Don't eat yellow snow.

;ashamed; I should have said THM and Blonde of course. I think I had just answered another question and I was talking about poker million and Joe's win, hence it was in my mind when I answered the next question.
There is another question about ladies only events and I commented that you were all fully supportive of such events.  ;whistle;