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Title: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 18, 2008, 01:08:32 AM Wicked Chops Poker is reporting that Brandi Hawbaker of all the infamous gossip stories from the poker world has taken her own life.
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Dingdell on April 18, 2008, 01:14:56 AM Great shame when anyone takes their own life whatever the circumstances. Obv was a lot going on in that womans mind.
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: KarmaDope on April 18, 2008, 01:18:57 AM Great shame when anyone takes their own life whatever the circumstances. Obv was a lot going on in that womans mind. Can't help but wonder if the media fallout with the whole Sklansky thing has been the catalyst for her actions. RIP Brandi. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: The_duke on April 18, 2008, 01:20:38 AM If its true she can be no more than 25-26 -- such a tragic waste of a life - what turmoil was she suffering, must have been overwhelming - may she now have peace
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on April 18, 2008, 01:31:53 AM 26
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Sunday8pm on April 18, 2008, 02:06:19 AM Shittttt
I can imagine those mugs over at 2+2 are probably partly to blame for this... Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: totalise on April 18, 2008, 02:13:13 AM this is truly sickening if its true :( :(
Its also the reason why I tended to hate forums, on 2p2 and NWP etc, you get a bunch of anonymous assholes that just take such delight in insulting others, its not just a small pleasure, its a complete warming of their souls, to run people down so much and denigrate posters. Was she a soul that deserved acclamation? definitely not. Did she deserve all the purile bullshit that she got from these forums? definitely not. I feel so everso sorry for her, and I cant help but think that the scum on 2p2 and NWP etc in some way contributed to this mess. I hope the scumbags on those forums that took such delight in insulting her are feeling happy with their lives, because if this is true, they definitely contributed to this. Of course, that Micon guy that runs NWP will do anything to earn a couple $$, so theres no real reason to believe that this is true, but if it is, NWP/2p2 etc need to take a good look at themselves, and do some soul searching to find out why they hate humanity so much that they can just sit and insult it like it means nothing. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: ariston on April 18, 2008, 02:29:34 AM Shittttt I can imagine those mugs over at 2+2 are probably partly to blame for this... not partially to blame but hugely to blame. Brandi had some problems and everything she did in her life was ripped to shreds on other forums, imagine every mistake you have ever made being highlighted on the internet for ridicule. I am really in shock Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: ariston on April 18, 2008, 02:34:07 AM story is true
RIP girl and i really hope sklansky gets the backlash he deserves Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: madasahatstand on April 18, 2008, 07:42:13 AM This is terrible :( The woman is a victim of bullying. I took a look at the thread that was linked on blonde and I was ashamed on 2+ 2's behalf. It should be a lesson to anyone going in for a bit of 'fun' at someone elses expense. The pack mentality is dangerous and we never really know how people feel when the 'joke' or slagging is directed at them. Maybe this will help that kind of person people grow some insight?
I really hope its not true but if it is Im sorry to hear it. RIP Brandi..:( Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: DaveShoelace on April 18, 2008, 07:50:31 AM I always try and stay clear from massive forums like 2p2 and such.
I remember my post count on pocketfives was approximatley 3, before I made an innocent post about Zee Dustin and got a barrage of PMs from young American lads along the lines of "I kill you f$^$£& f%$^&$" Same thing with 2p2, I browse it every day because the hand analysis, news and so in is superb, but essentially they all become forums for american $0.10/$0.20 players to abuse anyone who has actually done ok in poker. Also, I have no idea how women even bother to browse there, some of the prepubescent frustrated rants directed towards females is awful (David Sklansky included in this demographic) Havent really followed this particular story though, reminded me of Jerry Springer Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: taximan007 on April 18, 2008, 08:19:56 AM This is terrible :( The woman is a victim of bullying. I took a look at the thread that was linked on blonde and I was ashamed on 2+ 2's behalf. It should be a lesson to anyone going in for a bit of 'fun' at someone elses expense. The pack mentality is dangerous and we never really know how people feel when the 'joke' or slagging is directed at them. Maybe this will help that kind of person people grow some insight? I really hope its not true but if it is Im sorry to hear it. RIP Brandi..:( :goodpost: Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: kenjude on April 18, 2008, 08:37:30 AM I thought it the time of the big Brandi threads that if I were Mason Malmuth I would be extremely unhappy with Sklansky's public contributions on the forum and nothoing since has changed my mind.
"All publicity is good publicity" isn't always true IMO. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Claw75 on April 18, 2008, 08:58:50 AM Shocking waste of a young life.
Whilst I don't condone how Brandi chose to live, it was quite clear to me from reading various stories about her that this was a young woman with a lot of issues who needed help, and I can relate to a lot of that on a personal level. RIP Brandi. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: doubleup on April 18, 2008, 10:00:34 AM this is truly sickening if its true :( :( Its also the reason why I tended to hate forums, on 2p2 and NWP etc, you get a bunch of anonymous assholes that just take such delight in insulting others, its not just a small pleasure, its a complete warming of their souls, to run people down so much and denigrate posters. Was she a soul that deserved acclamation? definitely not. Did she deserve all the purile bullshit that she got from these forums? definitely not. I feel so everso sorry for her, and I cant help but think that the scum on 2p2 and NWP etc in some way contributed to this mess. I hope the scumbags on those forums that took such delight in insulting her are feeling happy with their lives, because if this is true, they definitely contributed to this. Of course, that Micon guy that runs NWP will do anything to earn a couple $$, so theres no real reason to believe that this is true, but if it is, NWP/2p2 etc need to take a good look at themselves, and do some soul searching to find out why they hate humanity so much that they can just sit and insult it like it means nothing. While not disagreeing that this is a very sad story, 2+2 etc have absolutely zero to do with this event. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: jizzemm on April 18, 2008, 10:08:01 AM ;popcorn;
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: SuffolkPunch on April 18, 2008, 10:09:35 AM 2+2 idiots, IMO
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Claw75 on April 18, 2008, 10:11:19 AM speculation on how much of this was down to 2+2 is pointless - only Brandi herself knows how much of a part that played. I would never underestimate the damage that can be done by bullying though.
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: ACE2M on April 18, 2008, 10:14:33 AM poor girl.
I have never been on NWP until just now, what a bunch of c@*$ts. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: TheChipPrince on April 18, 2008, 10:22:35 AM Sorry I have no idea as to any background of this story, but RIP...
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Longy on April 18, 2008, 11:50:58 AM Wow terrible news for anyone that young to feel suicide was an option.
As for how much 2p2 had to do this with is hard to tell and only brandi will be able to tell you. All I can say that some of the stuff in the NVG forum on 2p2 went too far and it must have affected here in some way. She was a very troubled women though and with or without 2p2, this always a possibility. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Nem on April 18, 2008, 11:51:46 AM What did 2+2 do?
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: byronkincaid on April 18, 2008, 11:55:14 AM sklansky admitted he used her for publicity and ended up allegedly threatening to have acid thrown on her and saying she should kill herself.
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: byronkincaid on April 18, 2008, 11:57:23 AM Quote ------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Now That My Anger Has Subsided From: Dsklansky@Iwishicoulddodamagecontrol... situation.edu Date: Sat, March 1, 2008 5:12 pm To: brandi@Icouldbemakingthis****upbecau...llycraz y.net Cc: nocluewhotheCCis@gmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- So you see that it is probably not neccessary for me to do anythig illegal to make sure you get what you deserve. HOWEVER it is important to understand that you might be in such jeapardy without my knowledge. For instance you know I have young friends, who have friends, who have friends who do nasty things at the blink of an eye. Drive by shootings etc. To do something like throw some paint on a good dress would be nothing to them. If I ever told my friends that your obsession with your looks means that you would be appalled if that happened to you once, let alone a dozen times, they might do that behind my back just to please me. Asking nothing in return They might even think I'd like it better if it was acid rather than paint since that would mean people would say "guess you can't talk about Sue now". I would never want them to to do that but you never know about those guys. The reason I am telling you this is not because there is something you could do to change things. There is nothing you can do either for me or to me. No, the reason I am telling you is because the anticipation of wondering what will happen is at least as bad as the act itself. You proved that to me when you put me through the anguish of worrying about Sue. Basically the only option available is to leave the poker world forever. Ply your trade elsewhere. Suicide wouldn't be a bad option either. If you do that I will promise to stop badmouthing you. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: ariston on April 18, 2008, 12:03:19 PM brandi had serious problems going back to her childhood but what happened to her on 2+2 was a disgrace. Ok she craved attention and affection like many but what Sklansky did in particular was unaceptable. Hope she is just left to RIP and its not all dragged up again although I fear we havent heard the last of this.
tragic waste of a young life Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: GlasgowBandit on April 18, 2008, 12:21:54 PM Sick tragic event, I too don't think we have seen or heard the last about this, I for one wouldn't be surprised to see this turend into a film.
Sklansky is a repugnant man and he should be investigated by the authorities, there is absolutely no shadow of a doubt in my mind that this disgusting excuse for a man has played a major part in destabalising Brandi's mental state. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: boldie on April 18, 2008, 12:25:54 PM Sklansky is a repugnant man and he should be investigated by the authorities, agreed a complete and utter wank. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: steeveg on April 18, 2008, 12:31:38 PM looks like they where both very bitter and disturbed,brandis threats to expose sklansky and sue in every furom looked a bit sick but i suppose we dont know the full story so its hard to judge,sklansky turned the tables on her but went to far with the mind games , it looks as though the world they lived in was very sick,
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: ariston on April 18, 2008, 12:35:30 PM she was troubled before she even mate sklansky but he has helped to her push her over the edge. I class myself of a bit of a pig and old perv but sklansky makes me look like a monk. How he treated brandi should be investigated by the authorities. He used someone who was emotionally and mentally unstable and then got real nasty when he didn't get what he wanted out of the deal.
this of course is going to end up being a film and it will shed a very poor light on the poker world. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Nem on April 18, 2008, 01:10:34 PM LOL @ "this will be a film"
Who cares outside the poker world? Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Snatiramas on April 18, 2008, 01:15:44 PM It's just a sad story with a terrible outcome but what do we know
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: bobby1 on April 18, 2008, 03:57:24 PM That really is awful news.
Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: crip17 on April 18, 2008, 08:42:34 PM There was always a gd chance that this was ineviatable. she had made severeral attempts before in her troubled, disturbed young life. She was no angel and had a nasty vindictive streak. But unfortunatly there's a lot of fcked up sick people in this world that will pray on the vunerable and ill.
Slansky's a nasty piece of work, and brought all the shame on himself, but then again none of us know the true story of events. RIP to another tragic young life Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: tikay on April 19, 2008, 05:20:09 AM Was this the young lady who was "involved" a year or two back with Captain Tom Franklin? Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: gatso on April 19, 2008, 05:24:02 AM Was this the young lady who was "involved" a year or two back with Captain Tom Franklin? yep Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: totalise on April 20, 2008, 05:20:05 AM this is truly sickening if its true :( :( Its also the reason why I tended to hate forums, on 2p2 and NWP etc, you get a bunch of anonymous assholes that just take such delight in insulting others, its not just a small pleasure, its a complete warming of their souls, to run people down so much and denigrate posters. Was she a soul that deserved acclamation? definitely not. Did she deserve all the purile bullshit that she got from these forums? definitely not. I feel so everso sorry for her, and I cant help but think that the scum on 2p2 and NWP etc in some way contributed to this mess. I hope the scumbags on those forums that took such delight in insulting her are feeling happy with their lives, because if this is true, they definitely contributed to this. Of course, that Micon guy that runs NWP will do anything to earn a couple $$, so theres no real reason to believe that this is true, but if it is, NWP/2p2 etc need to take a good look at themselves, and do some soul searching to find out why they hate humanity so much that they can just sit and insult it like it means nothing. While not disagreeing that this is a very sad story, 2+2 etc have absolutely zero to do with this event. hi doubleup, thanks for briefly bringing brandi back from the dead and giving complete clarification on this matter. I know that a few threads on the internet were debating this point, so its good to find out the difinitive truth. If you have the time, can you wield your magical "un-dead people" powers, and ask Marilyn Monroe if she killed herself or if she was murdered? thanks in advance. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: DaveShoelace on April 20, 2008, 12:28:30 PM I didnt realise Sklansky had gone that far, has that been substansiated? If so I might just throw away my signed copy of the Theory of Poker.
Or if anyone fancies buying it off me? Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Claw75 on April 20, 2008, 12:59:57 PM I didnt realise Sklansky had gone that far, has that been substansiated? I don't think he's denied it. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: DaveShoelace on April 20, 2008, 01:05:03 PM I didnt realise Sklansky had gone that far, has that been substansiated? I don't think he's denied it. Crikey, the man is a freak. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Horneris on April 21, 2008, 10:00:19 AM I think 2+2 has 0 to do with it. And if you think it has, you have to question the mentality of sum1 who kills themsevles bcoz of abuse on an internet forum.
Was probs Newhizzle imo. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Woodsey on April 21, 2008, 12:27:25 PM I think 2+2 has 0 to do with it. And if you think it has, you have to question the mentality of sum1 who kills themsevles bcoz of abuse on an internet forum. Was probs Newhizzle imo. I call BS Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Claw75 on April 21, 2008, 12:37:07 PM I think 2+2 has 0 to do with it. And if you think it has, you have to question the mentality of sum1 who kills themsevles bcoz of abuse on an internet forum. Was probs Newhizzle imo. just be thankful you haven't got that mentality then - life can do funny things to people. Title: Re: A tragic end to Poker's tabloid story. Post by: Graham C on April 21, 2008, 01:58:28 PM I get the impression that she personally knew a lot of 2+2ers and a lot knew her. The real life issues were battered out on the forums and I'd say that directly or indirectly, the forum people had a fair amount to do with it. Plenty of people jumped on various bandwagons.
But I never knew her, tis only imho. |