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Title: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: Pyso on April 27, 2008, 11:48:38 AM Good Morning Blondies,
I have been rightly criticised for too much detail in the past so I’ll be a little more concise this time. This is a hand I played last night and I would like to know what your decision would have been on the river and whether I should have done anything different. £0.50/£1 cash game at DTD. 9 Seater, solid table, approx. 2.a.m. I have been taking lots of small hits, am ultra card dead; it's just one of those grinding sessions where all we are doing is moving money around the table with nobody making any real progress. I am in the BB, have 8,6 off suit. I check my option and five of us see the flop, which is 8,K,6 Nice. I am acting first and fire out a small bet of £2 - well, the pot is only £5 and I want customers, reasoning that I have the best hand right now. It is a rainbow board also. I get two callers. The turn is the 6 of diamonds giving me a full house. Happy days. I bet out £5, again a little small but I am now even more confident that I have the best hand. Worryingly, I get two callers once more. The river is the Jack of diamonds - there are now three diamonds on the board. I am now thinking that it might not be as clear cut as I thought but still fire out £10 into a pot of £26. The next to act pushes all in for about £28. …interesting. The last guy re-raises to £40. He has me covered. Now, I look at the board again. Quad sixes are impossible, but of course it is a paired board and I don’t have the nut full house. I go into the tank and think what £40 re-raise man could have been playing and reason that a flush is not impossible, although the rainbow flop makes it less likely. The two hands that scare me are pocket 8s and K,6 but then I think, come on, how likely is it that I am up against both these exact hands? I consider pushing all-in myself but then pull back and just flat call, but to be honest I’m not feeling good about it. Anyway, there is a tangible sense of disbelief on the table as all-in guy turns over pocket 8s and the re-raise to £40 guy turns over K,6. I shake my head and comment that I have never before been in a three way pot at showdown with a full house and had the third best hand.. My friend opposite shakes his head and says there was nothing I could do and that I did well to only flat call. Someone else says that if you had seen that on the internet you would have wondered whether it was rigged or not. Do you lot agree, or could I have seen it coming (well, I half did, which is why I just flat called at the end)? Thanks, Pyso. Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: boldie on April 27, 2008, 04:13:24 PM Good Morning Blondies, I have been rightly criticised for too much detail in the past so I’ll be a little more concise this time. This is a hand I played last night and I would like to know what your decision would have been on the river and whether I should have done anything different. £0.50/£1 cash game at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/index.php?affiliate=blonde)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/index.php?affiliate=blonde). 9 Seater, solid table, approx. 2.a.m. I have been taking lots of small hits, am ultra card dead; it's just one of those grinding sessions where all we are doing is moving money around the table with nobody making any real progress. I am in the BB, have 8,6 off suit. I check my option and five of us see the flop, which is 8,K,6 Nice. I am acting first and fire out a small bet of £2 - well, the pot is only £5 and I want customers, reasoning that I have the best hand right now. It is a rainbow board also. I get two callers. The turn is the 6 of diamonds giving me a full house. Happy days. I bet out £5, again a little small but I am now even more confident that I have the best hand. Worryingly, I get two callers once more. The river is the Jack of diamonds - there are now three diamonds on the board. I am now thinking that it might not be as clear cut as I thought but still fire out £10 into a pot of £26. The next to act pushes all in for about £28. …interesting. The last guy re-raises to £40. He has me covered. Now, I look at the board again. Quad sixes are impossible, but of course it is a paired board and I don’t have the nut full house. I go into the tank and think what £40 re-raise man could have been playing and reason that a flush is not impossible, although the rainbow flop makes it less likely. The two hands that scare me are pocket 8s and K,6 but then I think, come on, how likely is it that I am up against both these exact hands? I consider pushing all-in myself but then pull back and just flat call, but to be honest I’m not feeling good about it. Anyway, there is a tangible sense of disbelief on the table as all-in guy turns over pocket 8s and the re-raise to £40 guy turns over K,6. I shake my head and comment that I have never before been in a three way pot at showdown with a full house and had the third best hand.. My friend opposite shakes his head and says there was nothing I could do and that I did well to only flat call. Someone else says that if you had seen that on the internet you would have wondered whether it was rigged or not. Do you lot agree, or could I have seen it coming (well, I half did, which is why I just flat called at the end)? Thanks, Pyso. Your friend should be shot IMO. You should always go broke with a FH in a cash game. Your only mistake here was not pushing all in on the river...oh and bet bigger on the flop..2£ in a 5£ pot doesn't do anything for me. Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: gatso on April 27, 2008, 04:27:14 PM I'm reloading here 100% of the time
Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: Newmanseye on April 27, 2008, 07:01:37 PM I think a point you are issing is you did not go broke, you obv had that "feeling" inside that told you something was not quite right, Well done for not shoving on the river and trusting your gut.
Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: Amatay on April 27, 2008, 07:08:20 PM You played it exaclty like i would have played it tbh. I actually sometimes fold the on the river in rare occasions but it depends. You had a feeling and you were right, wp
Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: Longy on April 27, 2008, 08:01:12 PM Hmmm i probably go broke here but i can see an arguement for flatting the cold 3 bet to £40. Really would depend on my reads on my oppos, no way on earth can you fold at any point.
I think you are losing value by not betting closer to the pot on flop and turn imo, in a live game people are calling the flop with any piece,any draw. Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: Pyso on April 28, 2008, 12:29:01 PM Thanks guys for the feedback. This was a very frustrating hand, the one that seems to happen when the old downswing is in full flow! I still can't quite believe it however - a full house and it's the third best hand! Oh well, at least I didn't lose it all...
Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: Hairydude on April 30, 2008, 07:15:59 PM in my humble opinion its.........................50p ;)
Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: Pyso on May 01, 2008, 10:27:10 AM Rumbled...
Title: Re: Is this as sick as it felt at the time? Post by: Junior Senior on May 01, 2008, 09:00:00 PM another 50p required.
tough one to get away from IMO |