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Title: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: AlexMartin on May 14, 2008, 04:15:54 AM
UTG (22/17) (good reg, solidish) opens for $7 in 200nl game with 300 behind. Hes normally fairly tight here and plays pretty basic tag stuff.

 Cutoff (28/19) (okish looser aggro type) repops to $19 (200stack). This guy (TugoutesPeche on 200ipoker) is pretty insane at times but also can play very well. Seems spewy this session.

I flat  Qc Qd in BB.

Flop  Td  3d 2s

I check (280 stack), utg checks, cutoff bets $38. I flat. UTG raises to 90, cutoff times down and flats the mini raise.

Hero?






Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: Suited_Jock on May 14, 2008, 09:57:12 AM
Lay them down here one of them has KK+ ..

With the numbers I can't see JJ or AK/AQ played this daft.

Get out for $19 imo..


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: Longy on May 14, 2008, 09:59:27 AM
Wow what a strange hand.

Preflop is interesting as cold 4bet squeezing probably folds out all worse and get shoved on by all better. So calling though it seems like sitting on the fence is probably fine.

Check calling the first bet seems fine with a look to reasses the turn. What utg is doing here god knows, he must know you have a pretty strong hand (ak,qq-1010), so his check raise is repping a massive hand and the sizing makes me believe him as im sure a monster combo draw makes c/r bigger.

CO then flats the raise which is like wow, i can't see how qq is good here. I would sigh and pass.


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: lucky_scrote on May 14, 2008, 12:30:00 PM
you would have taken this one down preflop mate.


You are in a tough spot now though. I'm gonna chuck it


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: maldini32 on May 14, 2008, 01:17:59 PM
Nasty, i pass. utgs got tt and cut offs got ak diamonds. Horrible spot M8.


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: action man on May 14, 2008, 05:22:25 PM
god knows what they have, and for that reason the QQ say goodbye, im prob folding KK here also.


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: AlexMartin on May 15, 2008, 04:16:41 AM
i folded, utg had 1010 and cutoff had AA. they got it in on turn. Could utg have played it any worse?


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: action man on May 15, 2008, 06:21:19 PM
you would have taken this one down preflop mate.



Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: Sunday8pm on May 17, 2008, 02:22:25 PM
UTG (22/17) (good reg, solidish) opens for $7 in 200nl game with 300 behind. Hes normally fairly tight here and plays pretty basic tag stuff.

 Cutoff (28/19) (okish looser aggro type) repops to $19 (200stack). This guy (TugoutesPeche on 200ipoker) is pretty insane at times but also can play very well. Seems spewy this session.

I flat  Qc Qd in BB.

Flop  Td  3d 2s

I check (280 stack), utg checks, cutoff bets $38. I flat. UTG raises to 90, cutoff times down and flats the mini raise.

Hero?






You play your hand too face up here. Fine against donkeys but if they are half decent regulars your range can be narrowed to QQ


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: AlexMartin on May 17, 2008, 03:54:33 PM
UTG (22/17) (good reg, solidish) opens for $7 in 200nl game with 300 behind. Hes normally fairly tight here and plays pretty basic tag stuff.

 Cutoff (28/19) (okish looser aggro type) repops to $19 (200stack). This guy (TugoutesPeche on 200ipoker) is pretty insane at times but also can play very well. Seems spewy this session.

I flat  Qc Qd in BB.

Flop  Td  3d 2s

I check (280 stack), utg checks, cutoff bets $38. I flat. UTG raises to 90, cutoff times down and flats the mini raise.

Hero?






You play your hand too face up here. Fine against donkeys but if they are half decent regulars your range can be narrowed to QQ


ur spot on tbh, but they dont me and i dont know them too well. Obv and decent handreader is gonna crush me.......... but i dont mind my range being so easily highlighted in these spots because:-

a)  im trying to get donks $, not really utg's, and donks dont hand read so well

b) my range isnt just QQ, although it is the weighted part of the range fosu. 1010/JJ AdKd/AdQd i play like this on occassion.


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: LuckyLloyd on May 18, 2008, 03:49:05 AM
Could utg have played it any worse?

He could have folded the flop I guess.


Title: Re: Marginal spot with QQ multiway.
Post by: MC on May 20, 2008, 06:06:35 PM
Nice fold, I'd have passed here ... unless that $90 raise is the nut flush draw or something, it seems you're pretty dead.

Agreed though ... How does UTG not pop it preflop?