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As it is every year the betting is dominated by the horses that did well in the Guinneas but I had a look at the card and for some reason Nownownow is 33-1 on betfair. This horse won the Breeders cup juvenile (turf) at the end of last year and, although that was on dire ground, does handle firm as his two wins before that show. Anyone else think 33-1 is a bit on the big side ? I haven't had a bet on the race yet but this looks a decent EW bet...has anyone heard anything about an interrupted preparation for this one?

no news in racing reports, i would be concerned the horse has not had a run before a big race ,it is also entered in a big race at ascot in 3 weeks,but the trainers form in small races is very good over the last week, so the stable is in form.i still think its a 2 horse race but i wouldnt put you off it.

I haven't read any interviews with the trainer about his plans for the horse. Do you think the Ascot race is his main goal rather than the Irish guinneas?

i am not sure boldie,the big  price on betfair maybe something to do with it, if i see anything i will post.

thanks mate...i can't find a bloody thing about the intentions with this fella.

thoughts on Nahoodh in the 1000? I think in terms of value, laying this beast is probably the right play, not yet, but in the win market on the day of the race. His run in the English version was very very eye-catching, but everyone will think this, and maybe overbet it? a lot of horses that have raced like that have found nothing when being ridden hard, so I think that there is going to be too much money lumped on it, on the back of its last run, which drives the price too short, making it a value-lay.

In the 2k, I dont really know what to think, I dont think the form of the top 2 is as good as it looks, given the raggy quality of the horse that came third. Ibn Khaldun is probably the one I'd go for, but I dont know how likely that is to run.

Of course, im a losing sportsbettor, so take that for what its worth.

I've not checked out the prices but I agree Nownownow is a good place prospect and the lack of a run wouldn't put me off backing it for a place, if I remember correctly  Lammtarra was unraced as a three year old when winning the Derby a few years back.

As for the price if it's on Betfair it's likely to be the win only price, you may find that the place only may be a lot less than the 8/1 you may expect for a place on a 33/1 shot.

bit of news in racing post,

HENRYTHENAVIGATOR and New Approach will be taken on by an American champion in the Irish 2,000 Guineas on Saturday, as Nownownow, last year's Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf winner,is set to make his European debut.

The colt, formerly trained by Patrick Biancone, who is serving a year's suspension in the US, has since joined David Wachman, who plans to saddle both Nownownow and Great War Eagle in the Boylesports-sponsored
Classic at the Curragh.

Nownownow beat three European challengers, including the Aidan O'Brien-trained Achill Island, who finished a half-length second, in the Juvenile Turf at Monmouth Park last October.

Wachman said on Tuesday: “We had hoped to run him in the English Guineas, but he just didn't make it. He is in good shape and Olivier Peslier will ride him.

“Great War Eagle is also an intended runner. I hope the ground remains fast for him, and Wayne Lordan will probably ride him

Yeah I read that. He had planned to send him to the guinneas without a prep run as well so that's fine for me. It's convinced me that 33-1 is too big ..28 still available on betfair generally 20's. With Ibn out it's a dead 8 and the price looks massive.

its a bit of a risk, famous name may be withdrawn if going to firm, may be only 7 runners

ah yes..fair point.

i am not trying to put you off m8, there may be a bookie who will treat bet as an anti post bet if you bet today and still pay first 3, worth checking before you put bet on,i think betfair will still pay 3 places if you bet today but odds are vey bad

I think one of the big two might dissapoint so am not really put off..too late to be put off anyways..I always expected 33-1 to be too big so took it.

n1, you may get paid 3 places no matter how many runners

no idea...doesn't really matter mate..tis only peanuts and more of an "I told you so" bet than anything else :)

lol,i know what you mean, i found 1 myself a few weeks back 40/1 got a £10ew, next day down to 25/1s ,then 16/1,value all gone.

same with the donkey that won the national. Bandit (of all people) tips it and I tell him "wow, found a great bit of value there @40-1"..but  do I back it at 40-1? Do I bollox...drove me nuts. I am not taking them risks again..spot a bit of value..stick a bit on :)

yeah thats what its all about i think, not picking outsiders,just a selection whose odds are far too big,thats the great thing about the internet, no walking round betting shops all day, click of a button youve got the best odds in the country

Yeah..though I love to go into the bookies and place a bet, the exchanges have it for me. Wish I had a roll for laying off horses though.

yeah, if you know how certain horses run there races ,you can lay some big bets knowing the horse will not run a good race and will drift big, Harry Findlay gave a brilliant 2part interview on telly during cheltenham, hes made a fortune off the exchanges,

Hold up Boldie, lets get this clear - Bandit picked the 2nd in the National, not the winner.  2nd was the best it could do after Bandit tipped it.

Good luck with this bet though Boldie.

oh yeah...silly me..thinking Bandit had tipped a winner ;)

I saw that the jockey booked was Olivier Peslier,  that convinced me to invest on the nose following two previous 20/1+ wins in classics with this jockey on High Rise in the Derby and Cockney Rebel in last year's English 2000 Guinneas.

Field down to 5!

New Approach FTW!

last of 5...didn't see the race but according to the RP it did F A.

RP are right.

he is due to run in 3 weeks,this  may have been his target,now hes had a race he may run a lot better at ascot,ive found no no betting on the race yet ,

strange..ussually the St James' palace stakes betting opens fairly early...I think Ibn Khaldoun might go for it...rather than the Derby.  I also think that it will be the return of Winker Watson.

He never looked comfortable on the going and I wouldn't touch him again on this going.

Thankfully my favourite trainer / jockey combo of Michael Jarvis & Philip Robinson had a good day, make that a few good days, Thursday was pretty sweet too.

I'll have a search on youtube for the race tomorrow..but thanks for the info about him not handling the going mate :)