Title: you are the ref 2 Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2008, 05:23:01 PM Today's question
A defender is off the pitch receiving treatment and you have clearly told him to remain on the sideline until you signal for him to return. Spain are on the attack and Fernando Torres receives the ball outside the penalty area, runs through the defence, rounds the goalkeeper and taps the ball towards the empty net. As he turns to celebrate his goal the defender who was off the field receiving treatment sprints back on to the pitch without waiting for your signal to invite him on and performs a last-ditch goalline clearance. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/euro2008/2008/06/you_are_the_ref_2.html?ssorl=1212589958&ssoc=sign over to you, what do we do? Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on June 04, 2008, 05:24:43 PM These questions really are ridiculous
Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Suited_Jock on June 04, 2008, 05:26:11 PM Red Card + Penalty Kick
Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Rooky9 on June 04, 2008, 05:33:45 PM Can't give a goal, obv.
Caution the player for entering the field of play without permission. Look to find something else that you could caution him for - if he slid into the net clearing it I'd have him for leaving the field of play without permission. Indirect free at the position he touched it, I guess the goal line. I'd prefer a member of the crowd to run on and clear it. Classic. Nothing you can do but give an indirect free kick, which is pretty pointless on the goal line anyway - unless you have a team of Drogba's. Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: gatso on June 04, 2008, 05:37:25 PM this one's easy and much more clear cut than yesterday.
immediately stop the game, yellow card for the player, indirect freekick from wherever the ball was when the ref blew. if the ball was cleared out of play before the ref blew then throw in/corner as usual. Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: gatso on June 04, 2008, 05:52:54 PM Red Card + Penalty Kick that sounds like a tighty bB5 ruling. what are you giving the pen for? and what's the red card for? Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: brad.strider on June 04, 2008, 06:39:42 PM yellow card for coming on to field without permission, and a bounce ball to restart
Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: The Baron on June 04, 2008, 06:44:39 PM Do nothing.
Torres will score 3 more and Liverpool will win anyway. Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: gatso on June 04, 2008, 06:47:14 PM yellow card for coming on to field without permission, and a bounce ball to restart I believe this is the correct ruling if it had been a sub, team official or spectator (although the spectator wouldn't get the yellow). Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: turny on June 04, 2008, 06:49:46 PM Do nothing. Torres will score 3 more and Liverpool will win anyway. lol probably true! Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: boldie on June 04, 2008, 07:10:05 PM These questions really are FYP. Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Josedinho on June 04, 2008, 07:10:20 PM Red Card + Penalty Kick AgreedTitle: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: steeveg on June 04, 2008, 07:13:11 PM sending off, direct free kick at spot the ball was kicked,
Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Maxriddles on June 04, 2008, 07:30:55 PM Red Card + Penalty Kick What he said unless it was a Spanish defender. Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: kinboshi on June 05, 2008, 10:54:47 AM Was it an Italian defender? If so, I'd award them the win and give the player's club side a place in the Champions League, whilst pocketing an envelope full of Euros.
Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Suited_Jock on June 05, 2008, 11:28:37 AM Was it an Italian defender? If so, I'd award them the win and give the player's club side a place in the Champions League, whilst pocketing an envelope full of Euros. And ladies of the night! Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Geo the Sarge on June 05, 2008, 08:04:29 PM this one's easy and much more clear cut than yesterday. immediately stop the game, yellow card for the player, indirect freekick from wherever the ball was when the ref blew. if the ball was cleared out of play before the ref blew then throw in/corner as usual. Not so easy Gatso, rarely if ever, will you see a yellow card for an indirect freekick offence. I believe it should be a yellow card and direct freekick, in this case it would be a penalty. If a dog had run onto the pitch and stopped the ball crossing the line it would have been an indirect freekick that would be awarded. However the player here has committed a bookable offence by re-entering the field of play without permission and therefore a direct free kick (penalty in this case) should be awarded. BTW I'd have the dog barbq'd.........Korean meatballs FTW, they're the dogs bollocks. Geo Geo. Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Rooky9 on June 05, 2008, 08:08:25 PM this one's easy and much more clear cut than yesterday. immediately stop the game, yellow card for the player, indirect freekick from wherever the ball was when the ref blew. if the ball was cleared out of play before the ref blew then throw in/corner as usual. Not so easy Gatso, rarely if ever, will you see a yellow card for an indirect freekick offence. I believe it should be a yellow card and direct freekick, in this case it would be a penalty. If a dog had run onto the pitch and stopped the ball crossing the line it would have been an indirect freekick that would be awarded. However the player here has committed a bookable offence by re-entering the field of play without permission and therefore a direct free kick (penalty in this case) should be awarded. BTW I'd have the dog barbq'd.........Korean meatballs FTW, they're the dogs bollocks. Geo Geo. Yeah, I think last season there should have been a decent amount of red cards to go with indirect free kicks. Was it Kuyt against fulham who kung fu flew at someone and got sent off. If he didn't actually touch him surely he is being sent off for dangerous play, which should be an indirect free kick. Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Geo the Sarge on June 05, 2008, 08:18:00 PM Dangerous play is an automatic direct free kick
Geo Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: gatso on June 05, 2008, 08:51:54 PM I beg to differ sir
Not so easy Gatso, rarely if ever, will you see a yellow card for an indirect freekick offence. I believe it should be a yellow card and direct freekick, in this case it would be a penalty. Player outside the field of play If, after leaving the field of play to correct unauthorised equipment or kit, to be treated for an injury or bleeding, because he has blood on his kit or for any other reason with the referee’s permission, a player re-enters the fi eld of play without the referee’s permission, the referee shall: • stop play (although not immediately if the player does not interfere with play or if the advantage can be applied) • caution the player for entering the fi eld of play without permission • order the player to leave the fi eld of play if necessary (infringement of Law 4) If the referee stops play, it shall be restarted • with an indirect free kick for the opposing team from the position of the ball when play was stopped If a dog had run onto the pitch and stopped the ball crossing the line it would have been an indirect freekick that would be awarded. However the player here has committed a bookable offence by re-entering the field of play without permission and therefore a direct free kick (penalty in this case) should be awarded. not sure if this rule covers dogs or not :dontask: Outside Agents Anyone not indicated on the team list as a player, substitute or team offi cial is deemed to be an outside agent as is a player who has been sent off. If an outside agent enters the fi eld of play: • the referee shall stop play (although not immediately if the outside agent does not interfere with play) • the referee shall have him removed from the fi eld of play and its immediate surroundings • if the referee stops the match, he shall restart play with a dropped ball in the position where the ball was at the time when the match was stopped. Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: Rooky9 on June 05, 2008, 08:57:41 PM Dangerous play is an automatic direct free kick Geo I thought this might have been changed - must have been fairly recently - high foot, dangerous play, was always traditionally an indirect free kick. I got asked the dog question during my verbal exam! Title: Re: you are the ref 2 Post by: gatso on June 05, 2008, 09:05:46 PM Dangerous play is an automatic direct free kick Geo I thought this might have been changed - must have been fairly recently - high foot, dangerous play, was always traditionally an indirect free kick. I got asked the dog question during my verbal exam! dangerous play still is an indirect free-kick. I'm 99% sure on this one. |