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FC Twente (Dutch club) wanted him as their manager but apparently he's close to closing the deal with Blackburn according to a Dutch paper.

You have to feel sorry for the Blackburn supporters.

Steve Mc has an okay record, if not better, as a club manager.

I can't decide whether I like this news or not.

pretty sick for blackburn supporters, built up a pretty solid team over the past few years, Mclaren is a load of shit.

good club coach, will be fine for Blackburn..or similar team.

I wouldn't be renewing my season ticket if i was a blackburn fan and he was in charge is he a good club manager middlesboro fans were calling for his head for months before he got eng job apart from the luckiest uefa campaign your ever likely to see he didnt do much good at smoggies

come off it, proper blackburn fans will get season tickets regardless. Don't sensationalise it, he's a decent club manager.

There must be about 15k season ticket holders at Ewood park. I think they'll be hard core enough to give him a chance.

Boro fans know F all about football. This is a FACT. They weren't at all dissappointed to see the back of him, but look where they have been since he left. you are right, you'll never see such a lucky run again, but they got there all the same, something they won't do again in my lifetime.

I'm not m8 i wont be watching any bbc coverage that has him on as pundit and i couldn't go and watch my team be managed by a bloke who couldn't qualify for a major tournament with a group of players as good as what he had at his disposable more important to me though is the fact that he's a spineless pathetic joke of a man he didn't care that he was inept at doing his job and was just glad to take his ridiculous huge wod of cash and go on his hols 4 a bit

that's ridiculous

No he wasn't an international manager but the blame lies just as much at the door of overpaid poorly performing players as it does with McClaren

McClaren's major fault was a dour personality and bad PR. Look beyond that and you'll see a very good coach(Ferguson rated him hugely at Man U), and an ok club manager. Just not at international level where he should never have been appointed, but not his fault

I'd say much more the players fault. Massive individual errors, 4 or 5 that got punished, that you just don't see top international teams making.

Are you actually that bothered about England Mon?

What part is ridiculous tighty m8 (guessing ul say the whole part lol). Why would i want to listen to him on the bbc the man isn't some one who i believe had anything to say that is worth listening to imo.The amoiunt of money the players get paid is quite irrelevant to be fair seen as it's the club that pay them this money so there performances for england are kind of irrelevant to how much they earn.I do agree though that obviously the players have to take some of the blame but why do these same players play so well every week for there country then play so bad for there country surely this has something to do with the manager.Having a dour personality is one thing but to lack any kind of passion in your job is just pitiful imo we were 2-0 after 10mins and he stands on the touchline with his umbrella up and does make any attempt to instruct his players and didn't seem to have a care in the world i guess the effect of knowng your going toget a 5mil+ pay off in a couple of days time help the pain for him.I'm sure most won't agree but for the principle of it i would've quit instead of getting sacked so i could get my nice little payoff so many people on here love to slate kevin keegan at least the man had the decency to say ok a haven't done well enough at int level so instead of waitng to get my huge payoff ill resign with a bit of dignity.

lol was struggling with put your quote in. Although england come second to newcastle yeah m8 i was bothered loads me and my m8 where going to go over for the championships we had booked flights on the morning off the croatia game to go over afterwards a didnt give a monkeys ad wasted £180 was just gutted england weren't going to be there.

so clearly your lack of faith in McClaren hadn't been engendered by performances in Israel and Russia then?

you booked flights before the match? tbh, that suggests an optimism on McClaren before one match, not consistent with your views on McClaren now.

I dont like McClaren as a coach. He reminds me of Houllier quite a bit. Moderately successful in the cups but dull a f*ck to watch and amazingly unambitious in the transfer market. I guess he's not terrible but no better than average.

Southgate is a much better manager potentially. A lot of people (me included) had him down to fail without Viduka, Yakubu and Hasselbaink but he gotten rid of the lazies, regardless of their reputation, and put a good little team together who all work for each other. Alves will end up being a very good signing.

He may be an excellent coach on the training field, and may be every players best friend around the camp, but to fans he seems uninspiring and quite frankly, dull...

Thats all fans see, about 5% of his job, when he's standing on the touchline...

agree with that, and sadly for him a number of red top fans judge him on that and nothing more.

To be fair he did win a domestic trophy and went v close to a European trophy so maybe I was a bit harsh. He's slightly better than average. (For an English manager)

Not at all tighty the fact as you say them two performances were in israel and russia was the big thing we were away not at home id be interested to know how many competitive games england has lost at home in last 6/7 years and i believe it was 0 defeats at home under mclaren add to that the fact that croatia had nothing to play for so therefore like most a didnt see any possible way that we weren't going to qualify.I had hoped we'd qualify and play poorly and get lucky so that the FA would hopefully have the sense to get rid of mclaren after the craotia game.On that night its fair to say the players where as much to blame as they were on the pitch and i would also say gerrard as captain was a joke i've never seen him play so bad, i'm not saying he's 100% to blame but mclaren is the main reason imo that we aren't at the euros.

Key reasons we're not at the Euro's:

1) Paul Robinson
2) Scott Carson
3) Wayne Rooney
4) Steven Gerrard
5) Steve Mc

The biggest problem he'd face with Blackburn is getting the players & fans respect after the England post. He's ability at Blackburn's level is decent.

An excellent coach doesn't equal a good manager though. I agree with what your saying but what else can we judge him on only 1 thing i can suggest and thats results which were not good where they not good at all.

Mistakes did happen from the players standpoint but McClaren also made some clangers - and belief comes from the manager.

1) Why play the 3-5-2 in Croatia? Yes we played it at Euro 96 but with attacking players on the wings like McManaman and Anderton. Awful decision. Completely unjustified.

2) Why play Carson at that stage of the campaign?

3) Why sell yourself on the fact that you dont put "Square pegs into round holes" then play people out of position almost every game?

4) Why did his team seletion match the press' pretty much every game? The press want Beckham out so he's gone. Then there's a campaign to bring him back so he's back. I mean ffs!

5) Why, every time we were in front, could you physically see him waving our players back to defend? Talk about tactically inept!

6) Why couldn't he drop players he who blatantly underperforming? Can you imagine Mourinho or Ferguson puttin up with that? If a player is playin a clanger, you hook him. Simple as that. How many times did Mourinho do 3 half time substitutions?

I take saying he's better than average back. He's average at best.

Yes, all fair comment..but as a club manager...for a mid ranking premiership team like Blackburn, Boro or Newcastle..a perfectly acceptable choice

If David beckham had've been in the squad from the start we would be at the euros now FACT!!!!


Trust me this would not be an acceptable choice up here and there would be hell on if he was i'm not disagreeing we are a mid ranking premier lge team at the moment fwiw.

Agree. He wont get them relegated which in itself is money making. Although I dont know if Blackburn fans will want just that. Throw in some cup runs and I guess he'll be fine.

for Blackburn the priority for any manager is to keep Bentley and Roque Santa Cruz for next season, is it not?

beyond that consolidate. I don't think Blackburn fans can realistically expect better than 8th-12th whoever is manager.

Perfect for McClaren.

Ignoring the fact that Sven has since been dumped, aren't the comments aimed at Mclaren along the lines of those against Sven before he came to City. I think he could do a good job at Blackburn.

Yes they are but people are always remembered by their last job.

I think they couldve realistically expected 8th - 6th based on their home form.

So much of this teams solid home form and work ethic is down to hughes realistic managerial style, he knows what theyre able to achieve and what he's able to get out of the players, losing him in itself is gonna be difficult enough for them to deal with and without a major change in players it's gonna take a great manager to come in and deconstruct the team and get them playing to his own specifications, mclaren is NOT that manager!

I see them being around the bottom 1/4 next season

Not really because everybody accepted that sven was proven as a good club manager i don't think this is the case for mclaren.Also sven was more disliked by england fans inc myself because of his lack of passion and boring tactics but to be fair to sven  he did at least qualify for the major tournaments which any nugget should be able to achieve but also the fact we lost either 2 brazil or on pens isn't that terrible.

But Mclaren was the most successful English manager in the Premiership (Now overtaken by Harry Redknapp)

PS I don't like him, but just think factually his record is good.

Personally if i had choice between mclaren and ince id go ince everytime then again if i had choice between mclaren and any english manager who manages in the football leagues i'd go against mclaren.

yep

Shearer 2/1
Allardyce 11/4
Ince 5/1
McClaren 10/1
Ten Cate 16/1

+1 more.

lol @ people choosing Paul Ince ahead of Steve McClaren!

seriously, wtf?

I'd rather have Barry Fry than Steve Mclaren.

I'd obviously like Shearer to go to Blackburn, do well with them for 3 years then come to Newcastle.  I think it'd be a big gamble for them to take Shearer on though.

Jason, I'd choose you over Steve McClaren.

McClaren may have been a failure with the England squad, but he is a top class coach.

The players' have to take some of the blame imo.

Shearer just distanced himself from the job there - stating that he asked if he would like to be included in the shortlist but declined.

Current prices on PP:

Allardyce 11/8
Shearer 7/4
Ince 7/2
McClaren 11/1
Ten Cate 14/1

Its possible he's saying that because he doesn't want everyone to no everytime he doesn't get a job or maybe he's just not interested in managing at the moment

Betfair spin up IMO.
Manager by Sunday :)

According to sky sports news paul ince has been offered the blackburn job.Also riise's gone to roma, sidwell looking likey to go to villa and nasri agrees contract with gooners.

Ince annoucned eh, blow for the franchise...

Blackburn to be relegated imo.

LOL, how much?!

Just realised who had been promoted ;noflopshomer;

Damn was going to offer you say double or quits on our bet ? LOL

With McLaren going to FC Twente and Allardyce stating he no longer wishes to be considered for the job it looks like a straight race between Ince and Michael Laudrup.
I can't see the Rovers board going for Laudrup though as they would prefer someone with experience of the Premier League and you never know whether fancy-dan foreigners  could settle down in not so glamorous East Lancashire.
Couldn't stand Ince as a player, he was a dirty gobshite of the highest order but like Batty and Savage once they play for your team I suppose your perceptions of them change.
I don't understand why though that the Premier League says managers must have the UEFA pro license but don't enforce it as seems the case should Ince get the job, I can understand why Glen Roeder got special dispensation but why did Southgate and why should Ince?

Like Nakor I still have a feeling about Shearer even though he says he's not interested. It wouldn't be the first time he's gone back on his word.

Firstly the Glen Roeder situation was quite different to the others baring in mind he had nearly finished the course when he was diagnosed with a brain tumour and therefore was unable to finish the course and baring in mind you can't actually fail the course i think it was leniant but fair of the FA to give roeder dispensation.Secondly what are you on about with shearer?

He said he understood why Roeder got special treatment. And it is clear what he is on about regarding Shearer. I recommend you read posts twice before replying in future.

Shearer is a COCK end of!!!

I don't understand why anyone would want this bam near their club, haven't you heard some of the pish he spouts on MoTD and he has continually embarassed himself with his lack of knowledge during the Euros.

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I'd much rather have Ince as manager than Shearer if it was my club. 

Yeah you must know Ince so well. I mean he is on TV every day...


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Shearer will not take the BR job because he is too smart and too well advised to take a job that is a no-win situation imho.

When I say no-win, it is because Hughes has done such a terrific job and the best he could possibly do is as well as MH has done, which would mean that he would not get the same kind of plaudits as he would by taking over a club near the bottom of the PL or a good club with some finance in the Championship with a shot at promotion.

Yeah you must know Ince so well. I mean he is on TV every day...


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Did I say I did?  I think he has done a decent job with MK Dons and when I have heard him speak he normally talks sense. 

Obviously its difficult for me to be seen to give an impartial opinion on Alan Shearer, but I can't think of many people who are less likely to not go back on their word than him. The only possible thing you could pick up would be that he was supposed to finish playing the year before he did - shocking eh.

If you can't respect Alan Shearer's place in the football world you clearly must be mental.

I respect Shearer's place in football. As I respect Souness' as a great player, probably my favourite player for Liverpool ever. But like Souness, I've heard Shearer talk some right bollocks as a pundit.

Ron Atkinson FTW

David Pleat FTW

Very good point mate.  And probably as close a comparison as you could make, as much as i hate Souness there was no doubting his talent as a player.

Drives me insane.  I think sometimes he makes decent points but its the accent.  Where is he from?

I do apologise but i had misread it as him saying that he cant not he can invisible t for me i guess.No i dont think it's that clear what he was referring to about shearer and i still don't i guess my knowledge of him is not very good.However i dont see why you felt the need to get involved in the 1st place and be stroppy with me when it had **** all to do with you as i wasn't referring to your post.I do apologise to wader leg and hope he will be able to forgive me for mis-reading his post and i will do my utmost to make sure i read and re-read all posts correctly in future  :)up

As i still haven't found out from my further reading and re-reading of the thread can someone please explain to me what this remark about shearer was reffering to.Thanks

We're off on a tangent about his analysis/tactical knowledge rather than someone questioning his word. I'd still be interested in what he has gone back on his word from!

No offence taken Mondatoo. ;)

I'm referring to his " I'm staying at Rovers" statements.

After the 95-96 season rumours were rife that Shearer had a clause in his contract that let him speak to other clubs if they offered £15M for him and the press were linking him with moves to Man U, Newcastle or a move abroad. Just before Euro 96 Shearer gave an Interview to the local paper to quash the speculation and he said that he was going nowhere, he was pictured with the new strip for the 97 season and said he was hoping that it would be as successful as his previous Rovers shirts. Kids go and buy their new shirts and get Shearers name printed on the back safe in the knowledge that their hero will be playing for them for another season at least.
A month later and he's gone saying he wanted a fresh challenge and the lure of playing for his hometown club was too tempting.

Granted it's a long time ago and it's common behaviour for footballers of today but it's still rather deceitful wouldn't you agree?

I'd have to reread his autobiography to see if there is anything on that. I'm not too sure how much I'd believe of anything else in written form.

Off course he could just be an awful human being... that might be easier.

It was a huge shock to the football world that newcastle had the money to make this deal so i'd be pretty suprised if we were linked with him pre 96.I'm sure he didn't expect us to come in for him and although it is a shame that a few people had his name on there back and a month later he left i'm pretty sure they'll have forgot about that by know whereas i'm not sure he would've forgot about it if he had of turned us down and then never got to play for his hometown club.I also find it highly amusing when people state he made the wrong decision by choosing newcastle instead of man u as he never won nothing trust me he will not have 1 regret as would no newcastle fan,What would you rather, have been an absolute legend and regarded as 1 of the best players to ever play for your boyhood team have a bar under the ground named after you and basically having the freedom of the town(i think he may have this and it means he can take his sheep and stuff through the town centre,mint) or be another 1 of the many greats at a club that means nothing to you with a ton of medals to go with it.No choice imo

Cows not sheep. Though to be fair he could probably take a huggle of dodo's round town without anyone questioning it!! 

Ironically he does have the freedom of the city but can't actually go because its just not practical for him to get around.

I thought i was all flock, i'd originally put cows but it would've just been to easy set for Kev to come along ...

I was steering clear of pigs on the basis it could be linked to the bigg market!

Have you got to the page where he doesn't kick Neil Lennon in the head yet?

It was a tongue in cheek comment at the end of my post based on what I remember of the circumstances of him leaving. I didn't accuse him of robbing his own Granny FFS.
I shall make a note to provide video evidence and a signed witness statement next time I reminisce about him.

Anyway Ince has got the job so no doubt I'll have to read his autobiography to realise he wasn't a gobshite at all but one the best midfield generals ever to grace English football.

It's a funny old game...

WTF are sky sports on adding that Ince is the first black british manager in the PL?! Idiots.

everybody is stating that...and I'm having a tough time recalling another black british manager in the EPL to be fair...enlighten me Rooks, who was the first?

Argh, I know the answer to this one but I can't remember it. I always remember guessing Jean Tigana and that being wrong.

What's the point of these UEFA pro licences that all managers are supposed to have if people who don't have one are just told 'don't worry about - get one as soon as you have the time'

is coleman not black? certainly very dark

and chris hughton is deffo black

ince is however very possibly the first black british pl manager not to be called chris

Don't know Chris Hughton..just did a quick google and does indeed look black...though he played for R.O.I he is England born...so should qualify...oh wait..he managed Spurs...see, now it doesn't count...mainly because he was a coach and not a manager.

Coleman is Welsh..very much not black either.

Hughton was caretaker manager for Spurs a couple of times.

exactamundo

shit, i didn't notice the "british" part of the quote.

Ruud Gullit was first black manager in EPL.

Chris Hughton is mixed race ldo.

Who really cares imo? A load of bollocks.

+1 Ince is a promising young manager and he could do well with Blackburn. I think Blackburn took a chance on him as he hasn't managed such a big club before but the fact that he seems to be a good manager is in danger of being overshadowed by him being black.

GL to him.

Shouldnt all Paul Ince headlines today read  ''promising young manager Paul Ince'', rather than  ''promising young black manager Paul Ince''?

And that is said problem. I dont think anyone gives a toss about his colour, hes done a good job and deserves a crack, and good luck to him and blackburn, and tbh well done blackburn for giving an english manager a shot in the prem..

Yes, obv.

5/4 with Corals on Blackburn not to finish in Top 10 looks tasty.

Was hoping for 16/1 on relegation, but top is 14/1.

Im sorry Scott, but i think hes a terrible choice.

Big Sam wouldve been FTW.

john barnes-- newcastle?

Lol, I'll give you 20/1.

I'm not sure he can be described as a terrible choice, it'll definately be an interesting season though.

I'm guessing that you actually got that I wasn't questioning the fact they were stating (even if it is questionable) - I just really don't see the relevance to him being red white black or blue. I'm not a massive pc nutcase but surely its just such backward thinking that his race has even been reported with it, let alone be the lead headline of it.


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good point trigg

He was only a coach at Newcastle.  His first role as head coach was with Celtic.

I'll give you 25's!! 

tbh I'm not sure he was even that.

He was our top goal scorer in the season after we were runners up. Cheers Kenny. tool.

33s

LOL John Barnes was never a manager at the toon but funny post anyway

he was never a coach @ newcastle. levelled by trigg, shame bandit

I feel sorry for Blackburn - Ince said on Sky Sports this afternoon that John Barnes did a good job at Celtic. He should be sectioned not made manager.

lol. you're not wrong.

lol, wtf...

http://msn.football365.com/story/0,17033,13852_3913909,00.html

You cn get quite good prices on blackburn for the drop...

I'll give you any price you want

So you will take bets on a 1000-1 from anyone? Interesting..

Seriously ???

I will have £1 at 1,000,000-1, I will trfr you the money on stars if thats ok

min bet £1k

O look, now he gets scared...lol

ffs, now Warnock has asked to leave.....

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3971540,00.html

I'd love Warnock at Newcastle. Can't have been any left backs getting more MoM's than he did last season.

Very good player. We got a bargain at 1.5m. Somebody seemingly offered 2m, sounds ridic.

Sounds like Newcastle. 4m for a deal I think. I'd go for Warnock plus 1m for Duff if that was possible.

Never the most talented player, but works his balls off and I loved watching him when he was at Liverpool.  With the injuries he's had he deserves a lucky break (pardon the pun).

You are in deep sh*t now!

could have been

:'(