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Title: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 14, 2008, 11:46:17 PM
We are playing a home game the now.

situation, I shove from the button heads up and I get a call.  I have A 7 v K 8, first card out is an 8 then the once the turn is down we notice that the 8 is good but there is a 7 on the flop as well but its noticed at the river there are 4 burn cards down!

I give the option to

a) redeal the whole board
b)kepp the 8 and first burn card in play and play from there
c) take the chips back and start from scratch.

Obviously don't want any hassle, whats the best option here?

And what would you do?????




Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: Newmanseye on June 14, 2008, 11:54:36 PM
redeal. if you cant figure where the mistake was made its a redeal imho that is


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: doubleup on June 14, 2008, 11:57:07 PM
Yes if you arent sure that the board is right - reshuffle the burn cards, board and stub and redeal.


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: Newmanseye on June 15, 2008, 12:39:11 AM
Who won?


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: bhoywonder on June 15, 2008, 12:48:05 AM
Who won?

and where was my invite>?

lol


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: Newmanseye on June 15, 2008, 12:50:16 AM
hehe, I woke up at the computer and found my invite on my MSN window


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 15, 2008, 01:43:02 AM
Cheers guys.  I figured out the best option was to redeal, when that was done I won the hand.  And the fella who got gubbed wasn't happy but I gave a few options, it was only a friendly game but he went away in a huff.  We're still playing incidentally.

Bhoywonder - u not nightshift?

You'd have enjoyed it we where singing "hymns" !!!!


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: bhoywonder on June 15, 2008, 02:21:17 AM
Cheers guys.  I figured out the best option was to redeal, when that was done I won the hand.  And the fella who got gubbed wasn't happy but I gave a few options, it was only a friendly game but he went away in a huff.  We're still playing incidentally.

Bhoywonder - u not nightshift?

You'd have enjoyed it we where singing "hymns" !!!!

i was niteshift>

off tonight..how u know that>?

lol

miss the chanting already

i like a nice gregorian hymn of a saturday night



Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: seven2unsuited on June 15, 2008, 03:17:01 AM
u saw the misdeal on the flop, waited till the river to see if u could spike the ace then when you didn't you called a misdeal?  /:-| obviously it was not the dealers fault!


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 15, 2008, 03:33:29 AM
u saw the misdeal on the flop, waited till the river to see if u could spike the ace then when you didn't you called a misdeal?  /:-| obviously it was not the dealers fault!

who was the fkin dealer!!!!  sounds like a right nob, if you ask me.  burning 4 cards.    your task bonner is to print this off and show Ali G.


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: seven2unsuited on June 15, 2008, 03:34:54 AM
naw


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 15, 2008, 03:48:17 AM
Get to bed, your working in 6 hrs :)


Ohh I found that wee suprise I knew I had planked somewhere :)  Round the lot of ye!!!!!


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: thetank on June 15, 2008, 03:58:30 AM

 first card out is an 8 then the once the turn is down we notice that the 8 is good but there is a 7 on the flop as well but its noticed at the river there are 4 burn cards down!


Not sure what you're on about tbh. S'ppse in your haste to get it written, that can be forgiven.

Discovering, after the entire board had been dealt, that an extra card had been burned somewhere?
In a friendly home game, I'd vote to just let the board stand. Too much scope for angle shooting otherwise.

Hypothetically, you get yer pal to deal the cards in a big all-in coup. He deliberately burns an extra card. When you win, nothing is mentioned; when you lose, hey there's an extra burn card here,  re-deal.
Not suggesting for a moment that this is what happened, but it's why I'd always vote to let the board stand. It's five random cards innit?


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 15, 2008, 04:18:52 AM

 first card out is an 8 then the once the turn is down we notice that the 8 is good but there is a 7 on the flop as well but its noticed at the river there are 4 burn cards down!


Not sure what you're on about tbh. S'ppse in your haste to get it written, that can be forgiven.

Discovering, after the entire board had been dealt, that an extra card had been burned somewhere?
In a friendly home game, I'd vote to just let the board stand. Too much scope for angle shooting otherwise.

Hypothetically, you get yer pal to deal the cards in a big all-in coup. He deliberately burns an extra card. When you win, nothing is mentioned; when you lose, hey there's an extra burn card here,  re-deal.
Not suggesting for a moment that this is what happened, but it's why I'd always vote to let the board stand. It's five random cards innit?


I'd get where your coming from Thomas.   There was definintely no malice.  And everyone playing the game was pretty good mates, no angle shooting at all.

The situation as I see it is this, we don't know what that extra burn card was it could have been another 7 or an A giving me trips or a bigger 2 pair.  I offered the above options then the burn card were turned over, and when the fellas who had K 8 saw no 7 or A he wanted the borad to stand.  From my perspective, I f i loose the pot I still have chips and I am in pretty bad shape I am probably looking at a 70/30 chip diff if I loose. 

I would also have been happy to take the chips back and replay the whole hand.  it was relatively small stakes, but I don't think their was a solution that would have made both os us happy. 


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: relaedgc on June 15, 2008, 04:31:28 AM
I will find out the correct ruling. 99% sure that it isn't a complete redeal whatever it is.


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: scotty2hatty on June 15, 2008, 01:51:57 PM
Game abandoned. Drink beer.


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: seven2unsuited on June 15, 2008, 03:22:26 PM
i think the main problem is that the bandit threw the toys out the pram and would have chucked everyone out had he not won the hand, plus kept the beer in the fridge


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 15, 2008, 03:40:31 PM
i think the main problem is that the bandit threw the toys out the pram and would have chucked everyone out had he not won the hand, plus kept the beer in the fridge

Lol.  This is true and I still have some beer left that cheap shit Sandy brought with him is rotten though :(  I'm still going to drink them all at some point.

I-emailed Ali G with a few of the responses on this thread, and he's not happy.  He blames you :)


Title: Re: Urgent ruling please guys!!!!
Post by: Claw75 on June 15, 2008, 04:33:29 PM

I-emailed Ali G with a few of the responses on this thread, and he's not happy. 

uh oh - watch out for the westside massive.