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Don't know how to get the HH but last night on laddies the following hand came along (from memory)

I have c. $970 and remainder all vary $150 - $300

Dealt  Ac 5c 6c 7d

cant remember positions but ends up with all 5 in pot @$10 each

flop    7c 6d  3h 2c

two villains who are interested in flop have $250 and $320 respectively and it ends in a 3 way all in pot of c. $960

My thought were that they prob both have 54, poss one of them 22 with maybe a couple of clubs in at least one of their hands leaving me 2x7, 2x6 and somewhere between 4 - 8 clubs as outs. Even with 4 clubs at worst I was c. 33%

Was getting it all in a fair enough play?

Im getting it in hear, but im a gamblooooooooooor.

Agreed.

Would also like to know if you were in late position why you didn't pop it pre-flop?

I  can't remember the position I was in though this isn't a hand I would generally pop with pre flop (rightly or wrongly) as I'd prefer to see a flop (like this one) first

With 3 clubs in your hand? I'm aware of most hand values but don't tend to raise 3 of the same suit? Is this a leak?

If I have the Ace of that suit it's not a leak IMO. I am talking late position only, this is the sort of hand that is pretty well disguised and I would probably raise it pre-flop with this as you have a nice lower straight and a suited ace...I make them pay to play.

I am sure I will get slated for that though so don't worry if you don't :)

I suppose it makes sense in 6-max. You wouldn't be doing this in a full ring game though would you?

I only play 6 max omaha..I don't get people who play full ring Omaha at all anymore (unless it's live).

Why is that mate?

Boldie? Why dont you get people who play FR Omaha?

Sorry didn't see this question a little while ago.

Omaha (in my humble opinion) is a game that should be lose, fast action and plenty pots...full ring takes this away. If you go onto the blonde site right now (I'm using that as an example as that's what I'm logged into at the moment) you will see the average potsize on the full ring is as big as it is on the 6 handed.
Full ring the action is slow and people only play the nuts (or what they consider to be the nuts). I want people doing stupid things..and doing them a lot..you get that more 6 handed as people have to play more hands.

A567 is a raise for sure, i raise this in FR/6max from EP/MP/LP

Perhaps this is worthy of a thread of its own, but do you really have to play that many more hands in 6-max as opposed to FR? On another forum I used to visit Ed Miller was a guest there, and he mentioned at least once that he doesn't believe you need to play any more or any less at 6-max than you do at FR. Obviously we're discussing hold'em and not Omaha but surely the same principle will apply?

For me as a person I know I would struggle with the massive swings that you get in 6-max Omaha if I played at the same level buyin as at FR so FR is probably better suited at this moment in time.

Cheers for the reply.

I am pretty Lag (but don't tell anyone) in Omaha compared to others, so for me the question is not "do I play more hands six handed" for me the question is "Can I get others to play more hands" this is much easier 6 handed than it is FR as the 5 others on a table would be telling themselves "This guy is raising an awful lot, but you're only supposed to raise AAxx preflop in Omaha, aren't you?" and "He can't have Aces every time he raises so let's see some flops and see if I can hit them". This gives you a tremendous edge over those guys...the annoyance factor coupled with there being less cards actively in players hands (less players means less cards) means people are willing to take more risk..especially in Omaha which soo many people (including me obviously as I'm nowhere near a pro) play soo poorly. They play it like 4 card Hold Em...which is pretty much a sure fire way to losing all your cash.


I am not sure I put the above as well as I could have, I hope the general idea of it comes across though.

If Floppy, who is a pretty decent PLO player, (or anyone else for that matter) comes back I hope he can give an insight into this as I'm not the best at explaining this sort of stuff.

I'm gonna set up a new thread in the main forum to discuss this issue. See what people think about it. May be easier to follow.

It's all very dependent on the betting flop and turn imo.