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Title: Busto?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 28, 2008, 03:12:09 AM
We always going bust here?

PLO $1/$2 I-poker.

We have been playing SLAG.  But only ever getting to show down with big hands and passing shit to any resistance.  We have taken a few buy-ins from a number of players and we have around $700 after loosing a few decent pots to hero calling players.

We have KKQT ds flop comes down AKJ rainbow.  We're up against what we assume to be a fishy player who has been raising any pot we havent been involved in.  Sp with our hand on the button and our mate on BB we flat hoping for a raise.  Dually, our man pots and we pot behind he calls.  He half pots the flop. we call turn is a J he checks we lead for 1/4 the pot he pots it we snap call and its all in.  He has AA24 rivers a 5 he has nut house but given the way the hand plays are we always going busto here???? 



Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: boldie on June 28, 2008, 11:09:45 AM
We always going bust here?

PLO $1/$2 I-poker.

We have been playing SLAG.  But only ever getting to show down with big hands and passing shit to any resistance.  We have taken a few buy-ins from a number of players and we have around $700 after loosing a few decent pots to hero calling players.

We have KKQT ds flop comes down AKJ rainbow.  We're up against what we assume to be a fishy player who has been raising any pot we havent been involved in.  Sp with our hand on the button and our mate on BB we flat hoping for a raise.  Dually, our man pots and we pot behind he calls.  He half pots the flop. we call turn is a J he checks we lead for 1/4 the pot he pots it we snap call and its all in.  He has AA24 rivers a 5 he has nut house but given the way the hand plays are we always going busto here???? 



yes


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 28, 2008, 11:29:20 AM
We always going bust here?

PLO $1/$2 I-poker.

We have been playing SLAG.  But only ever getting to show down with big hands and passing shit to any resistance.  We have taken a few buy-ins from a number of players and we have around $700 after loosing a few decent pots to hero calling players.

We have KKQT ds flop comes down AKJ rainbow.  We're up against what we assume to be a fishy player who has been raising any pot we havent been involved in.  Sp with our hand on the button and our mate on BB we flat hoping for a raise.  Dually, our man pots and we pot behind he calls.  He half pots the flop. we call turn is a J he checks we lead for 1/4 the pot he pots it we snap call and its all in.  He has AA24 rivers a 5 he has nut house but given the way the hand plays are we always going busto here???? 



yes

Don't even know why i posted this lol!  I was pissed deposited £80 last night spun it uptp $900 and took 2 sick beats in 3 hands that sent me busto!

so sick.  I hate omahaha!


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: fidget on June 28, 2008, 01:45:46 PM
Yes but please reraise flop


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: Royal Flush on June 28, 2008, 04:00:05 PM
Yes but please reraise flop

Why?


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: fidget on June 28, 2008, 06:37:27 PM
Because he's fishy and we can try to get all the money in now.He's either there or thereabouts or air with this flop.
It depends how deep he is i suppose but there is at least $40 in preflop then he half pots it.If he's playing $300 more then i want to get more in on the flop.
I'm quite happy to be put right though


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: boldie on June 28, 2008, 06:49:51 PM
Because he's fishy and we can try to get all the money in now.He's either there or thereabouts or air with this flop.
It depends how deep he is i suppose but there is at least $40 in preflop then he half pots it.If he's playing $300 more then i want to get more in on the flop.
I'm quite happy to be put right though


You've got the stone cold nuts on a flop that isn't dangerous , what would the flop check raise say to him other then "I'm ahead mate better fold now?" Flatcalling his flop bet and checking the turn to him means he can bluff on the turn and keeps his weaker hand in.


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: fidget on June 28, 2008, 09:44:34 PM
we're on the button and we've been playing SLAG.
Stack size for villain would be helpful.


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 29, 2008, 03:25:09 PM
villan had around $500 he was down a fee buy ins and got vv lucky few hands previous


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: fidget on June 29, 2008, 04:53:43 PM
I'd definitely raise flop then.


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: cambo on June 29, 2008, 05:32:03 PM
lol thats just total losing poker madness, why would you want to give him a chance to fold? i just dont get it


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: boldie on June 29, 2008, 05:32:57 PM
I'd definitely raise flop then.

why would you raise on the flop if he has a 500 stack?


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 29, 2008, 05:36:17 PM
I'd definitely raise flop then.

why would you raise on the flop if he has a 500 stack?

Raising the flop wasn't an option.  I want to give him the opportunity to get all his stack in. 


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: fidget on June 29, 2008, 05:49:03 PM
Im pretty sure he would have - say he's flopped the nuts as well with no redraw- he can either get $500 in on the flop when u raise or maybe check pass the turn if it pairs up.
OP has been playing super lag so why should this reraise on the flop against a weak lead be the nuts? Op says villain is fishy and got lucky to get to $500 to lets give him opportunity to get daft. much less cash and its an obvious call on the flop


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: fidget on June 29, 2008, 07:58:36 PM
we're missing some of the action here for OP to make sense

limp from button bb pots hero repots and a call
so even if we allow for 2 limpers and sb completing there is only $60 max  in pre
flop action is half pot and a call so $120
turn goes check quarter pot pot and that takes villain allin?  so villain has <$180 left on turn and has only put $60 max in before this?
how have we got $500 each in given this action?
if there were no limpers it makes even less sense


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 29, 2008, 09:07:07 PM
I never copied direct from the hand history, given that I was pretty well oiled the figures may be a bit muddled but from mem. there were 5 limpers before the pot bet from matey. 

Still don't get why u want to raise the flop though?


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: SnipeR on June 30, 2008, 04:23:35 PM
We always going bust here?

PLO $1/$2 I-poker.

We have been playing SLAG.  But only ever getting to show down with big hands and passing shit to any resistance.  We have taken a few buy-ins from a number of players and we have around $700 after loosing a few decent pots to hero calling players.

We have KKQT ds flop comes down AKJ rainbow.  We're up against what we assume to be a fishy player who has been raising any pot we havent been involved in.  Sp with our hand on the button and our mate on BB we flat hoping for a raise.  Dually, our man pots and we pot behind he calls.  He half pots the flop. we call turn is a J he checks we lead for 1/4 the pot he pots it we snap call and its all in.  He has AA24 rivers a 5 he has nut house but given the way the hand plays are we always going busto here???? 



yes

+1


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: Horneris on June 30, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
We always going bust here?

PLO $1/$2 I-poker.

We have been playing SLAG.  But only ever getting to show down with big hands and passing shit to any resistance.  We have taken a few buy-ins from a number of players and we have around $700 after loosing a few decent pots to hero calling players.

We have KKQT ds flop comes down AKJ rainbow.  We're up against what we assume to be a fishy player who has been raising any pot we havent been involved in.  Sp with our hand on the button and our mate on BB we flat hoping for a raise.  Dually, our man pots and we pot behind he calls.  He half pots the flop. we call turn is a J he checks we lead for 1/4 the pot he pots it we snap call and its all in.  He has AA24 rivers a 5 he has nut house but given the way the hand plays are we always going busto here???? 



yes

+1

-4


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: SnipeR on June 30, 2008, 04:43:09 PM
+ all bar brent


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: fidget on July 04, 2008, 09:27:20 AM
 I still think its a raise on the flop and those of you who are adamant its "losing poker" to do so are missing something i think


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: Ironside on July 04, 2008, 09:37:48 AM
no point raising here you arent scared of any turn card

youm call the flop and make a small rereaise on turn

and you go broke


Title: Re: Busto?
Post by: fidget on July 04, 2008, 12:34:00 PM
no point raising here you arent scared of any turn card
No but he often is and theres so much more  money to get into the pot
plus as a Super Lag surely youve been repotting without the nuts?