Title: Advice wanted/needed Post by: smithy69 on November 08, 2005, 10:03:30 AM Hi guys/gals,
I need some help/advice/guidance. I would like to get into poker on a full time basis but NOT on a playing basis. Is there any way of doing this. Im currently a Sales manager and can sell sand to a arab (no offence meant). I am a decent writer and in all fairness would consider any ideas you guys may have. HELP Adam Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: AdamM on November 08, 2005, 12:43:49 PM as long as you don't go into poker shirts good luck.
Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: smithy69 on November 08, 2005, 01:03:17 PM I had an idea a while ago for a poker union. When people have trouble with sites - loss of money, connection probs - its always you against the machine.(betfair,Will Hill etc)
I had an idea about forming a company that would fight claims for you and get fair treatment for all players. Any ideas on this or is it a naff idea Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: The Truth on November 08, 2005, 01:06:46 PM Fight claims? There is no legal recourse on disconections etc.
Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: smithy69 on November 08, 2005, 01:08:08 PM so is my idea naff
Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: The Truth on November 08, 2005, 01:57:13 PM I would never rubbish anyones ideas. I would always advocate carrying out extensive research before embarking on any project (always advocate it don't always do it!).
Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: smithy69 on November 08, 2005, 02:02:43 PM i just think for the amount of money we pump into the sites, the customer service levels are terrible and we deserve more
Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: Heid on November 08, 2005, 02:07:33 PM i just think for the amount of money we pump into the sites, the customer service levels are terrible and we deserve more I don't think all are like that. I deal with lots of support mails in my job - a lot of the time the message that you send determine the outcome of your request. I spend a fair bit of my time trying to understand what it is people want me to do from their attempt to communicate their needs to me. In the vast majority of times I have had cause to contact a poker CS department, they have been very good - but I make sure I exaplain the issue really well and give as much info as possible. Not saying you don't but I think that that is a problem in a lot of cases :) Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: smithy69 on November 08, 2005, 02:20:25 PM Yes possibly but my best friend had a huge situation on will hill which he complained about
there were 2 of us watching him play high stakes omaha There was roughly 500 bucks in the middle preflop i think if i remember correctly the flop was 3 clubs and he had the ace and another club - He had flopped the nuts Someone bet the pot, and he couldnt bet because the site froze He emailed them and they accepted there was a problem at that exact time there end, so remembering there was now 1000 in the middle, and he had put roughly 200 in the middle already. Do you know what they refunded him due to there software issue - 100 bucks How can this be right Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: Heid on November 08, 2005, 02:23:37 PM Not saying it's right, in fact I expect your friend was very peeved about it, but software freezing isn't solely down to the software in a lot of cases - sometimes the pc has a hand in it as well :)
I'm just being Devil's Advocate here :) Yes possibly but my best friend had a huge situation on will hill which he complained about there were 2 of us watching him play high stakes omaha There was roughly 500 bucks in the middle preflop i think if i remember correctly the flop was 3 clubs and he had the ace and another club - He had flopped the nuts Someone bet the pot, and he couldnt bet because the site froze He emailed them and they accepted there was a problem at that exact time there end, so remembering there was now 1000 in the middle, and he had put roughly 200 in the middle already. Do you know what they refunded him due to there software issue - 100 bucks How can this be right Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: smithy69 on November 08, 2005, 02:25:05 PM Of course HEid, I understand that - all i meant was they accept the error was down to them, but dont refund the full amount. That is basically theft in my opinion
Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: Graham C on November 08, 2005, 02:26:40 PM just a point also re this idea - you'd be making yourself an enemy of the poker rooms. You'd be better off doing something that they would approve of
not sure what though Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: smithy69 on November 08, 2005, 02:30:08 PM If it makes money - im all ears
Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: Heid on November 08, 2005, 02:32:22 PM It's probably something in their T&C's ... When you go to the casino on Sat (Happy Birthday for then!), you'll see a little sign on each slot saying "malfunction voids all wins" or something along those lines, same process applies.
I'm not saying it is right, but it's how it is. Of course HEid, I understand that - all i meant was they accept the error was down to them, but dont refund the full amount. That is basically theft in my opinion Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: Graham C on November 08, 2005, 02:36:33 PM if you're good at sales and stuff alike, then why not organise your own poker room/tourneys? Not sure what's about near you but where I am, there is nothing around.
It's something I wouldn't mind having a go of round here - not sure how to go about it but I'm pretty sure that in Bracknell (where I am) there is nothing near and that it could be a goer, especially if you start small. Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: ifm on November 08, 2005, 02:39:44 PM The trouble is that even if it is their fault they would rarely admit it unless it's VERY obvious.
I had a problem on Betfair that cost me 550 euros and a very good chance of winning a seat to monte carlo, they didn't even bother to reply to my emails!!! There is little you can do in this situation, if they aren't bothered then they aren't bothered. I had 2 sponsored players talk to them directly about it, both were told it would be looked into but nothing, so someone totally from the outside won't have a better chance. Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: Sunday8pm on November 08, 2005, 09:08:17 PM i know a few guys who work as online live support for poker sites. They say its a fairly reasonable money and they work from home.
Now if i was wanting to go into poker full time but not necessarily play that much then this is the kind of thing id be looking to do to start off with Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: smithy69 on November 09, 2005, 08:49:57 AM With regards to this online support, has anyone got an idea of people I could speak to
Title: Re: Advice wanted/needed Post by: The Truth on November 09, 2005, 09:10:32 AM as an affiliate I have from time to time raised issues with the relevant poker manager. One good reason for opening your accounts with reputable affiliates who will actually work on your behalf.
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