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Title: I just folded the nuts Post by: byronkincaid on July 05, 2008, 04:48:33 PM $100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 05, 04:34:53 ET 2008 Table Bonito (Beginner) (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Seat 1: Sandbanks ( $114.60 USD ) Seat 3: Ronin87 ( $98.45 USD ) Seat 5: NaskoRivera ( $104.60 USD ) Seat 8: kkenkk ( $100.00 USD ) Seat 10: Me ( $190.00 USD ) NaskoRivera posts small blind [$0.50 USD]. kkenkk posts big blind [$1.00 USD]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Me [ Jd Ac ] Me raises [$4.00 USD] Sandbanks folds Ronin87 folds NaskoRivera calls [$3.50 USD] kkenkk folds ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, Kd, Qd ] NaskoRivera checks Me checks ** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ] NaskoRivera bets [$100.60 USD] Me folds NaskoRivera wins $109.15 USD from main pot 20/16/3.8 aggroish TAG, think I stacked him earlier Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: Compo on July 05, 2008, 04:53:15 PM It takes a very good player to do that. welcome to the club
Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: Longy on July 05, 2008, 04:56:03 PM Wat?????????
Ok seriously, is the arguement that he is freerolling ad xd to cover up what we make when it is chopped. We make $2.75 (assuming rake is $3) everytime we chop it and are risking 100.6 to make it. Sooo in theory if he has ad xd more that 1 in 40 times its correct. This is surely negated by the fact this is a bluff more than 1 in 40 times and therefore surely this is a call. Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: FuglyBaz on July 05, 2008, 04:57:43 PM Disconnection, or feeling generous? :D
That sucks man, hope I never knowingly fold the nuts Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: AlexMartin on July 05, 2008, 04:58:31 PM Wat????????? Ok seriously, is the arguement that he is freerolling ad xd to cover up what we make when it is chopped. We make $2.75 (assuming rake is $3) everytime we chop it and are risking 100.6 to make it. Sooo in theory if he has ad xd more that 1 in 40 times its correct. This is surely negated by the fact this is a bluff more than 1 in 40 times and therefore surely this is a call. show me the math here, this looks at first glance as wrong. Would do it myself now but im off out. Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: byronkincaid on July 05, 2008, 05:01:29 PM good TAGs bluff shove $100 to win $9?
Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: Longy on July 05, 2008, 05:11:43 PM Right there is 8.50 in the pot. If we call the rake will negate $3 of that i will assume it maybe less. So 5.50 in the middle.
We are risking 100.90 to win 2.75, if he never bluffs. 1 in 37 times is break even point, ofc villian can't akdd, aqdd or ajdd. As the board and us have them covered. So a10dd -a2dd must make up enough of his range of all possible ace holdings. Well yes they probably do, so assuming he NEVER bluffs it probably is correct fold. The intangiable bit is the fact that he bluffs a % of the time, would he jam 8c 9c here maybeeeee. I don't know my view is he bluffs enough here sometimes with hand that will beat approx 25% of the time. I don't have pokerstove at the moment and can't be arsed to download it on my mates comp. Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: Nem on July 06, 2008, 12:04:37 AM $100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 05, 04:34:53 ET 2008 Table Bonito (Beginner) (Real Money) lol Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: Graham C on July 06, 2008, 12:59:06 AM the complicated stuff Longy is saying. I've had this before, some guy shoved in for a full stack (can't remember if it was NL50 or NL100) but anyway, I obv called as I had the nuts too, and we both ended up making a loss on the hand because of the rake. Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: Colchester Kev on July 06, 2008, 01:13:35 AM the complicated stuff Longy is saying. I've had this before, some guy shoved in for a full stack (can't remember if it was NL50 or NL100) but anyway, I obv called as I had the nuts too, and we both ended up making a loss on the hand because of the rake. welcome to Omaha hi/lo cash ... anyone who plays this without a LOYALTY SCHEME is a mentalist. Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: Newmanseye on July 06, 2008, 01:19:14 AM the complicated stuff Longy is saying. I've had this before, some guy shoved in for a full stack (can't remember if it was NL50 or NL100) but anyway, I obv called as I had the nuts too, and we both ended up making a loss on the hand because of the rake. welcome to Omaha hi/lo cash ... anyone who plays this without a LOYALTY SCHEME is a mentalist. A loyalty Scheme like www.blondepoker.com perhaps? Title: Re: I just folded the nuts Post by: Jamier-Host on July 06, 2008, 05:32:04 PM show me the math here, this looks at first glance as wrong. Would do it myself now but don't know how. FYP ;) |