Title: cash hand Post by: AgentChip109 on July 07, 2008, 03:34:23 PM playin 1/2 live, sittin wiv 440. utg makes it 8, utg+1 (villain) calls, i am button wiv Ac Qs
my standard play is a reraise here but on this occasion i decide to just call. flop is Ahrt 7d 2h. utg bets out 15, next guy calls, i make it 40 more, utg thinks and folds. utg+1 insta calls. history on villain : has just played a hand similar on a draw heavy board, he called an initial bet and then insta called the sb check raise, and bet out strong when draw hit on river. we never saw the hand but can presume he made his draw on end. so my thoughts at thisd point he is on a draw turn 8c, he checks, i bet 85, he insta shoves for 220 more is this an easy call? wot can he have? thoughts?? Title: Re: cash hand Post by: boldie on July 07, 2008, 03:41:31 PM playin 1/2 live, sittin wiv 440. utg makes it 8, utg+1 (villain) calls, i am button wiv Ac Qs my standard play is a reraise here but on this occasion i decide to just call. flop is Ahrt 7d 2h. utg bets out 15, next guy calls, i make it 40 more, utg thinks and folds. utg+1 insta calls. history on villain : has just played a hand similar on a draw heavy board, he called an initial bet and then insta called the sb check raise, and bet out strong when draw hit on river. we never saw the hand but can presume he made his draw on end. so my thoughts at thisd point he is on a draw turn 8c, he checks, i bet 85, he insta shoves for 220 more is this an easy call? wot can he have? thoughts?? My main question would be; Why did you now flat call pre-flop? A bit of info on the Villein would be usefull, is he a nit or is he LAG and able to raise it up with any two? He he been gambling a bit? As the board isn't dangerous for either of you I doubt he has the draw here. Could have a set but that maybe is monster syndrome on my part. 78 hearts?..maybe. AJ rarely IMO. He could have AK here but then why would he flat pre? I reckon you're behind more often than not but it really all depends on the villain here when I decide what I do here. Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Nem on July 07, 2008, 03:50:27 PM Did you make it 55 or 40 on the flop?
Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Horneris on July 07, 2008, 03:52:41 PM He made it 55 on flop.
Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Nem on July 07, 2008, 03:59:24 PM This is a fold a lot of the time.
Also he isn't doing this with AJ unless he is drunk or retarded, or both. Title: Re: cash hand Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2008, 04:01:27 PM there's 168 in the pot post flop
you bet 85, he pushes for 220 so its 135 (220-135) to you into a pot of 338, 5/2 odds I suppose you're better than a 5/2 shot to be ahead if you include draws in his range, maybe AJ, A10 etc However I think he has a made hand like two pair, A7 maybe I think I'd make a crying call and wish I'd made it expensive pre Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Wardonkey on July 07, 2008, 05:07:46 PM set
Title: Re: cash hand Post by: AgentChip109 on July 07, 2008, 06:27:42 PM playin 1/2 live, sittin wiv 440. utg makes it 8, utg+1 (villain) calls, i am button wiv Ac Qs my standard play is a reraise here but on this occasion i decide to just call. flop is Ahrt 7d 2h. utg bets out 15, next guy calls, i make it 40 more, utg thinks and folds. utg+1 insta calls. history on villain : has just played a hand similar on a draw heavy board, he called an initial bet and then insta called the sb check raise, and bet out strong when draw hit on river. we never saw the hand but can presume he made his draw on end. so my thoughts at thisd point he is on a draw turn 8c, he checks, i bet 85, he insta shoves for 220 more is this an easy call? wot can he have? thoughts?? My main question would be; Why did you now flat call pre-flop? A bit of info on the Villein would be usefull, is he a nit or is he LAG and able to raise it up with any two? He he been gambling a bit? As the board isn't dangerous for either of you I doubt he has the draw here. Could have a set but that maybe is monster syndrome on my part. 78 hearts?..maybe. AJ rarely IMO. He could have AK here but then why would he flat pre? I reckon you're behind more often than not but it really all depends on the villain here when I decide what I do here. hey boldie yeah was gonna give more info but was at work and was rushing, so couldnt write all details opponent is LAG. has mentioned he is a professional gambler and travels the world gambling. he is on some major tilt after his 3 bet all in wiv 4d 7d was called by Qs Th on a 4c 7c Td to come 8c 8h to lose a $350 pot. but he has played this hand different and im now squirming in my seat yes i did make it 55 on flop Title: Re: cash hand Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 07, 2008, 06:32:11 PM Ad 2d ldo.
Title: Re: cash hand Post by: AlexMartin on July 08, 2008, 12:37:29 AM normally, here ur deffo beat. but depends on ur image and how he is responding to you. prolly a fold unless hes pisssssed.
Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Sunday8pm on July 08, 2008, 06:49:13 AM always 7h 3h here
Title: Re: cash hand Post by: AgentChip109 on July 08, 2008, 02:56:47 PM i ended up folding, though wasnt happy about it. he showed 3h 7h, so i guess he played the hand well.
Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Sunday8pm on July 09, 2008, 09:46:27 AM always 7h 3h here Title: Re: cash hand Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2008, 09:50:42 AM always last edit by Sunday8pm here Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Sunday8pm on July 09, 2008, 10:40:21 AM always last edit by Sunday8pm here Damn rumbled :( Title: Re: cash hand Post by: WYSINWYG on July 11, 2008, 01:33:12 PM playin 1/2 live, sittin wiv 440. utg makes it 8, utg+1 (villain) calls, i am button wiv Ac Qs The turn push is screaming pair flush draw yes. my standard play is a reraise here but on this occasion i decide to just call. flop is Ahrt 7d 2h. utg bets out 15, next guy calls, i make it 40 more, utg thinks and folds. utg+1 insta calls. history on villain : has just played a hand similar on a draw heavy board, he called an initial bet and then insta called the sb check raise, and bet out strong when draw hit on river. we never saw the hand but can presume he made his draw on end. so my thoughts at thisd point he is on a draw turn 8c, he checks, i bet 85, he insta shoves for 220 more is this an easy call? wot can he have? thoughts?? But in cash games I keep the pot small here because I only have a pair here. The best news about this hand is obv the two hearts on the flop, who is sitting there with a set that lets someone getting busy see a turn for cheap?? To my mind the thinking in villain goes: oh man this guy has an ace here but oh man am i strong on this flop, i should really reraise or push here (like in them tourneys) but man i have a flush draw too, and just middle pair, how can I not improve, let's wait for the turn bet it's a heart (TURN) oh **** it's not a heart! I still only have this smaller pair and there's only one card to come and what if it's not a heart, look at this pot now I want it so bad, but what if I bet on the turn and he shoves, let me just check see what happens, oh no he's bet! what if I call and don't hit? I just have the sevens! Best shove now. If you can put him on that, you can call. Given the hearts already there, and the danger they present, you can likely rule out a bigger hand than yours so maybe you should be the one shoving on the turn. The only exception to this is if the table thinks you a slag/drunk/donk/etc and they are prepared to give you a bit of rope even with two hearts and they have a set or suchlike. Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Royal Flush on July 11, 2008, 01:53:23 PM The only exception to this is if the table thinks you are a fyp Title: Re: cash hand Post by: WYSINWYG on July 11, 2008, 01:58:10 PM The only exception to this is if the table thinks you are a fyp I select my tables wisely and play with idiots. Title: Re: cash hand Post by: Royal Flush on July 11, 2008, 02:07:35 PM [X] Bad bad player raise sets just because there are 2 hearts out
[X] Good players realise the guy raising probably doesn't have a FD so set the trap with a set [X] Live micro stake players are all useless Title: Re: cash hand Post by: lucky_scrote on July 13, 2008, 02:50:33 PM If villain is a creative player then I call here, the fact he called a raise UTG+1 with 73sooted tells you a lot.
Title: Re: cash hand Post by: AlexMartin on July 13, 2008, 11:19:52 PM If villain is a creative player then I call here, the fact he called a raise UTG+1 with 73sooted tells you a lot. hindsight orientated analysis ftw worm ;) Title: Re: cash hand Post by: snoopy1239 on July 14, 2008, 09:29:03 PM I'd fold here, possibility of bluff is slim to range of hands that have you fucked. I would have checked the turn.
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