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Title: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: Tuffster on July 07, 2008, 08:26:48 PM
One I suck out, the other takes me out.

Only a $2 PLO SnG as I'm still a novice at this form, the question is did I play these hands badly, or did I just get lucky/unlucky?

Cheers

1st Hand:

Blinds 50/100, 5 of 6 players remaining, I'm UTG with 1210 remaining.

Hole Cards:  4s Qs Ks Kh

I pot it and get 3 callers (only SB folds).

Flop:  Qh Td Qd

BB Checks, Only 860, with a pot of 1450, so I go all-in.

Cut-Off calls, rest fold. CO turns over  Qc Ts x x for a full

Spike the  Kd for a better full (lucky fish)

2nd Hand:

Blinds 100/200, 3 of 6 remaining (Bubble-time), I'm on the BB with 3170, all 3 stacks even.

Button folds and serial raiser on SB raises it to 500, 300 to call into a 700 pot.

Hole cards:  3c 5d 6d 8d.

Flop comes  6s 7s 8c.

SB pots it for 1000, I have 2,670 left so with 2 pair and an open-ended, push all-in and get called. (I get 80 chips returned)

SB:  3h 4h Jc Js

Turn:  3s

River: 7d

So Jacks and sevens beats my eights and sevens. (why don't I get anything for 4-pair in Ohama!  ;angel;)

The question is, could I have played either of those two hands better, I'm pretty sure that the first hand pretty much played itself and I just got v. lucky, the second hand is more of an interesting one.

Was the pre-flop call too loose? Then given the 2-pair and draw, was the push unreasonable?

Or overall, should I not bother analysing a $2 PLO SnG as no-one involved (including me!) has the faintest idea how to play the game?

Cheers guys.

(Stands back and waits for everyone to flame me.)


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: cia260895 on July 07, 2008, 09:25:54 PM
ask holdorfold she is the expert on omaha. ;whistle;


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: Tuffster on July 07, 2008, 09:34:25 PM
ask holdorfold she is the expert on omaha. ;whistle;

How can you say that, she only made ONE mistake in the whole SnG!


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: booder on July 07, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
i agree with Flushy


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: cia260895 on July 08, 2008, 10:14:04 AM
ask holdorfold she is the expert on omaha. ;whistle;

How can you say that, she only made ONE mistake in the whole SnG!

exactly who better to ask??

i agree with Flushy

what did flushy say?


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: boldie on July 08, 2008, 10:35:04 AM
~Second hand on the bubble I reraise pre if I think original raiser will fold..but that was never going to happen here from the look of things.


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: FuglyBaz on July 08, 2008, 10:47:48 AM
I thought both were played relatively well. Just the luck, good and bad, of the cards :)


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: Royal Flush on July 08, 2008, 01:03:13 PM
First hand i play the same, 2nd hand i re-raise pre but given how you played it obv get it in on the flop.

i agree with Flushy


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: Tuffster on July 08, 2008, 01:17:56 PM
Cheers guys.

With hind-sight, agree, should really have pushed in the 2nd hand.

I'm a bit of a mathematician, so always have odds in mind. There's a plethora of Hold'em odds sites around, but does anyone know of one for Omaha? Also, how bad a shape would I have been pre if I'd got it all in? My complete guess would be about 60/40 ish dog.

Cheers


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: Royal Flush on July 08, 2008, 01:20:21 PM
Cheers guys.

With hind-sight, agree, should really have pushed in the 2nd hand.

I'm a bit of a mathematician, so always have odds in mind. There's a plethora of Hold'em odds sites around, but does anyone know of one for Omaha? Also, how bad a shape would I have been pre if I'd got it all in? My complete guess would be about 60/40 ish dog.

Cheers

Yeah around 60-40 is about right


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: RichEO on July 08, 2008, 03:08:49 PM
In a $2 STT I play them different. I'm looking to get a cheap flop and get my money in miles infront. I don't pot either hand pre.


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: Dubai on July 15, 2008, 04:17:26 AM
First hand i play the same, 2nd hand i re-raise pre but given how you played it obv get it in on the flop.

i agree with Flushy

Lol like you have fold equity in a $2 omaha sng you fish :) Re-raise pre because its fun, not because you wanna abuse a $4 bubble in a game where people (including myself) dont have a fold button


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: Royal Flush on July 15, 2008, 01:10:15 PM
First hand i play the same, 2nd hand i re-raise pre but given how you played it obv get it in on the flop.

i agree with Flushy

Lol like you have fold equity in a $2 omaha sng you fish :) Re-raise pre because its fun, not because you wanna abuse a $4 bubble in a game where people (including myself) dont have a fold button

I will defer to your judgement, you have far more experience in $2 games than me...


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: boldie on July 15, 2008, 01:11:43 PM
First hand i play the same, 2nd hand i re-raise pre but given how you played it obv get it in on the flop.

i agree with Flushy

Lol like you have fold equity in a $2 omaha sng you fish :) Re-raise pre because its fun, not because you wanna abuse a $4 bubble in a game where people (including myself) dont have a fold button

I will defer to your judgement, you have far more experience in $2 games than me...

rotflmfao


Title: Re: PLO SnG - 2 Hands
Post by: TheChipPrince on July 15, 2008, 02:03:39 PM
Cheers guys.

With hind-sight, agree, should really have pushed in the 2nd hand.

I'm a bit of a mathematician, so always have odds in mind. There's a plethora of Hold'em odds sites around, but does anyone know of one for Omaha? Also, how bad a shape would I have been pre if I'd got it all in? My complete guess would be about 60/40 ish dog.

Cheers

Tuffster, try this...

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_odds/omaha



As for the hands, the first absolutely fine, 2nd is marginal as whether re-raise or call, player preference... Only it flops, nothing you can do...