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Yo, not posted for a while cos I've been travelling. In Vegas at the mo' playing a mix of cash & tourney. Anyways...

Palms Casino - $1/$3 - 10 handed - been at table about 45 minutes, played quite tight but raised last 3 out of last 5 pots but also had to lay down aces in the previous hand. Usually though table seems pretty loose and weak, any raise is getting called by rubbish like K10o.

UTG+2 (not played many hands, so can presume tight player?) raises to $10

I'm sitting in CO with Ad Qd - I flat call. BB also calls.

Flop -  Kd Td 5c - $31 in pot

BB bets out $30, UTG+2 min-raises to $60. Both have me covered. I have $157 left. If I push, which is reasonable as I have 12 clean outs twice (4 Jacks, 8 for flush), do you think I also have fold equity here based on what I have left or do I need more info on how my opponents play first?

Not much, either first better pushes or raiser calls (tho he might not like it).

Lets assume the BB folds if you push (which you should, quickly, as Flushy would say ''insta snap-jam'')..   UTG+2 only has to call $97 to win $375, so no, you dont have any fold equity, well, unless he is totally bluffing with no pair no draw...

If the BB folds to a push and UTG+2 calls, why would you want to push here, given that all your outs are to the nuts? Surely you're better off flat-calling and hoping to get this all in 3 ways, even if that means putting the rest in on a missed turn.

Especially if he's drawing to a smaller flush.

;)

You don't have much but there is always some, cos people do daft things and your shove will look super strong.

With 12 clean outs we are anywhere between 35-45% to win this hand given we may find ourselves up against a set. With whats already in the pot and possibly a dead 30 or even better bb comes along for the ride, this is quite a trivial shove imo.

I duno, id shove and pray to the lord that they call.

haha, but yeh fistpump it in.

ya. I don't want FE, I want money

Lol exactly. Now never mention that again.   :redcard:

Cheers for that.

I did shove though thinking I'd be against the BBs KQ or JQ. I put the min-raiser (and original raiser pre-flop) on AK or possibly a set of 10s or Jacks cos he hasn't played many hands. Anyways, BB humps and haws and then reluctantly folds. UTG+2 calls almost immediately once he finds out it's $97 more.

We don't turn our hands over until the turn and river come out -  6h 9c - So I say "Your Ace-King wins mate" and then he tables  Jc Ts - I then said "Nice hand you played that well to him, you really caught me out there" cos I reloaded but actually I thought "You're a f*****g muppet".

Anybody call here with 2nd pair rubbish kicker in this spot even though it's only $97 more? I would have mucked it against a player who hasn't been out of line..

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just obv dont forget to get it in on turn, regardless of card.

I agree, im not looking for fold equity here either, I want all the money in 3 way

Prob best to flat the $60 raise then, as you might be inducing the original bettor to shove, thus creating better pot odds for yourself.

Problem comes if bb flats or folds, which is a lot more likely.

If we blank the turn we lose a lot of equity and may be a nasty spot if the board pairs. Also if we hit we might totally lose our customer as the 9 diamonds are deffo scare cards, making the pot alot smaller.

if you min re-raise again from $60 to $90 they both fold

Maybe, but is it worth your reputation?

Thing is OP is quite shallow stacked so i think hoping for folding equity is quite optimistic. Obviously we are not passing the hand  so maybe trying to get the hand 3 way to the turn would be optimal dont you think? I think we don't need to worry about reeling in a customer if we hit as we would only have $90 back and the pot would be $200+. Chances are a flush card could make somebody a pair + 4 flush, which they dont pass in live poker or even a 5 flush. And a Jack may well fill in those JT, KJ kinda hands.

Obviously shove is best as it turned the Q and A into outs!

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