Title: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Nem on July 19, 2008, 01:56:44 AM http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news...out180708.html
There has been substantial speculation in respect of the futures of Dimitar Berbatov and Robbie Keane, including press comment from both Sir Alex Ferguson and Rafa Benitez. In response our Chairman, Daniel Levy has made the following statement: "Today's public comments by Manchester United's manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players. It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date and is unbelievably hypocritical given his recent comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid. "This comes after a series of events, dating back to last summer, which have shown Manchester United to be in breach of Premier League (PL) rules. As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Manchester United. Benitez made similar comments in respect of Robbie recently and we made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Liverpool earlier this week. "The behaviour of both clubs has been disgraceful. We told both clubs very early on that we had no interest in selling Robbie or Dimitar, respectively, and that they should refrain from pursuing the player. Both clubs arrogantly chose to ignore this request and we now have evidence that both clubs have systematically been working to prise the players away from us, outside of PL rules of conduct. "Our subsequent position has been severely compromised by both clubs making their intentions widely known and indeed making contact with the players and their agents, without the Club's permission. "I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either. However, when a player's head is turned and their commitment is absent, particularly when they occupy key positions such as that of striker, they become a negative influence in a team dressing room in which they were once a positive addition and influence. This is the situation we now have on our hands, with both Dimitar and Robbie having made it clear that they wish to leave for Manchester Utd and Liverpool respectively. "Irrespective of the outcome and futures of Robbie and Dimitar, we are continuing to seek to bring in quality, talented players for the future, who want to play in a Spurs shirt." Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: maldini32 on July 19, 2008, 02:37:56 AM Didnt you lot tap up Bostock?
Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Nem on July 19, 2008, 04:07:30 AM Didnt you lot tap up Bostock? No. He was out of a contract and Spurs offered him one. For the sake of the league, something seriously has to be done. How can any of the teams trying to break into the top 4 compete if the top 4 can tap up ther players' and get away with it? I want a points reduction for both of them. Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: 77dave on July 19, 2008, 06:35:20 AM If UEFA do nothing to Real Madrid how can they do anything to Man Utd or Liverpool.
Surely Liverpool would have a greater case to answer in the Barry/Villa deal than the Keane/Spurs. Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: maldini32 on July 19, 2008, 10:56:16 AM Didnt you lot tap up Bostock? No. He was out of a contract and Spurs offered him one. For the sake of the league, something seriously has to be done. How can any of the teams trying to break into the top 4 compete if the top 4 can tap up ther players' and get away with it? I want a points reduction for both of them. Fair enough. FWIW i would much rather have Keane at Liverpool than Barry. The problem for rest of the premiership teams is that if one of the big 4 come in for a player, the player will wanna move more often than not and the clubs can't really do an awful lot (apart from hike the price up). Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Jim-D on July 19, 2008, 11:03:20 AM The differance between the Real/Ronaldo situation and the United/Berbatov one is that United have actually made a substantial bid to go along with the statement that they'd love to have him in there team, Ok i dont really like Ferguson coming out with the statements he has (and to be fair it is very unlike him as he generally keeps transfer talk in house) but atleast he's put the ball in spurs' court, tell us to fuck off or do the right thing and let the lad step up another level ;)
Oh and as for the Liverpool saga, I say deduction of 40 points should do the trick.... Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: The Baron on July 19, 2008, 11:34:59 AM I'm a bit lost. What's the problem. A manager saying "I would like this player - he's very good" to see if the player wants it or to help the player request a transfer has been a part of footall dealing for years.
Did Chelsea not do it for Gerrard twice in two summers when he was under contract to Liverpool? Levy should get over it - it's a part of the modern game. If Man U have to put up with it from someone then we all have to. Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: boldie on July 19, 2008, 11:44:22 AM ManU and Ferguson are hypocrites?...Not really a shocker there, is it?
UEFA can't do anything as they allow it when Real do it...personally though I think a 10 point deduction will sort the problem out very fast. Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: mondatoo on July 19, 2008, 11:55:10 AM [ ] The FA or UEFA will do something about this
[X] Every club does this now FACT Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: The Baron on July 19, 2008, 11:56:17 AM ManU and Ferguson are hypocrites?...Not really a shocker there, is it? UEFA can't do anything as they allow it when Real do it...personally though I think a 10 point deduction will sort the problem out very fast. Is it really a problem? Absolutely every club in the EPL has used comments or the press to help prize away a player from a smaller club. This isn't exactly a one off. Spurs are not an exception. It's all well and good saying Man U are hypocrites - but is anyone expecting me to believe Spurs haven't done it? From reading between the lines, Spurs are one of the biggest leakers of their transfer targets to the media. (I'm not denying Liverpool use the media massively too) Don't even get me started on Chimbonda leaving Wigan due to Spurs media tactics. Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Jim-D on July 19, 2008, 12:02:52 PM [X] Baron speaks a lot of sense.
Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Jim-D on July 19, 2008, 12:07:34 PM The reason I haven't been on here whineing and moaning about the tactics of Madrid is for the reason Baron states, it is and has been for a while part and parcel of modern football
Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: jizzemm on July 19, 2008, 12:13:54 PM The reason I haven't been on here whineing and moaning about the tactics of Madrid is for the reason Baron states, it is and has been for a while part and parcel of modern football +1 Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: boldie on July 19, 2008, 12:24:36 PM The reason I haven't been on here whineing and moaning about the tactics of Madrid is for the reason Baron states, it is and has been for a while part and parcel of modern football True, but that doesn't mean it should be acceptable. There is a discreet and decent way of doing business and this is not it. It might be part and parcel of football these days but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be stamped out. It's very bad for smaller clubs that bigger clubs act this way and the big clubs should be severely punished for it (in my opinion) Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Jim-D on July 19, 2008, 12:37:08 PM The reason I haven't been on here whineing and moaning about the tactics of Madrid is for the reason Baron states, it is and has been for a while part and parcel of modern football True, but that doesn't mean it should be acceptable. There is a discreet and decent way of doing business and this is not it. It might be part and parcel of football these days but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be stamped out. It's very bad for smaller clubs that bigger clubs act this way and the big clubs should be severely punished for it (in my opinion) The thing is 'Every' club would have to be punished, It's not fair to single out Liverpool, United & Madrid etc just because they fill more space in the media due to being 'bigger' clubs?! Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 19, 2008, 02:47:16 PM Its inevitable that big clubs will try and unsettle big players at wee clubs. Just get used to it Nem.
Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Nem on July 19, 2008, 04:55:42 PM Its inevitable that big clubs will try and unsettle big players at wee clubs. Just get used to it Nem. How many Celtic players' make Spurs' bench? Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 19, 2008, 05:02:04 PM Its inevitable that big clubs will try and unsettle big players at wee clubs. Just get used to it Nem. How many Celtic players' make Spurs' bench? How many Spurs players make the Champions League? Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Colchester Kev on July 19, 2008, 05:05:14 PM Its inevitable that big clubs will try and unsettle big players at wee clubs. Just get used to it Nem. How many Celtic players' make Spurs' bench? How many Spurs players make the Champions League? Thats not a bad comeback tbh Bandit :D :D Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Jim-D on July 19, 2008, 05:06:58 PM Its inevitable that big clubs will try and unsettle big players at wee clubs. Just get used to it Nem. How many Celtic players' make Spurs' bench? How many Spurs players make the Champions League? Love it :) Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Maxriddles on July 19, 2008, 06:46:32 PM [ ] The FA or UEFA will do something about this [X] Every club does this now FACT ;iagree; This is impossible to police and in my opinion impossible to stop. It happens at every level of football, it has always happened to some extent, and it always will. How can we stop it? We can't, fact. This doesn't make it right but it's all part of the game of football. Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: pokefast on July 19, 2008, 06:54:19 PM Ten point deduction and Alex Ferguson made to live in moss side imo.
Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Acidmouse on July 19, 2008, 09:22:28 PM It's the sheer arogance that pisses me off. They seem to think they can get away with it and they often do.
Chelsea tried to do it to Leeds stealing a few of our apprentices and paid a good sum out of court a year later. What happens if both players say they want to go? shame really. Can't believe i am agreeing with nem :) Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Hairydude on July 20, 2008, 11:34:50 AM Its inevitable that big clubs will try and unsettle big players at wee clubs. Just get used to it Nem. How many Celtic players' make Spurs' bench? How many Spurs players make the Champions League? REALLY REALLY REALLY Hate to admit I loved this comeback Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: 77dave on August 02, 2008, 08:39:18 AM Tottenham have been branded hypocrites for making 'tapping-up' claims against Manchester United and Liverpool.
Spurs made official complaints last month over the conduct of Manchester United and Liverpool in their respective pursuits of players Dimitar Berbatov and Robbie Keane. Yet the president of Spanish club Sevilla, Jose Maria Del Nido, claims Spurs' actions amount to "hypocrisy". Sevilla were unhappy about the manner of manager Juande Ramos' departure for White Hart Lane last season. Del Nido said: "It is hypocrisy personified Tottenham are complaining about things they have done themselves. "They took away our manager and now they are complaining that others are trying to take their players. "Their style is demonstrated by the way they contracted Ramos." Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Nem on August 02, 2008, 10:07:56 AM If Man U have to put up with it from someone then we all have to. [X] reality Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: sweet potata! on August 02, 2008, 11:48:07 AM When a BIG club like liverpool, comes knocking at your door it's standard that Keane would jump at the chance to play with better players ,at a bigger club, in the champions league .....
So i would imagine that uefa will do absolutely nothing and rightfully so , whats the big deal anyway?, its summer , that's kinda the best time to be signing players don't u think , its not like Rafa is calling a press conference and announcing " i want Robbie Keane" , obv something does be leaked then they ask Rafa and he gives an honest answer , no more than that As someone said its standard in football now , what annoys me though is Sir purple nose Fergie(Tap Up Merchant) crying about it when its done on him that is lol'able And surely it's some kind of wind up to say points should be docked? It's pure comedy gold that suggestion , cant be genuine though Title: Re: What should the Premier League/Uefa do? Post by: Rod Paradise on August 02, 2008, 01:35:41 PM Tottenham have been branded hypocrites for making 'tapping-up' claims against Manchester United and Liverpool. Spurs made official complaints last month over the conduct of Manchester United and Liverpool in their respective pursuits of players Dimitar Berbatov and Robbie Keane. Yet the president of Spanish club Sevilla, Jose Maria Del Nido, claims Spurs' actions amount to "hypocrisy". Sevilla were unhappy about the manner of manager Juande Ramos' departure for White Hart Lane last season. Del Nido said: "It is hypocrisy personified Tottenham are complaining about things they have done themselves. "They took away our manager and now they are complaining that others are trying to take their players. "Their style is demonstrated by the way they contracted Ramos." [ ] Rules against tapping up a manager. [X] Rules against tapping up a player. |