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Title: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: EvilPie on August 02, 2008, 01:50:39 PM
Playing the £20 rebuy at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) last night. I'm in for £100.

4 players left and the prizes are as follows:-

1st - £1736
2nd - £1042
3rd - £694
4th - £446

Total chips in play are 387000 and I have approx 110000 which means the deal gets me about £1050.

Blinds are 2000/4000 ante is 400 so there is still room to play.

I think I have an edge over 2 of the players and 1 I'm not too sure but he's sat to my right so I have position on him for now. One of the players seems to be in all in or don't bother mode and he's got plenty of chips so he's a danger.

I'm confident of getting at least 3rd place and all night I've been very much playing for the win but would now be a good time to deal given the figures? Essentially I think I'm gambling £250 for the chance of winning an extra £700.

Mathematically what's the most +EV thing to do?


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: boldie on August 02, 2008, 01:53:13 PM
big stacks are favoured by a DtD style chop..so it's almost never a bad idea to take it when you have almost 1/3rd of the chips in play.

If you're CL with less than 25BBs with 4 players left means there isn't really lots of play left. I'd probably take the 1100 here depending on the other stack sizes (if two others are ridiculously short i obviously don't deal here)


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: snoopy1239 on August 02, 2008, 01:54:04 PM
Thickly veiled "I won some wonga! Woohoo!" post if you ask me.


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: Ironside on August 02, 2008, 01:54:38 PM
you might be confident of getting 3rd but poker sometimes bites u on the ass

you are guarenteed 2nd place money in this deal you might get 3rd and get less in the deal

i would more than likely take the deal as it stands


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: Longy on August 02, 2008, 02:08:26 PM
If you have an edge over the rest of the table and we aren't at crapshoot leve though not super deep. You can stick any deal up your backside as far as im concerned.



Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: kinboshi on August 02, 2008, 02:10:43 PM
Thickly veiled "I won some wonga! Woohoo!" post if you ask me.

Blatant brag post - no thinly veiled about it.

I do have a complaint about DTD. They shouldn't put lights above Matt's head - the reflection off his shiny bonce was blinding us all on the cash table sitting a good 50 feet away.


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: EvilPie on August 02, 2008, 02:20:04 PM
Thickly veiled "I won some wonga! Woohoo!" post if you ask me.

Blatant brag post - no thinly veiled about it.

I do have a complaint about DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/). They shouldn't put lights above Matt's head - the reflection off his shiny bonce was blinding us all on the cash table sitting a good 50 feet away.

Barred!!!!!

No complaints allowed!!!


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: EvilPie on August 02, 2008, 02:26:03 PM
Thickly veiled "I won some wonga! Woohoo!" post if you ask me.

It would've been if I took the deal because I would've got 1st place and £1050.

As it was I got 3rd for £694. At least it pays for the £300 tonight.

It only took 3 hands after the deal was turned down that I started to think I may have made a mistake. I was getting more than 2nd place money and there was at least one player that I possibly didn't have an edge over. Another was playing it like a crapshoot even though it didn't need to be.

Circumstances may have made the deal a good idea.

Obviously if I'd won I would've thought I was the best deal turndownerer ever.  ;D


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: MANTIS01 on August 02, 2008, 04:14:52 PM
Posted by: EvilPie
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It only took 3 hands after the deal was turned down that I started to think I may have made a mistake.

I think that could be the mistake


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: EvilPie on August 02, 2008, 06:33:24 PM
Posted by: EvilPie
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It only took 3 hands after the deal was turned down that I started to think I may have made a mistake.

I think that could be the mistake

Good point Mr Freud.

Seriously, it didn't affect my game at all I was after the win and that was that. The reason it was 3 hands later is that I lost a big pot and all of a sudden my edge had disappeared  ;D


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: Dewi_cool on August 02, 2008, 06:41:38 PM
based on all info, YES


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: MANTIS01 on August 02, 2008, 06:57:47 PM
Posted by: EvilPie
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It only took 3 hands after the deal was turned down that I started to think I may have made a mistake.

I think that could be the mistake

Good point Mr Freud.

Seriously, it didn't affect my game at all I was after the win and that was that. The reason it was 3 hands later is that I lost a big pot and all of a sudden my edge had disappeared  ;D

lol ok. But it's like on Deal Or No Deal when they deal for like 20k then take out loads of blues and start crying and stuff when they find 250k in their box. I tilt badly when I see this. You don't know what is going to happen after you say no deal so loosing a hand later doesn't have any bearing on the validity of that original decision. Considering you came 3rd I would have dealt :)


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: boldie on August 02, 2008, 11:56:15 PM
Posted by: EvilPie
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It only took 3 hands after the deal was turned down that I started to think I may have made a mistake.

I think that could be the mistake

Good point Mr Freud.

Seriously, it didn't affect my game at all I was after the win and that was that. The reason it was 3 hands later is that I lost a big pot and all of a sudden my edge had disappeared  ;D

Wait a minute, so your edge was that you had more chips?...that doesn't mean you have an edge, that just means you have more chips ;)


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: ItsMrAlex2u on August 03, 2008, 10:13:40 AM
surely more chips is an edge? (although admittedly thats not what I thought was meant before either)


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: boldie on August 03, 2008, 11:33:44 AM
surely more chips is an edge? (although admittedly thats not what I thought was meant before either)

Yeah it is, but it's not an edge in the way I would expect someone to say "I have an edge over this field" on a PHA board.


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: kinboshi on August 03, 2008, 11:40:06 AM
No, Matt thought he had the edge skill-wise. 


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: boldie on August 03, 2008, 11:46:47 AM
No, Matt thought he had the edge skill-wise. 

Knowing when you don't have an edge is an edge in itself ;)


Title: Re: Should I have took the deal?
Post by: kinboshi on August 03, 2008, 11:57:17 AM
No, Matt thought he had the edge skill-wise. 

Knowing when you don't have an edge is an edge in itself ;)

I think he was right, but isn't that why people do deals because of the volatility of the situation on a final table?