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Title: Do You Call Here? Post by: seven2unsuited on August 05, 2008, 03:00:06 AM 25 left in about 14th place at moment
PokerStars Game #19366988188: Tournament #99190690, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2008/08/04 - 21:49:46 (ET) Table '99190690 90' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: Poker M (71551 in chips) Seat 2: Nocturnick (55045 in chips) Seat 3: loonatic111 (47650 in chips) Seat 5: El ibero (205020 in chips) Seat 6: ComeUpKid (188497 in chips) Seat 7: myheim (202665 in chips) Seat 8: josepebhoy (171644 in chips) Seat 9: HULAGULA (203946 in chips) Poker M: posts the ante 500 Nocturnick: posts the ante 500 loonatic111: posts the ante 500 El ibero: posts the ante 500 ComeUpKid: posts the ante 500 myheim: posts the ante 500 josepebhoy: posts the ante 500 HULAGULA: posts the ante 500 El ibero: posts small blind 2500 ComeUpKid: posts big blind 5000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to josepebhoy [Jc As] myheim: folds josepebhoy: raises 10000 to 15000 HULAGULA: folds Poker M: folds Nocturnick: folds loonatic111: folds El ibero: folds ComeUpKid: raises 30000 to 45000 josepebhoy: calls 30000 *** FLOP *** [td 9d 8s] ComeUpKid: bets 142997 and is all-in Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: Royal Flush on August 05, 2008, 03:13:02 AM 25 left in about 14th place at moment PokerStars Game #19366988188: Tournament #99190690, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2008/08/04 - 21:49:46 (ET) Table '99190690 90' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: Poker M (71551 in chips) Seat 2: Nocturnick (55045 in chips) Seat 3: loonatic111 (47650 in chips) Seat 5: El ibero (205020 in chips) Seat 6: ComeUpKid (188497 in chips) Seat 7: myheim (202665 in chips) Seat 8: josepebhoy (171644 in chips) Seat 9: HULAGULA (203946 in chips) Poker M: posts the ante 500 Nocturnick: posts the ante 500 loonatic111: posts the ante 500 El ibero: posts the ante 500 ComeUpKid: posts the ante 500 myheim: posts the ante 500 josepebhoy: posts the ante 500 HULAGULA: posts the ante 500 El ibero: posts small blind 2500 ComeUpKid: posts big blind 5000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to josepebhoy [Jc As] myheim: folds josepebhoy: raises 10000 to 15000 HULAGULA: folds Poker M: folds Nocturnick: folds loonatic111: folds El ibero: folds ComeUpKid: raises 30000 to 45000 josepebhoy: calls 30000 *** FLOP *** [td 9d 8s] ComeUpKid: bets 142997 and is all-in Fold or shove pre Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: Longy on August 05, 2008, 04:48:08 AM Yeah fold shove or pre, you are too shallow post flop to gain any advantage by calling with a hand like aj. You have managed to illustrate perfectly in this hand.
As played i think we have to call with a straight draw and overs (though one or both them are often going to be useless), we are likely to have around 40% equity agains villains range. Which is enough to call. Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: AlexMartin on August 05, 2008, 04:49:01 AM 100k in pot, he shoves for 140k. stick in reasonable ranges into pokerstove and hurrah, snap call.
but preflop is rough and probably a fold. Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: AlexMartin on August 05, 2008, 04:49:50 AM Yeah fold shove or pre, you are too shallow post flop to gain any advantage by calling with a hand like aj. You have managed to illustrate perfectly in this hand. As played i think we have to call with a straight draw and overs (though one or both them are often going to be useless), we are likely to have around 40% equity agains villains range. Which is enough to call. dammnit im beginning to think we were given the same brain. (UL m8) Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: Longy on August 05, 2008, 04:51:50 AM Yeah fold shove or pre, you are too shallow post flop to gain any advantage by calling with a hand like aj. You have managed to illustrate perfectly in this hand. As played i think we have to call with a straight draw and overs (though one or both them are often going to be useless), we are likely to have around 40% equity agains villains range. Which is enough to call. dammnit im beginning to think we were given the same brain. (UL m8) Sigh you have my sympathies Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: seven2unsuited on August 05, 2008, 10:24:35 AM Ye Pre flop was messy and i need to look at the way i play around this stage of tournies in the future. But i did call seemed a nice opportunity to get a stack to challenge FTW
josepebhoy: calls 126144 and is all-in Uncalled bet (16853) returned to ComeUpKid *** TURN *** [td 9d 8s] [7s] *** RIVER *** [td 9d 8s 7s] [4d] *** SHOW DOWN *** ComeUpKid: shows [Kd Kc] (a pair of Kings) josepebhoy: shows [Jc As] (a straight, Seven to Jack) ComeUpKid said, "fk that" josepebhoy collected 348788 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 348788 | Rake 0 Board [td 9d 8s 7s 4d] Seat 1: Poker M folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: Nocturnick folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: loonatic111 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: El ibero (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 6: ComeUpKid (big blind) showed [Kd Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings Seat 7: myheim folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: josepebhoy showed [Jc As] and won (348788) with a straight, Seven to Jack Seat 9: HULAGULA folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: seven2unsuited on August 05, 2008, 10:31:26 AM nother hand this guy has raised from same spot in last 3 orbits, i have managed to nick blinds once or twice in that time. What range do you need to push here?
PokerStars Game #19370047003: Tournament #99190690, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (20000/40000) - 2008/08/05 - 00:07:43 (ET) Table '99190690 11' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: BrokenTPot (1846891 in chips) Seat 2: josepebhoy (215976 in chips) Seat 4: loonatic111 (565000 in chips) Seat 5: llindeberg_ (429032 in chips) Seat 6: sakweight (561101 in chips) BrokenTPot: posts the ante 4000 josepebhoy: posts the ante 4000 loonatic111: posts the ante 4000 llindeberg_: posts the ante 4000 sakweight: posts the ante 4000 josepebhoy: posts small blind 20000 loonatic111: posts big blind 40000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to josepebhoy [X X] llindeberg_: folds sakweight: raises 55000 to 95000 BrokenTPot: folds Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: TheChipPrince on August 05, 2008, 11:26:35 AM nother hand this guy has raised from same spot in last 3 orbits, i have managed to nick blinds once or twice in that time. What range do you need to push here? PokerStars Game #19370047003: Tournament #99190690, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (20000/40000) - 2008/08/05 - 00:07:43 (ET) Table '99190690 11' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: BrokenTPot (1846891 in chips) Seat 2: josepebhoy (215976 in chips) Seat 4: loonatic111 (565000 in chips) Seat 5: llindeberg_ (429032 in chips) Seat 6: sakweight (561101 in chips) BrokenTPot: posts the ante 4000 josepebhoy: posts the ante 4000 loonatic111: posts the ante 4000 llindeberg_: posts the ante 4000 sakweight: posts the ante 4000 josepebhoy: posts small blind 20000 loonatic111: posts big blind 40000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to josepebhoy [X X] llindeberg_: folds sakweight: raises 55000 to 95000 BrokenTPot: folds With the odds you'd be giving him to call he's calling every push you make so pointless doing it with a hand... A 10+/A 9sooted+/77+ Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 05, 2008, 08:56:26 PM Nice result mate!
Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: Rupert on August 05, 2008, 11:19:42 PM Fuck it i'm shoving any 2. I'm on tilt for not having any reads despite playing for 5 hours and accumulating a decent sized stack. Just played every hand in a vacuum. Thats right. All in son
Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: AlexMartin on August 05, 2008, 11:40:56 PM Fuck it i'm shoving any 2. I'm on tilt for not having any reads despite playing for 5 hours and accumulating a decent sized stack. Just played every hand in a vacuum. Thats right. All in son hahahahah, quality. I am actually gonna memorise that lot and sing it while tilt shoving in a live comp. OP, you need a hand here and ChipRich's range looks spot on. Title: Re: Do You Call Here? Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 05, 2008, 11:56:41 PM I'm with the majority its a shove pre or pass. AJ is not hand to be getting tricky with.
As played u must call now and hope you still have outs. As shown it did :) |