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Played at Luton tonight, was the £50 + £50 add one re-buy or add-on. 30 runners approx, started 5 handed as guy to my right hadn't turned up but his ticket was there and was being blinded away. Anyway, first 15 mins or, table had a nice atmosphere, plenty of chat and light-heartedness etc. THEN, Mr latecomer turns. Now, as far as i was aware Luton brought a rule when they opened the new casino regarding trainers, it's been well documented on blonde and is being discussed currently i think on the BB thread. This guy turns up, unshaven, shirt hanging out, scruffy jeans and WHITE (ish) trainers ffs. Also, im not sure but im sure i could smell alcohol from him, either that or some dodgy cheap aftershave. Hope it was his aftershave as he had just proclaimed to the table that he had driven like a maniac from Milton Keynes to get there. ( i wish he hadn't bothered, and i'm sure the rest of the table hadn't either).

I had just lost the majority of my first stack and had 400 chips left. The blinds were 25-50 and the villain makes an EP raise to 225. I look at one card (ace) and decided to put my 400 in the middle. It folds round to the villain who hums and hah's ohh i might fold blah blah, any way eventually he calls with 66 and fistpumps the 6 on the flop ffs.

Now im annoyed. My 2nd lot of chips are down to 3800 and i have to fold JJ to the villains all in bet on a A K 9 flop. He shows QQ. Fair enough. Well played.

Then, for me the worst thing. He has an accomplice who is playing on the other table!!! This become apparent when he makes another EP raise to 300 so i instashove my AK hearts, again it folds round to him and he has a think, i know im in front etc he is saying, usual trash talk. So eventually he calls and tables 22, i turn over my AK and we are off to the races. flop 9A9, at this point his friend is right on my shoulder and i can here him chanting for the deuce. turn blank, river 2!!! Now i'm not a bad loser, never have been but when the deuce hit the river i could clearly hear his mate laughing right in my ear. I dont know how i kept my cool to be honest. He offered me a handshake and the usually 'unlucky mate' bollocks and i'm sorry. Of course you are my friend.

Never mind, i head straight to the smoking cage to have a cigarette to try and calm myself down. I go back in and the remaining players are milling around on a break when the villains friend comes up to me to ask me how many chips i have????? Ffs give me a break, do i need that sort of rubdown? I think not.

Has anyone else ever experienced this sort of crap? Am i over reacting? I've never been this annoyed after a poker game, which for me should be a bit of fun. But to be honest, i'm seriously considering never going back to Luton whilst they allow these type of individuals into the casino.

I managed to get a sneaky photo of them on my phone and will download as soon as i work out how to do it ( if thats ok with the mods?) to see if anyone know who they are or have come accross them before.

Rant over!!!!

So how many chips did you have left?

This is the kind of thing I've come to expect from the Luton 'G', letting borderline tramps in, despite the no-trainer rule being strenuously enforced all last week. There's just no consistency.
During the festival anyone turning up in trainers was told they had to go to Matalan to pick up a pair of shoes.
This guy tonight, though, seemed to get the wrong end of the stick. He'd clearly been to Matalan but had replaced all other articles of clothing and kept the trainers. I will be lodging a complaint.
The standard of play was awful too. Here's my exit hand...
Blinds just gone up to 200-400, I was small blind, had 5,600 back.
Villain Mk II, who had around 7,000, limped mid, button limped, I made up the blind with J3, BB checked.
Flop came 3 7 9 rainbow. I checked, as did the other three.
Turn came a J. Nice!
I check it knowing it's never going to get checked round again. BB checked, Villain Mk II bet 1200, button passed.
I bet 2800, leaving back 2800.
BB folds
VMII has a good think and then shoves with QQ.
The river was a 9.
The trainer-wearing fella's words of 'Unlucky Chompy' offered scant consolation.

sorry, 1800

Sorry guys but I think what he was wearing is irrelevant, it's between him and Grosvenor.

The fact that he played badly and got lucky is also irrelevant. (MHO of course)

was more his and his friends behaviour. If you let people in dressed like this then Grosvenor are asking for trouble IMO.

If he was a didicoy, that's also irrelevant.

yeah, what does a didcoy mean?

was more his and his friends behaviour


I agree about the behaviour, but not the other stuff.

Tom,

i was told by the management at luton when it 1st opened that under no circumstance would anyone be allowed in with footwear that even looked like trainers, because and i qoute 'people that wear trainers normally bring trouble with them' Well they certainly let trouble in tonight, thats for sure!!!

They even refused snatty entrance once cos he wore some footwear that looked like trainers, so why the sudden rule change after 18 months. Disgusts me. Ruined my night, thats a certainty!!!!

I don't see why what someone else is wearing should bother you. Do you refuse to play in other cardrooms where trainers are allowed?

In all honesty, would you have even mentioned it if the guy hadn't knocked you out, if you had won your race and gone on to win the comp? I think not.

Sorry, but you did specifically ask for opinions.

i wouldnt have mentioned it if his and his mate weren't giving me rubdowns etc. i lose races all the time. it doesnt bother me, it never will, if i would have knocked him out the tourney i would have still come on tonight and moaned about them. Simple as that really.

As poker players we shouldn't have to put up with this type of behaviour IMO.

With regards to his clothing then i don't see why Grosvenor suddenly let this type of person in wearing clothing that they feel is worn by trouble makers. Just my opinion of course.

vote with your feet

With respect. I said I agree about the behaviour, but the clothing is irrelevant, as are the outdraws, but those two points constituted a fairly large proportion of your original rant.

along with the rest of the card room if these two keep turning up i think.

i only mentioned them as they were relevant to their behaviour i thought.

 I wore shoes to Luton last week because of the rule and i hate wearing shoes but rule are rules and need to be obeyed!!!!! or do they..
I play on day 1b and i am amazed how many lads are wearing trainers and I go to see management for clarification only to be told that trainers are not allowed in the card room, so I asked why there was at least 15 people wearing trainers in the card room to be informed that they cant police it 100%, then why have the bloody rule if theres going to be inconsistencies?. I was also amazed that the cooks carried 3 large bags of stinking garbage through the card room during the 2nd level of play. Unless it's a festival then I wont bother playing there again.

that was the buffet...

 ;tightend;

I did ask the cook if we were having bubble and squeak but he didnt look yo impressed  :o

wow, are you serious? G not sticking 100% to their rule on trainers disgusts you and ruined your night? I hate to think what things that actually matter might do to you.

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wow, are you serious? G not sticking 100% to their rule on trainers disgusts you and ruined your night? I hate to think what things that actually matter might do to you.
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Well with all due respect surely it's the principal here? It's the small things that get to people, you know the kind of stuff I mean, for example you stand in a queue for hours, the sign says no queue jumping then whoosh you get 1 person goes marching on through, then another, then some more, so you try and you get grabbed and smartly marched to the back of the queue two hours further back than where you was in the first place.

This kind of thing can cause anarchy, trust me.

We should have some compassion - it's an age thing....http://www.agingcarefl.org/caregiver/resources/wandering

This guy and his ignorant friend have really got under your skin. This is something you can control. The fact he is wearing trainers is not something you can control. You may have valid points about everything. But your objections wont help you play better poker.

was just trying to be descriptive in my post and set the scene etc.

relax mate imo

yeah, have to say chill Vinny m8. Tell his m8 to fuck off as soon as he starts asking for a deuce though. 100%. Point me out, ill add him to my slowroll list.

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(x)  NOT

pmsl @ a slowroll list.

Sounds like these two individuals were obviously on drugs.  Viagra most probably.

I just think TK and Compo should be banned for their behaviour.

 ;laxie;

Cheers Alex, I knew you would understand mate. Anyway these are the two you need to look out for next time...............

pmsl at whole thread!!!

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Ask Compo about moving in on someone with the nuts   rotflmfao

However witnessed one of the worst calls for a while....george micheal...need i say more..me and him FT..me chip leader him 2nd CL..me + 1 K K..i standard raise to 6K and he re raises another 10K..any one who knows george micheal knows his penchant for an ace irrelevant of kicker..i know what his got and i contemplate flat calling ..no ace and im good.....but i decide to 4 bet it for the farm...another 30K on top...a full 5 second dwell and he calls..with A J o/s.....FUCK MY OLD BOOTS !!! WHAT KIND OF CALL IS THAT..STACKING OFF OVER 40k WITH AJ TO A 4 BET...I MEAN CMON..WHATS HE THINK IVE GOT A 10 FFS...OBV ACE ON FLOP...

MY EYES ARE STILL MISTED NOW..........

3-betting to 16K and folding to a 46K jam would be pretty terrible.

+1, no problem at all with his call there.

Outplayed again imo

Im sorry...learn to fold a hand...

Folding is boring, sucking out on someone is soo much more fun :)

But not profitable in the long run..if u stack off whilst running 2nd in the face of obv strength with AJ i wish u the best

All this calling for people to be banned and suggesting boycotts for trivial stuff like this is akin to football players motioning to the ref to give someone a card...

:)

Ooooh, I hate it when that happens. Well, to be honest, I just hate 92.5% of all professional footballers.

;laxie; rotflmfao

+1

FYP

Great thread

i suggest maybe growing up ffs, how long have you been playing poker live? If you are going on life tilt for someones footwear and a rowdy railer I would hate to see what happens in a bad situation.

I think the popularity of internet poker is impacting the live game. A lot of people don't know how to conduct themselves at the best of times. But bedroom-dwellers who shout sick very loudly at the screen all the time are clearly going to struggle out in the real world. To try and change morons into creatures of dignity would be impossible. So this is why I say that live poker is a test. Can you retain your dignity and character in the face of adversity and provocation?

celtic, you would not be chanting deuce, deuce and you wouldn't behave like these kids. Anyone who understands poker will see the gulf in character between you and them. Conducting yourself with dignity in spite of the aggrivation sees you walk away from the poker table as the clear winner whether the deuce falls or not.

quoted for awesomeness

it is a beaut.

It would appear even tapping the aquarium is safe these days!

When Luton G first opened a man in a wheelchair was refused entrance by the general manager. His stance was well if we have a rule it has to be in place for everyone.

He's been rivered not dry fucked

Does Luton have a rule against dry fucking?  Is it three strokes and you're out?

WTF?  What a bastard. I would have him arrested for that alone  :tikay:

they have a defo no lube policy

thats why poppers are so popular

[ X ] pleased I read the whole thread before replying.

I have no idea what the blinds are in this pot as the original post is very hard to understand.

Do you ever bluff or do you always have it? AJ is a pretty standard 4 bet assuming seat positions and an opponent who is capable, i admit you might not be capable so perhaps AJ is a fold

Sigh ... one day Flushy will learn how to pass when he has fk all at the business end of a live comp 'Colchester Kev'

Oh..and he called with AJ..

Badly played anyway, KK is a limping hand at that stage of a tournament. If your limp is raised then just call.
If no ace comes on the flop bet the BB amount to see where you are. If anyone goes over the top lay it down, you're probably beat.
It ain't rocket science.

Did he not raise, you re-raised he 4 bet and you jammed?


What do i know though, i have never won a 52 runner $1500 fo

I'm gutted I really thought it was these two likely lads you were talking about....

[ ] everyone who has replied on the thread had read it throughout

[X] the sicilian has hijacked the thread with a standard hand

[X] the sicilian should know better against said player

Did he not raise, you re-raised he 4 bet and you jammed?
no, i raised..he re raised and i 4 bet jammed for another 30k which he happily calls with AJ

Seeing as you explained the way the hand played off forum, I understand the way you played it now.  It was a hell of a lot different to the way it was reported.

What do i know though, i have never won a 52 runner $1500 fo ME

Nope u havent.....  glad u took the bait...WHOOOOOSH !!!

u think even george might think AJ is no good to a 30K 4 bet...sigh...heh heh

What's Nick Slade got to do with anything?

no

george doesnt even know what 4-bet means let alone fold to one. given ur chips and his u played it wrong imo. u panic shoved as thats what inferior players do when they know they can be outplayed on the flop imo.

LOL sorry forgot to mention your 1500f was a ME, you must be distraught.

Right so you are playing shallow, he 3 bets AJ, you shove he is getting more than 2-1 i don't see how this is a pass unless you have no game.

u dont play online do you sicilian?

Not as much as chewing computers is tiresome and expensive

not as distraught if it were a $400 side event....

yep ill take 2-1 when faced with a guarenteed minimum 3-1 dog situation....

is 7/3 a grtd 3-1 situation?

also is TT not in the range there as well ( I am pretty sure aj v TT isnt 3-1)

you must be a mega nit for AJ to be gtd 3/1. fair enough if so.

+1 the guaranteed bit almost drove to smash my PC into a wall. (last day at work and not my PC so I was tempted already but felt like blaming you)

I am rocky.

Please read properly...i had K K  he had AJ

Thats what there supposed to think...

?

what has that got to do with what we'r talking about?!

its got so murky iv'e forgotten

why risk your tournament life on a draw?

Sicillan you got me so hard for like 3 weeks now, i just twigged.

Alex is it you?

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