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Title: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: AlexMartin on August 15, 2008, 04:11:18 AM ***** Hand History for Game 399497663 *****
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 14, 10:50:29 ET 2008 Table Oxygen 86 (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Seat 1: 1saitam ( $228.96 USD ) Seat 2: sing cs ( $201.90 USD ) Seat 3: 'bigpoppa ( $155.93 USD ) Seat 4: leeds123 ( $68.64 USD ) Seat 5: mixalis007 ( $345.52 USD ) Seat 6: JammyJenny ( $403.00 USD ) mixalis007 posts big blind [$2.00 USD]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to JammyJenny [ 6c 8c ] JammyJenny raises [$6.00 USD] 1saitam folds sing cs folds 'bigpoppa calls [$6.00 USD] mixalis007 calls [$4.00 USD] ** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, 4h, 6h ] mixalis007 checks JammyJenny bets [$12.00 USD] 'bigpoppa calls [$12.00 USD] mixalis007 folds ** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ] My image is fairly aggro 30/24/3. He's a fish, 34/8/1.9 over small sample but pretty clear hes a passive donk. I kinda think double barrel small, probs c/f river coz his aggro is so low and big kings are in his range but obv i really hate c/c on the turn....is c/r the answer or spew? Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: Longy on August 15, 2008, 04:16:36 AM Just bet again imo, hoping to fold out hands weaker than the bare king. There are draws and other stuff in his range. I would bet something like $25 on the turn.
Plan on the river is to valooo bet if we improve and check/ fold on the river if not. Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: boldie on August 15, 2008, 08:34:06 AM Just bet again imo, hoping to fold out hands weaker than the bare king. There are draws and other stuff in his range. I would bet something like $25 on the turn. Plan on the river is to valooo bet if we improve and check/ fold on the river if not. This. Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: TheChipPrince on August 15, 2008, 10:44:52 AM ***Alex Martin in ''not making his pre-flop raise 3 1/2 BB's'' shocker*** ;)
Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: MC on August 15, 2008, 11:20:36 AM I think a bet on the turn is definitely best here, the Jc is bad for a heart flush draw, or if he has a 4 or 6. If he has a King he's calling, but you have a fair few outs even if this happens...
Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: EvilPie on August 15, 2008, 11:44:44 AM ***Alex (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198) Martin (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198) in ''not making his pre-flop raise 3 1/2 BB's'' shocker*** ;) Don't panic I think it's just a standard pot raise. Would've been 3 1/2 if there was a small blind. Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: AlexMartin on August 15, 2008, 03:27:01 PM ***Alex (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198) Martin (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198) in ''not making his pre-flop raise 3 1/2 BB's'' shocker*** ;) lol evilpie spotted it. although i only really make it smaller when i have short morons in the blinds and i have junk. Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: totalise on August 15, 2008, 09:35:43 PM bet $20 or so on the turn and if the river gets there for you, bet big, if it whiffs completely, bet $8 on the river to induce (as they dont raise a K) and snap it off like a modern day hero.
Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: snoopy1239 on August 17, 2008, 11:58:56 PM I'd check the turn. If he's a passive donk, then he's not going anywhere so you're likely inflating the pot with a weaker hand. Reasses on the river and pot if you hit. So often they're calling you down with some donkey hand like K-T or something.
Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: AlexMartin on August 19, 2008, 05:48:34 AM yeah i check -raised, got pot stuck and he shoved. Luckiliy i run like the wind and sucked out on 444.
Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: snoopy1239 on August 19, 2008, 11:51:03 PM yeah i check -raised, got pot stuck and he shoved. Luckiliy i run like the wind and sucked out on 444. Not sure I see the point of a check-raise there Alex. Title: Re: So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD? Post by: AlexMartin on August 20, 2008, 03:04:43 PM yeah i check -raised, got pot stuck and he shoved. Luckiliy i run like the wind and sucked out on 444. Not sure I see the point of a check-raise there Alex. I can get him off heart/ combo draws, i can get him off K10, i have good equity if called and if it goes pair-shaped i can claim metagame payoff in future..... Its not the best play snoops agreed, but i dont want my range of turn c/raises to be sets/huge hands and bluffs, i need some medium strength in there and these fit the bill sometimes. |