Title: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 01:58:15 PM action man was kind enough to to stake me for the $24+2 7pm game on full tilt last this is my exit hand, id like opinions on how best to play this hand through the streets please.
45mins in nothing much has happened i still have my starting stackish. the table has been playing tight passive apart from 2 maniacs either side of me who have played just about every pot. im in the hijack with pockets 6s. 2 limpers- maniac to my right limps i limp as does maniac 2-folded to the bb who checks... flop 10106 rainbow board...its checked to me i assume we check this as we are only getting action for a 10 or maybe a pair?..... Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Newmanseye on August 16, 2008, 02:06:11 PM Behave cambo, you are always going broke here with the boat, he is always calling with the Ace 10,
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc1fu4RHDi0 Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 02:07:32 PM wait till you see the turn and river cards and the action thanks for spoiling the thread...
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Newmanseye on August 16, 2008, 02:11:47 PM Mate its a level for a beat story, we all know how the flop should be played, and against 2 slag opponents you will just go broke here.
once more YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc1fu4RHDi0 Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Royal Flush on August 16, 2008, 02:16:01 PM lead
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 02:16:26 PM nope we dont all have to blindly go broke cos we have a boat in this situation -hence the thread
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 02:19:28 PM i did think about about leading but as id be playing so few hands at this stage i didnt want them to fold maybe thats mistake number 1...checked round- turn brings the ace.....its checked to me again bet now i havent lead the flop?
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Longy on August 16, 2008, 02:22:28 PM Stacks? Blinds?
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 02:26:26 PM emmm 40/80 blinds i think, villan to my right is playing 4k im playing 3kish villian to my left is playing 5.5k i think thats the right level im not used to playing on tilt that was my very first tourney on there only opened an account a couple of weeks ago an only played a few stts
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 16, 2008, 02:39:49 PM I seen the hand in play mate, I think your always going broke here. I don't think you done anything wrong even if you lead the flop and get raised then ultimately your calling that raise hoping he has a T or maybe just getting it in?
On the plus side your exit won me $20 from Fett so thanks for that. colddeckaments! Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 02:43:03 PM the reason i posted this is i think i made mistakes on the flop turn and river ...not just oh we have a boat lets go broke whatever the turn and river is
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 16, 2008, 02:50:17 PM the reason i posted this is i think i made mistakes on the flop turn and river ...not just oh we have a boat lets go broke whatever the turn and river is You could have played it differently but I think your always going broke. 1) Could have raised pre - your tight image if they players were watching are sure to give any raise you make respect. 2) You could have lead the flop - and you call/raise a re-raise 3) turn is cold deckaments I think its all going in no matter how you play it pre or post flop. 4) I think the only thing you can do differently on the river is flat the bet rather than raising, your only getting called with someone who has AA, QQ, AT, QT, T6 but given the way the hand played pre I think we can easily rule out AA and QQ. AT & QT are definitely possibilities. You got really unlucky mate it was just a cold deck. Sure you could have done a few things differently but I don't see how you avoid going broke with a boat especially given the way the players had been playing. Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Royal Flush on August 16, 2008, 03:48:34 PM You need to bet these flops to get some money in there, as played please bet now!
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 04:04:47 PM well theres mistake number 2, i checked again....river queen.... checked round to maniac 1 who bets 300...i make it 950 or somethin which leaves me 2kish behind maniac 2 insta shoves....maniac 1 folds.....so the board is 10 10 6 a q , this an insta call? how often does he have kj 10j 109 in this spot? or the hands im crushed by a10 q10? so is this an insta call or reluctant fold and pass with over 20bbs left...
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Royal Flush on August 16, 2008, 04:13:47 PM Mangleaments
This is really a bit of a sick spot but i can't see any hand you are beating KJ flats your raise. Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 04:28:44 PM see billy not as if its a no brainer :)
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Newmanseye on August 16, 2008, 05:12:17 PM see billy not as if its a no brainer :) Playing it any differently it is. you checked it to allow them to outdraw you, but if you bet out the money goes in on the flop anyway. same result The only way you are saving yourself is if you check the flop, turn & fold the river, which is just insane to check the flop in the first place. one more time YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc1fu4RHDi0 Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: MC on August 16, 2008, 05:23:16 PM Wow really dislike your check on the turn. could have led flop I don't mind the check though. You shouldn't have given yourself this tough decision on the river. You're approx beating king ten and KJ that might do this otherwise it looks like you're beat. But get some chips in earlier and if you're beat it's just a cold deck.
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 05:29:50 PM its 50/50 to bet the flop imo, hardly insane, im not checking to let them outdraw me im checking to let them catch a piece, im the tightest player at the table. im only gettin action from a 10 or a pocket pair, i dont want them to fold on the flop if i bet out. not betting out on that board may or may not be a mistake.
i agree IF i do bet the flop and get called or raised all the money is going in on the flop or the turn but as i said i think i made mistakes on the hand and wanted feedback so this is why i posted the thread, nothing to do with its being a beat/cold deck etc but then again u prob insta call the river shove anyway Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 05:31:39 PM Wow really dislike your check on the turn. could have led flop I don't mind the check though. You shouldn't have given yourself this tough decision on the river. You're approx beating king ten and KJ that might do this otherwise it looks like you're beat. But get some chips in earlier and if you're beat it's just a cold deck. yep i hate my check on the turn aswell, i must lead there after checking the flop Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Boba Fett on August 16, 2008, 07:05:06 PM I flat the river bet and fold to a shove.
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 16, 2008, 07:14:23 PM I flat the river bet and fold to a shove. $$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$ :) :) Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: Royal Flush on August 16, 2008, 08:42:16 PM its 50/50 to bet the flop imo, hardly insane, im not checking to let them outdraw me im checking to let them catch a piece, im the tightest player at the table. im only gettin action from a 10 or a pocket pair, i dont want them to fold on the flop if i bet out. not betting out on that board may or may not be a mistake. i agree IF i do bet the flop and get called or raised all the money is going in on the flop or the turn but as i said i think i made mistakes on the hand and wanted feedback so this is why i posted the thread, nothing to do with its being a beat/cold deck etc but then again u prob insta call the river shove anyway I agree you played each street badly :D Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: cambo on August 16, 2008, 09:03:12 PM :) ty
Title: Re: exit hand... Post by: AlexMartin on August 17, 2008, 12:53:50 AM Wtf lead flop and trawl for tens, build pot which allows you to overbet jam turn slightly, ppl cannot fold now. Only read op.
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