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You have to watch it, Scotty (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=874) Nguyen (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=874) pissed out of his skull, acting like a prick and berating his opponents

there are two episodes in full but scroll along to the 7 minute mark here for a taster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Qlf0-ObdI

According to his interview in Inside Poker (your mag?) he hardly drank the beers, just kept ordering them and sipping bits, then ordering more to lull his opponents in to a false sense of security.

Actually probably the only mag I dont write for.

He apologised on the cardplayer forum, and it looks like he was pissed when he was writing.

LOL @ the 7 min bit :D

How come he didn't get a 10 min ban or something for swearing so much? 

Demichelle was made out in some press to be the bad boy


I thought he was well behaved,a little exuberant at first,but he calmed down after realising that he was a little OTT


but Scotty was bang out of order


and did you see Lindgren ignore Layne Flack at the end for being an asshole..I thought Lindgren's handling of the situation was exceptional,always coming back with a cutting comment and a smile

E-dog is my hero, if everyone was as much of a role model, poker would be a great spectacle

just watch them on pokertube, was a complete a-hole scotty is.

He's got a great attitude and personality. I was speaking to a guy who deals in wsop events and he said Erik is easily the best poker player to have at the table cause he's always joking about despite the money at stake in these events.

I spotted a youtube clip a couple of weeks ago with Erik Lindgren which I found pretty cool. It was a Full Tilt Learn from the Pros show and the presenter Chris Rose was asking what kind of player you think they are based on the way they look. Chris asked Erik what kind of player he thinks he looks like and Erik said something like "a gambler". Chris said "what do you think I have a swagger?" in a bad New York accent to which Erik replied "no I'd think you were a sucker"
 

awell have to disagree, never liked lindgren always seems a smug up up his own arse type. lindgren=johnny bravo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IjdQnWmUAo

This video pretty much sums up the whole ugly affair

It's just a bit of chat, what's all the fuss?

Scotty was an absolute knobhead.

I like it at the end when E-Dog says "Hopefully the kid will win". E-Dog is class.

Scotty was wasted and i wanted Di Michelle to win so bad even tho i knew he didnt. Also, Flack was being an absolute douche.

Nguyen was in clear breach of WSOP rules.

If it was just some ordinary Joe who had reached the final and behaved like that would the response (or lack of) been the same?

The time penalties that should have been imposed against Nguyen could have changed the result completely.

Could DiMichelle or Lindgren take legal action against Harrah's if they were so inclined? Would they be right to do so?

If it was Joe Bloggs doing that he could well have been banned, that happened recently to some knob kid who was chipleader in a WPT/wsop circuit event who was consistently rude and he got booted out when he could have won millions.

Scotty gets away with murder, I've seen him calling out peoples hands when he isnt in the hand and a decision is still to be made on TV before, and nobody bats an eyelid.

The only argument for penalties, and its not a particularly good argument by any means, is that this is the highest calibre table in poker and the players will be used to and the least phased by all this 'banter'.

All that said.......great telly

Great tv but Scotty wat a drunk/drugged twonk! and yeah loved it when Lindgren ignored Flacks high five lol...and the penalties! where were they for Scotty, showing his cards to the crowd, deffo different rules for the "big names".

Was not impressed by Lindgren or Scotty's behaviour here, first it seemed almost like they were colluding and then it just got nasty. Dimichelle's comment about scotty being an ambassador for the game rung true.

Has anyone read his apology over at 2+2? It's much worse than any of his behaviour in those clips.

got a link mate?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=280619

Soz no. Someone emailed it to me.

I know, I'll paste it here. How's that for a deal?

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An open letter from SN...

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I would like to apologize to all my fans for the disappointment I have caused in the H.O.R.S.E. Event. For that I would like to express my sincerest apology.

I would like to ask for understanding of what really took place. Keep in mind this was a five day event, with an almost fourteen hour final table that was reduced to two hours of air time including all the commercial breaks. With that being said, as you can imagine, more took place than what made the final cut for t.v. Last year’s Main Event I made the mistake of letting someone get under my skin, of which overtook my mental focus of the game, and cost me my tournament along with a lot of disappointment amongst my fans and peers. Since that time, it has haunted me and even now with the mistake that I made. As a professional, you always critique yourself to make yourself better, and in doing so you have to focus on the mistakes you make, in order to improve. This year, I needed redemption of my own 2007 Main Event demons to prove to myself that no one would get to me again.

This tournament was too important for me, the trophy, the fifth bracelet, and history, my head was zoned in for this event, and for that time, I forgot the fans were watching me. I said things I shouldn’t have said that have disappointed you, and I apologize for my actions. All my life, there have been many many tournaments, I put all the fans first, tried to play bad hands and win to give more excitement, and I would blow my tournament, however I have never regretted it, because without all you fans there would never be a Scotty Nguyen, and I appreciate all of you every which way. This tournament I played the players game. They wanted to play a drinking game, and they couldn’t win, they say they can’t even beat a drunk, how can you beat a drunk if I’m not drunk. They can’t beat me in a drinking game, now they play the talking game to try to get under my skin like in 2007, and I gave it right back to them and got underneath their skin, and they couldn’t win. When it came down to playing a poker game, the best will win. Because they can’t beat me in a drinking game, a talking game and then we played poker, of which they can’t beat me, and I am the one who brought the trophy home. This event I had my mind set, I wouldn’t let anything interfere between me and the bracelet and the Chip Reese trophy, and I proved that to the whole world. I can beat them at any game they want to play. And all I have to say, I hope all you fans understand what I’m trying to say. And watch the tape again. I was not the one to start anything, not even drinking or talking, they wanted to start it with me, and they got beat by me fair and square on all levels they wanted to play. All I would ever be sorry, is how the fans feel about me, I would never be sorry to beat those players. If they can’t accept defeat, then stay home, crawl under their loved ones arms, don’t bad mouth because you got beat by the best poker player. Another thing, I always bring joy and excitement to the poker game every time I’m on tv, and all of you know, when Scotty Nguyen is on tv, your eyes are glued on the screen. Why? Because I make it fun so you guys don’t switch the channel. All these years that is all you’ve seen of me, and that is the real me. That proves to you, how great and nice I am, I am the real deal. One cannot be on tv all these years with the same persona if it wasn’t the real deal. Even during this final table, I still took time for all the fans with a smile on my face. You have not even heard of one fan who was there that came up to me and could say that I was rude to them or out of line with them in any way. This was an issue at the table, and one I didn’t take out on the fans even during that time. This was business. How many players do you know that would do that to the fans except one, the Prince of Poker, Scotty Nguyen and once again I apologize to all of you. No excuses for my behavior in that $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. final table. And I have explained to you why and how that happened. Bottom line, I only ask for you to please understand and remember that I, Scotty Nguyen, the Prince of Poker is still a human being, just like all of you. I too have good times, bad times, sad times and angry times, just like everyone else in this world, and I hope you can understand that. I do promise to all the fans that no matter what, from now, I would never disappoint you again any which way. I forgot about the fans, and only focused on me. I am sorry.

Thank you,

Scotty Nguyen

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How is it worse????(unless your talking about structure rather than content)

I dont happen to think what he did was that bad anyway

Talking about content. It really isn't an apology at all - is it?

I think he wrote the third paragraph, then when his publicity people read it, they put the first two paras in to make it look like an apology.

Does Scotty 'critique' himself ?  If so, maybe I'm wrong.

It's an attempt at an apology, though he doesn't appear to be the most accomplished of writers which detracts a bit from it's sincerity.

that being said he puts forward every excuse from fatigue to intoxication all the while maintaining he was goaded into action(points from which the majority of the letter are comprised)then exasperatingly continues: "no excuse for my behaviour in that H.O.R.S.E final table" sigh!

He's written it as though he's telling someone down the pub what happend which of course doesent make for great reading but i think if you look at the apologies general incoherence(seemingly due to the extemporaneous way in which it's written) probably a lot of the intended sincerity has been lost in translation.

Unless he's got the worst publicist/pr person in the world he's written it himself which should bump up his brownie points with you lot a bit.

Ahhh who gives a feck?

I like bad boys!!!

He didn't need to apolgize.

If the officials didn't see cause to penalize him then wtf is everyone's problem?

Maybe it'll affect the future sales of the soon to be lauched official WSOP merchandise Scotty dolls.

 ;)

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2008/08/other-side-felt-vol-13-scotty-nguyen.htm (http://www.pokernews.com/news/2008/08/other-side-felt-vol-13-scotty-nguyen.htm)

I just watched the event, Scotty is definitely out of line, no question. At first he just slates DeMichele for celebrating too much when he takes down a pot. It was a fair comment and the guy heeded the advice. DeMichele said something along the lines of how I conduct myself at the poker table is very important to me, and from then on he behaved impeccably.

Scotty then continued to berate the guy for not showing class but just became classless himself. It was dire to watch. It almost felt like Lindgren wanted to get away from the table.