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Well folks its only a few days now til the all important draw for the group stages of the UCL so who do you want?  Who do you want to avoid and who do you think will win this years competition?

For me I want to avoid going back to Barcelona, Milan, Doneskt and Lisbon - bored of these places.

For the budget I'd be happy to take on an English side - preferably Arsenal or Liverpool.

I also fancy a trip to Turkey or Greece this year.

And I do enjoy going to Germany, Holland and France for the football so would gladly take a team from one of these countries.

As for the winner, I reckon Barcelona will go well under Guadiola this year and think they could go all the way.

Liverpool haven't qualified yet...

But they will.  won't they?

Although I know another British team who have definitely not qualified ;)

chealsea for the lot this season.

Just not going to happen.

I've gone for a Chelsea double this season, Champions League and Prem.

Possibly not

Why? Got to be in the top 4 or 5 faves for the lot imo.

I would have to say , chelsea will be very hard to stop winning the PL and CL this season. On paper there squad is awesome , with plenty of depth i mean cmon Ballack , Lampard, Essien, Deco ,Obi mikel (meh),  not half spoilt for choice there , also Cashley cole and Bosingwa raiding the wings has alot of potential too.
They should go very close for the lot this season IMO

+1

+ 2

sigh  +3

If barca get a tough draw they may struggle out the group, being only one injury away from disaster at anyone time is a bit risky. Man u are similar but they have a rock solid defence, minus the keeper, to help stay in contention.

Chelsea have taken another step forward this summer and most other top clubs have stayed still, if not gone backwards like barca. 

I fancy Real Madrid to do very well in it this year.
They looked very impressive towards the end of last season, although the injury to Snejider and the probable sale of Robinho will not help.
But van der Vaart is a good signing and if Raul and Van Nistelroy stay fit they could go very close.

Not if they play like they did in the first leg. 

Surely it is not physically possible to play as bad as that

I don't doubt Chelsea's squad but I think they have had a very strong squad for the past few years and even under the stewardship of the special one they never had enough to win the UCL.  I just don't think they will do it.

I'd sincerely hope so.  We haven't been playing brilliantly in the first two premiership games - lucky to have 6 points really.

Agree with you from the Celtic perspective that getting the same teams is becoming a bit boring. Been saying for a few years that we are overdue a game with Real Madrid.

Pot 2 has the look of having lots of teams we are capable of beating 1-0 at CP and losing 3-0 to away  ::)

Much as it pains me, pot 4 looks most significant for us. Shakhtar and Spartak are better than 'genuine' pot 4 teams, whilst the likes of Cluj and maybe Borisov look like guarantees of at least UEFA Cup football after Christmas.

I lwouldn't mind Madrid to be honest.  I fancy the Bernebeau for a Celtic game.  I don't think I will make all 3 games away this year, struggling badly for cash and the gambling/poker hasn't been so kind :(  So I hope that we get a decent draw I can go to somewhere different failing that I'll settle for a trip to Germany.

When is the draw please ?

tomorrow lunchtime kiv

Ta very much

Nah its 5pm our time!!

Which bolloxes up my plans, normally the draw is mid morning early afternoon with fixtures announced at back of 7!

I was planning in doing fuck all work the morra after seeing our group draw and planning the best journey etc but now i am fucked and i finnish at 6 so going to need to dash home so i can get onto things!

I wouldnt dicount BATE Borisov completely if I was a celtic fan- it would by no means guarantee you UEFA cup footy- they've put out Anderlecht and levski sofia(ok not amazin teams but half decent)

What are Liverpool all about by the way- I really fancied them before the start of the season to do well in CL and EPL but they are lookin horrible- Liege have had a couple of decent chances here and the defence looks v.shaky

Liege look like the home team here!!!

Liverpool are very very lucky to be 0-0 here.

Liege's support is very good.

Just hope they can nick one to make the game more exciting.

That's fair comment but tbh if we can't take a minimum four points off them, then we don't deserve to be in the comp anyway.

We've been crap every game this season so far.

Good job Pepe is playing well.

Very true- I would reckon your home game would be a banker but having to go to Belarus on a cold winter night could be torture

Liverpool's diving is tilting me like fk.

Got 1-0 gerrard so hopefully he gets his trademark last minute saviour

GL man- dunno if I can see Liverpool scoring but then again its games like these Gerrard typically scores the winner to clinch the tie

Did someone mention long faces on another thread ?

 ;popcorn;

Thats what i was hoping but nvm.

Looking like penalties at the moment.

As a Liverpool fan, I have to be honest and say I don't think we deserve to go through at the moment. Something is clearly wrong within the team and it's showing rather appallingly at the moment.

I am praying for Javier Mascherano to come back into the team, he brings so much stability.

Liege have looked a decent side but in all honesty with your squad you should be able to wipe the floor with them

I'm up for a penalty shootout. Can't be it for the neutral.

Not a penalty, my arse.

jaaaaaaaaaaammy

Indeed :)

Thank god for that. As a team though, something needs to be done asap.

And it ain't over yet.

You are playing shit and winning games, dont knock it, the team will gel soon enough.

perhaps Babel will now realise that crossing the ball is + EV

Hmmmm where have I heard that old adage???

Draw coming soon.

1 Manchester United FC (ENG, holders)
 107.996
2 Chelsea FC (ENG)
 124.996
3 Liverpool FC (ENG) 118.996
4 FC Barcelona (ESP) 117.837
5 Arsenal FC (ENG) 110.996
6 Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
 99.380
7 FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
 96.934
8 Real Madrid CF (ESP) 93.837
 


Pot 2 Club Coefficent
9 FC Bayern München (GER)
 92.078
10 PSV Eindhoven (NED) 91.610
11 Villarreal CF (ESP)
 90.837
12 AS Roma (ITA)
 81.934
13 FC Porto (POR)
 81.176
14 Werder Bremen (GER)
 74.078
15 Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
 67.176
16 Juventus (ITA) 66.934
 


Pot 3 Club Coefficent
17 Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
 63.380
18 FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)  60.437
19 FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU) 59.398
20 Panathinaikos FC (GRE) 52.525
21 FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA) 52.380
22 Celtic FC (SCO) 52.013
23 FC Basel 1893 (SUI) 51.993
24 Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)  51.469
 


Pot 4 Club Coefficent
25 FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 49.932
26 ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
 40.934
27 Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
 36.837
28 FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
 34.932
29 CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
 13.398
30 Aalborg BK (DEN)
 12.748
31 Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP)
 4.327
32 FC BATE Borisov (BLR)
 1.760
 



Hope we get Bate, Famagusta, Aalborg or 1907 from pot 4.

Psv or Sporting from pot 2.

Avoid Chelsea, Man Utd, Barca from pot 1. (Real maybe but that'd be a great tie)

Sandy

Celtic Man Utd and Villareal so far.

Sandy

Marseille & PSV in Liverpools group

who have spurs got?

we have to wait til tomorrow for the proper European fixtures :)

Not a bad draw at all for us so far, especially compared to recent seasons.

wow Celtic in with Man Utd and villareal and Aalborg

Didn't really want Atletico though...

+1

Not ideal but could have been so much tougher.

3 in a row :)

Sandy

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A trip to old trafford and a jolly in spain and then a piss up in Denmark ... enjoy yaselves Bhoys.

Atletico and Psv to go through ..Marseille Uefa cup..Liverpool...at home where they belong :)

FUCK!

From a football perspective it could have been better, but it also could have been worse.

From a social perspective it looks sound :D There's actually a Villareal Celtic Supporters Club - a legacy of our last tie versus them. Rod can elaborate on that one.

Bit disappointed to have another couple of return matches v recent opponents, but it's good there are no trips to the furthest corners of Europe.

looking forward to manchester. always a good trip when we go there. doubt i'll get to spain or denmark but you never know!!!!

pleased with the draw, could have been worse.

I fear think Celtic have a really good chance of getting through to the last 16 again this season. Still think they will struggle to break their duck away from home but capable of avoiding defeat in Spain and Denmark, this and their usual home performances should be enough.

Pretty sure all English clubs will be comfortable qualifiers but there's usually one that makes hard work of it.

Still think Chelsea FTW.

I agree mate I think its a decent draw for Celtic- avoiding games like having to travel to deepest darkest ukraine or russia in november were what I was hoping for to be honest but I reckon you have a real fighting chance of getting through this (unfortunately). Aalborg should be a banker and at the very least 4 points out of 6, then you just have to contend with villareal for 2nd place as I think manure will get stronger before this starts. at least you avoided the 4 stronger teams from pot 4- those 4 are better than most of the teams in pot 2.

I've watched a fair bit of Villareal in the last season and I'm worried - watched them destroy Barca last season through fast passing possession football.

Great trip for the bhoys although there's not a huge amount of bars/hotels.

At least the bull run's'll be over.

Celtic fans have nothing to be worried about imo.

we're never gonna win it. making the last 16 is great achievement given the circumstances. The uefa cup is a MUST if we dont qualify. whatever draw we got was gonna be tough.

We're there for the party.

Would love to go to Kiev!

but ur too chicken?
















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:)

Been looking at dates and flights etc and doesn't look like I will be going anywhere other than mancland!

The first away game is a little too early and I am away on Donegal for the Celtic festival.  Managed to find a flight from Shannon Airport to Alicante for 15 euro which is really good and Alicante is not too far from Villareal.  But Shannon is a bit of a hike from where I am in Donegal so that idea has ben scrapped.

Looked at doing a week in Benidorm trying to fly from Belfast or Derry but the costs aren't the cheapest, infact probs cheaper flying from Glasgow. 

For the other game in Denmark I have never been to Allborg before, don't think we have played them before but pretty murderous trip.  Myself and seven2unsuited were looking at a number of crossings last night including flying to Germany, Spain, France and Sweden and getting a connecting flight but the times of connecting flights were miserable.

But where there is a will there is a way the Saltmarket CSC will have a bus going to all 3 you never know, maybe I'll end up on that.

Drawing Villareal cannot be seen as good by any stretch of the imagination. None of the teams in this group should like it.

Yeah for me the most significant thing about the draw was dodging some of the scary pot 4 teams. I reckon the group will go exactly as seeded.