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Title: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: jambo22 on August 26, 2008, 08:44:03 AM Would appreciate your comments on this hand
£30 f/o level 4 antes 200 - 400 50 runners 40 left Table fairly tight me - sb with 7600 chips bb - 5500 chips villian ug limper 9200 chips mid pos limper 6400 chips no raise pre flop flop Ts 9s 7c I lead out for 700 bb fold villian reraises to 1500 mid pos limper folds I push allin for 6900 after a min or so villian calls the 6100 cards over, me 8s 3s - villian Aspades Tc How do you think this hand played out I missed by the way cheers jambo Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: Horneris on August 26, 2008, 09:54:40 AM Fold pre-flop.
On the flop, getting it in is standard/fine, but leading for 700 into an 1800 pot is a bit weird. Shouldve led for like 1.1k min. Altho its going in whatever v the AT ball. I think he played it like a champion pre. I think you messed up on the turn and river. Its important to get there in Poker, esp with FD & OESD. Id advise you to get there in the future. Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: jambo22 on August 26, 2008, 10:06:57 AM Fold pre-flop. On the flop, getting it in is standard/fine, but leading for 700 into an 1800 pot is a bit weird. Shouldve led for like 1.1k min. Altho its going in whatever v the AT ball. I think he played it like a champion pre. I think you messed up on the turn and river. Its important to get there in Poker, esp with FD & OESD. Id advise you to get there in the future. You would not make up the small blind ? I am not sure what you mean about messing up on the turn and river as all the chips went in on the flop cheers Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: Horneris on August 26, 2008, 10:15:36 AM Fold pre-flop. On the flop, getting it in is standard/fine, but leading for 700 into an 1800 pot is a bit weird. Shouldve led for like 1.1k min. Altho its going in whatever v the AT ball. I think he played it like a champion pre. I think you messed up on the turn and river. Its important to get there in Poker, esp with FD & OESD. Id advise you to get there in the future. You would not make up the small blind ? I am not sure what you mean about messing up on the turn and river as all the chips went in on the flop cheers no m8. I would do with 6s 8s + in terms of suited 8 x's. I appreciate there is a lot of value and you're getting like 8-1 to make up, but i think 82, 83, 84 even suited are just too weak. With the latter, i was just joking because you didnt hit. Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: jambo22 on August 26, 2008, 10:30:22 AM Fold pre-flop. On the flop, getting it in is standard/fine, but leading for 700 into an 1800 pot is a bit weird. Shouldve led for like 1.1k min. Altho its going in whatever v the AT ball. I think he played it like a champion pre. I think you messed up on the turn and river. Its important to get there in Poker, esp with FD & OESD. Id advise you to get there in the future. You would not make up the small blind ? I am not sure what you mean about messing up on the turn and river as all the chips went in on the flop cheers no m8. I would do with 6s 8s + in terms of suited 8 x's. I appreciate there is a lot of value and you're getting like 8-1 to make up, but i think 82, 83, 84 even suited are just too weak. With the latter, i was just joking because you didnt hit. I never even considered folding pre. To be honest I probally never fold pre with the odds, no matter my cards. Must be the gambler in me :) Sorry about missing the last bit. Not had my 2nd cup of tea yet :)) Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: action man on August 26, 2008, 10:33:21 AM i like his 700 it looks weak so he can induce the raise so he can jam with FE and a heaven draw.
All pretty standard tho. as for the completing of the sb, meh, depends whether i need a piss/fag or not, callings not tez Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: MC on August 26, 2008, 12:54:35 PM I like how you played the hand, I might have check raised...depends how I was feeling. But you got your money in as I think a slight favourite, and certainly gave him a chance to pass.
I always complete the sb here. Maybe later on in the tourney I wouldn't but now is fine. Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: Royal Flush on August 26, 2008, 01:04:38 PM 3 bet smaller, looks a lot stronger
Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: EvilPie on August 26, 2008, 02:08:25 PM 3 bet smaller, looks a lot stronger Does that mean we're trying to get him to fold? Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: Royal Flush on August 26, 2008, 02:13:10 PM 3 bet smaller, looks a lot stronger Does that mean we're trying to get him to fold? No we want him to make a +EV call.... Yes of course we want him to fold!!! Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: MrsJambo on August 26, 2008, 03:33:58 PM your problem is you assume that the other people at the table can play poker, and analyse and think as much as you do.
lol Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: Graham C on August 26, 2008, 03:37:13 PM your problem is you assume that the other people at the table can play poker, and analyse and think as much as you do. lol ha ha, was this a home game Mrs Jambo? Are you villain :D Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: EvilPie on August 27, 2008, 12:48:07 AM 3 bet smaller, looks a lot stronger Does that mean we're trying to get him to fold? No we want him to make a +EV call.... Yes of course we want him to fold!!! So what do we 3 bet to? And do we fold to an all in? Even 3k commits us so we've got to call a shove. I always thought the idea was that if you're prepared to go all in with a good draw but prefered a fold you shove to give them the decision. I can't see how we're deep enough here to play anything other than shove/fold? Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: action man on August 27, 2008, 01:15:23 AM obviously our money is going in regardless, but making it 3k may pick up the pot without showdown, if he flats he just jam the turn
Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: jambo22 on August 27, 2008, 08:32:06 AM I agree with Evil. Don't think a 3bet in this situation is the correct play. Deeper stacks yip could be the play
Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: action man on August 27, 2008, 12:38:57 PM I agree with Evil. Don't think a 3bet in this situation is the correct play. Deeper stacks yip could be the play no, deeper stacks we just check/call or bet/call. its because we are not that deep. Under 20 bb that we need to 3bet to give us the opportunity to win the hand by showdown or by opponent mucking. Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: jambo22 on August 28, 2008, 01:40:42 AM I agree with Evil. Don't think a 3bet in this situation is the correct play. Deeper stacks yip could be the play no, deeper stacks we just check/call or bet/call. its because we are not that deep. Under 20 bb that we need to 3bet to give us the opportunity to win the hand by showdown or by opponent mucking. Fair Point Title: Re: Comments on how the hand was played Post by: AlexMartin on August 28, 2008, 11:53:05 PM well played OP, i like it all.
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