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Title: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Amatay on August 31, 2008, 01:45:18 AM
Im interested to know how many people on here play poker for a living? Those of you who sometimes read my crappy blog will know that i have been playing poker 'full time' since Jan this year. However, you will also know that i am the laziest full time poker bum in the world. I struggle to play more than 20 hrs a week tbh and have zero structure. I have made a fair amount of dosh as a part time player and have also made a bare living since going full time but i am really going to try to be much more disciplined as of tomorrow playing 35+ hrs a week with some sort of structure.
It would definitely help me to hear from other full time fish like myself. Specifically i would like to know how many hrs a week you play, what games, limits etc and if you have a set routine/structure to your week at the tables. Also, how do you cope with the boredom of online poker? Cheers.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: sovietsong on August 31, 2008, 01:52:10 AM
get a job, realise how lucky you are, go back to poker.  i would kill for the opportunity to play poker for a living and not have to face a boring office job for the next 40 years....put things in perspective and you will soon start putting the hours in/appreciate what you have!

EDIT - just read that back seems aggressive, not meant to be!


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: thetank on August 31, 2008, 02:22:03 AM
Im interested to know how many people on here play poker for a living? Those of you who sometimes read my crappy blog will know that i have been playing poker 'full time' since Jan this year. However, you will also know that i am the laziest full time poker bum in the world. I struggle to play more than 20 hrs a week tbh and have zero structure. I have made a fair amount of dosh as a part time player and have also made a bare living since going full time but i am really going to try to be much more disciplined as of tomorrow playing 35+ hrs a week with some sort of structure.
It would definitely help me to hear from other full time fish like myself. Specifically i would like to know how many hrs a week you play, what games, limits etc and if you have a set routine/structure to your week at the tables. Also, how do you cope with the boredom of online poker? Cheers.

When people go down the gym and work out, they sometimes use a buddy to spot them. A kind of mutual motivation thing, spurring each other on to do more reps than they would if they were just by themselves.

Maybe you could do something similar (but less gay) for poker. Find another pro/semi-pro player in a similar position (won't be too tough, we're all bums) to do this kind of thing with. Exchanging a message or two with them every day with how much you've played, so you can spur each other on.




Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: sovietsong on August 31, 2008, 02:24:10 AM
Im interested to know how many people on here play poker for a living? Those of you who sometimes read my crappy blog will know that i have been playing poker 'full time' since Jan this year. However, you will also know that i am the laziest full time poker bum in the world. I struggle to play more than 20 hrs a week tbh and have zero structure. I have made a fair amount of dosh as a part time player and have also made a bare living since going full time but i am really going to try to be much more disciplined as of tomorrow playing 35+ hrs a week with some sort of structure.
It would definitely help me to hear from other full time fish like myself. Specifically i would like to know how many hrs a week you play, what games, limits etc and if you have a set routine/structure to your week at the tables. Also, how do you cope with the boredom of online poker? Cheers.

When people go down the gym and work out, they sometimes use a buddy to spot them. A kind of mutual motivation thing, spurring each other on to do more reps than they would if they were just by themselves.

Maybe you could do something similar (but less gay) for poker. Find another pro/semi-pro player in a similar position (won't be too tough, we're all bums) to do this kind of thing with. Exchanging a message or two with them every day with how much you've played, so you can spur each other on.




 rotflmfao rotflmfao


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: boldie on August 31, 2008, 11:16:01 AM
Im interested to know how many people on here play poker for a living? Those of you who sometimes read my crappy blog will know that i have been playing poker 'full time' since Jan this year. However, you will also know that i am the laziest full time poker bum in the world. I struggle to play more than 20 hrs a week tbh and have zero structure. I have made a fair amount of dosh as a part time player and have also made a bare living since going full time but i am really going to try to be much more disciplined as of tomorrow playing 35+ hrs a week with some sort of structure.
It would definitely help me to hear from other full time fish like myself. Specifically i would like to know how many hrs a week you play, what games, limits etc and if you have a set routine/structure to your week at the tables. Also, how do you cope with the boredom of online poker? Cheers.

When people go down the gym and work out, they sometimes use a buddy to spot them. A kind of mutual motivation thing, spurring each other on to do more reps than they would if they were just by themselves.

Maybe you could do something similar (but less gay) for poker. Find another pro/semi-pro player in a similar position (won't be too tough, we're all bums) to do this kind of thing with. Exchanging a message or two with them every day with how much you've played, so you can spur each other on.




 rotflmfao rotflmfao

+1..that cracked me up.

Good advice from Tank though.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Longy on August 31, 2008, 12:37:54 PM
I suffer from exactly the same kind of malaise as you mate, sometimes i wonder what i actually do with my life. The fact i have spent over 2 months of my life on blonde might have something to do with it.

I have got slowly better with it, by setting monthly goals and then dividing them up into daily targets. That way everything is broken down into managable chunks, instead of saying im going to play 2000 tournies this month and get nowhere near. I have this timetable stuck up on bedroom wall and refer to it all the time. This is very gay and something i have never done in my life before, i was crap at organisation when i was teacher, just about every lesson was off the cuff and revision for exams before that were made up of 24 hr marathons the day b4 the exam.

I find it best to link these timetable in with poker sites loyalty schemes, so there is a tangiable reward for grinding that bit extra. Also rewarding yourself when and only when you achieve your goals i find good.



Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Horneris on August 31, 2008, 01:01:38 PM
Get a Job imo.

The reason i say this is coz my flatmate ChipRich is a full time Professional and sometimes doesnt leave our flat for weeks on end, never feels like air, never has any social interaction.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Dewi_cool on August 31, 2008, 01:30:05 PM
Get a Job imo.

The reason i say this is coz my flatmate ChipRich is a full time Professional and sometimes doesnt leave our flat for weeks on end, never feels like air, never has any social interaction.

thats what being imprisoned in a cupboard does for you ;whistle;


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Girgy85 on August 31, 2008, 02:06:05 PM
Get a Job imo.

The reason i say this is coz my flatmate ChipRich is a full time Professional and sometimes doesnt leave our flat for weeks on end, never feels like air, never has any social interaction.

thats what being imprisoned in a cupboard does for you ;whistle;

me thinks its about time for another prop bet!!!


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: DaveShoelace on August 31, 2008, 02:08:50 PM
Get a Job imo.

The reason i say this is coz my flatmate ChipRich is a full time Professional and sometimes doesnt leave our flat for weeks on end, never feels like air, never has any social interaction.

thats what being imprisoned in a cupboard does for you ;whistle;

me thinks its about time for another prop bet!!!

+1

Another Amatay prop bet would be mint. How about a number of games played bet this time round?

Alternativley, even though Im sure you have a monster roll, why not get someone to buy a % of you? Playing with someone elses wedge might make you more professional? I'd take a slice


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: FuglyBaz on August 31, 2008, 02:21:25 PM
Is the life of a poker pro as glamourous as it is made out to be by guys like Roland De Wolfe, Phil Hellmuth and Phil Ivey? Or is it that the top 5% of professionals are living the dream and the rest trying to earn a half decent wage or in other words, 'grinding it out'?

I'm just curious because the card rooms I go too the serious players look so bored out of their skulls that i don't know what drives them.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: boldie on August 31, 2008, 03:15:18 PM
Is the life of a poker pro as glamourous as it is made out to be by guys like Roland (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=384) De Wolfe (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=384), Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) and Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=709) Ivey (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=709)? Or is it that the top 5% of professionals are living the dream and the rest trying to earn a half decent wage or in other words, 'grinding it out'?

I'm just curious because the card rooms I go too the serious players look so bored out of their skulls that i don't know what drives them.

Live pro's..well, it's better than being stuck in an office..but it's still hard work.

I tried the online thing for a while and just couldnt do it..lost the bloody will to live.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: AlexMartin on August 31, 2008, 04:25:42 PM
2 sessions a day, usually broken by a gym/pub/sport/Social trip, 4/5 nights a week. 4-7pm......11-4am. Simple. But i still really love the game and could pretty much play for eternity without getting bored.

[X] Sad fuck


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Amatay on August 31, 2008, 04:31:49 PM
Cheers guys. Any other comments are very welcome. LOL @ the thought of another prop bet although im flattered that Barry would buy a slice of my ass :-)



Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: lucky_scrote on August 31, 2008, 07:18:11 PM
Hi amatay, im mainly an online pro I guess (for this year anyway).

When I used to grind 3/6 and 5/10nl I would play about 20 hours a week which I would consider a lot. I played 4-6 tables a time.

I now play 25/50 and 50/100 and probably play 10 hours a week (lolaments). I would not consider this lazy either as finding soft games up that high is harder. I am also usually just 1 or two tabling.


I'm almost never bored as I don't play TOO much, I find myself playing golf everyday which means I am more motivated to play poker in the evenings.

As for getting into a routine...do as you please. You are your own boss after all ;)


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: ChipRich on August 31, 2008, 08:50:06 PM
Get a Job imo.

The reason i say this is coz my flatmate ChipRich is a full time Professional and sometimes doesnt leave our flat for weeks on end, never feels like air, never has any social interaction.

[  ] this is true
[X] he just says this to tilt me ridic hard


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: boldie on August 31, 2008, 09:19:55 PM
Get a Job imo.

The reason i say this is coz my flatmate ChipRich is a full time Professional and sometimes doesnt leave our flat for weeks on end, never feels like air, never has any social interaction.

[  ] this is true
[X] he just says this to tilt me ridic hard

Did it work?


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: ChipRich on August 31, 2008, 09:24:33 PM
[  ] no


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: sovietsong on August 31, 2008, 10:54:46 PM
Hi amatay, im mainly an online pro I guess (for this year anyway).

When I used to grind 3/6 and 5/10nl I would play about 20 hours a week which I would consider a lot. I played 4-6 tables a time.

I now play 25/50 and 50/100 and probably play 10 hours a week (lolaments). I would not consider this lazy either as finding soft games up that high is harder. I am also usually just 1 or two tabling.


I'm almost never bored as I don't play TOO much, I find myself playing golf everyday which means I am more motivated to play poker in the evenings.

As for getting into a routine...do as you please. You are your own boss after all ;)

I'm useless at golf but this would be bliss!


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: MC on September 01, 2008, 09:08:24 PM
Staying motivated is def a problem...

I'm full time pro nowadays, since I started a better schedule a couple of months ago I've been running good. Used to wake up around half 12 and play sporadically between then and like 2am.

Now...

Wake up around 10am have breakfast, play for 2-3 hours. Then shower and have lunch. Play for 2-4 hours in the afternoon depending on errands and stuff then spend most evenings with my girlfriend, though will occasionally play MTTs at night.

Definitely a day off here and there required!


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: FuglyBaz on September 02, 2008, 08:06:54 AM
Staying motivated is def a problem...

I'm full time pro nowadays, since I started a better schedule a couple of months ago I've been running good. Used to wake up around half 12 and play sporadically between then and like 2am.

Now...

Wake up around 10am have breakfast, play for 2-3 hours. Then shower and have lunch. Play for 2-4 hours in the afternoon depending on errands and stuff then spend most evenings with my girlfriend, though will occasionally play MTTs at night.

Definitely a day off here and there required!

Why not ever play in the early hours of the morning? You can catch the Americans then? :D


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Royal Flush on September 02, 2008, 11:31:30 AM
Staying motivated is def a problem...

I'm full time pro nowadays, since I started a better schedule a couple of months ago I've been running good. Used to wake up around half 12 and play sporadically between then and like 2am.

Now...

Wake up around 10am have breakfast, play for 2-3 hours. Then shower and have lunch. Play for 2-4 hours in the afternoon depending on errands and stuff then spend most evenings with my girlfriend, though will occasionally play MTTs at night.

Definitely a day off here and there required!

Why not ever play in the early hours of the morning? You can catch the Americans then? :D

[  ] Targeting Americans online is a good thing to do.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: FuglyBaz on September 02, 2008, 12:42:17 PM
Staying motivated is def a problem...

I'm full time pro nowadays, since I started a better schedule a couple of months ago I've been running good. Used to wake up around half 12 and play sporadically between then and like 2am.

Now...

Wake up around 10am have breakfast, play for 2-3 hours. Then shower and have lunch. Play for 2-4 hours in the afternoon depending on errands and stuff then spend most evenings with my girlfriend, though will occasionally play MTTs at night.

Definitely a day off here and there required!

Why not ever play in the early hours of the morning? You can catch the Americans then? :D

[  ] Targeting Americans online is a good thing to do.

[ ] Agreed
  • Wants to know why it is a bad thing?


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: ericstoner on September 02, 2008, 01:09:56 PM
I find the best time to hunt down the yankee doller,is between 7am and 12 noon.That's when the overnighters out there are trying to get out of a  hole!


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Longy on September 02, 2008, 01:50:15 PM
Staying motivated is def a problem...

I'm full time pro nowadays, since I started a better schedule a couple of months ago I've been running good. Used to wake up around half 12 and play sporadically between then and like 2am.

Now...

Wake up around 10am have breakfast, play for 2-3 hours. Then shower and have lunch. Play for 2-4 hours in the afternoon depending on errands and stuff then spend most evenings with my girlfriend, though will occasionally play MTTs at night.

Definitely a day off here and there required!

Why not ever play in the early hours of the morning? You can catch the Americans then? :D

[  ] Targeting Americans online is a good thing to do.

[ ] Agreed
  • Wants to know why it is a bad thing?
As the current US player base is probably the strongest of any country at the moment. Due to UIGEA meaning that the US fish can't get there money online, most have given up and the average man on the street in the US, has been told playing online is illegal. This means we are left with mainly winning us players/clued up people playing.

Also the US is the most mature poker market and the game has become more advanced strategy wise, there ahead of other markets.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: DaveShoelace on September 02, 2008, 02:04:23 PM
Staying motivated is def a problem...

I'm full time pro nowadays, since I started a better schedule a couple of months ago I've been running good. Used to wake up around half 12 and play sporadically between then and like 2am.

Now...

Wake up around 10am have breakfast, play for 2-3 hours. Then shower and have lunch. Play for 2-4 hours in the afternoon depending on errands and stuff then spend most evenings with my girlfriend, though will occasionally play MTTs at night.

Definitely a day off here and there required!

Why not ever play in the early hours of the morning? You can catch the Americans then? :D

[  ] Targeting Americans online is a good thing to do.

[ ] Agreed
  • Wants to know why it is a bad thing?
As the current US player base is probably the strongest of any country at the moment. Due to UIGEA meaning that the US fish can't get there money online, most have given up and the average man on the street in the US, has been told playing online is illegal. This means we are left with mainly winning us players/clued up people playing.

Also the US is the most mature poker market and the game has become more advanced strategy wise, there ahead of other markets.

Always a reasonable chance their fat fookin fingers cause a misclick though, so its not all bad.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: FuglyBaz on September 02, 2008, 10:06:26 PM
Staying motivated is def a problem...

I'm full time pro nowadays, since I started a better schedule a couple of months ago I've been running good. Used to wake up around half 12 and play sporadically between then and like 2am.

Now...

Wake up around 10am have breakfast, play for 2-3 hours. Then shower and have lunch. Play for 2-4 hours in the afternoon depending on errands and stuff then spend most evenings with my girlfriend, though will occasionally play MTTs at night.

Definitely a day off here and there required!

Why not ever play in the early hours of the morning? You can catch the Americans then? :D

[  ] Targeting Americans online is a good thing to do.

[ ] Agreed
  • Wants to know why it is a bad thing?
As the current US player base is probably the strongest of any country at the moment. Due to UIGEA meaning that the US fish can't get there money online, most have given up and the average man on the street in the US, has been told playing online is illegal. This means we are left with mainly winning us players/clued up people playing.

Also the US is the most mature poker market and the game has become more advanced strategy wise, there ahead of other markets.

Always a reasonable chance their fat fookin fingers cause a misclick though, so its not all bad.

I need a new monitor - I just spat my drink over it :D

I take the point on board about the yanks on sites being better. I forgot about the gaming laws. Still boggles me why they wont allow you to bet for pennies yet you can drop a mortgage on roulette.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: AlexMartin on September 03, 2008, 12:59:21 AM
[  ] no

took me way too long to work this out. i feel special but not in a good way.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: ChipRich on September 03, 2008, 03:55:10 AM
[  ] no

took me way too long to work this out. i feel special but not in a good way.

haha quality.


Title: Re: Question for all you full time poker degens...
Post by: Amatay on September 03, 2008, 04:06:03 AM
Yanks are still sh1t at poker in general imo