Title: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: kinboshi on September 01, 2008, 03:13:52 PM Live STT. Ten runners of differing abilities.
The game for the hand is Pineapple, Jacks wild, aces high worst hand wins. No-limit of course. Chip stacks are about level, except for UTG+1 who has recently doubled-up through the BB who has very few chips but actually owns all of them. You are UTG+3 with Ac 2h 3c . UTG is a laggy, unpredictable player who has recently rejoined blonde. UTG+1 is even more unpredictable, throws in the occasional googly, and is a big fan of Lindisfarne. UTG+2 has been around for ages. At least 4 millennia. He's seen it all, but can't see much any more - especially small text. UTG folds, UTG+1 shoves all-in for about £200 (real money chips). UTG+2 looks at UTG+1's cards and then folds. You? :dontask: Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: TightEnd on September 01, 2008, 03:16:52 PM ;D
sack the dealer Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: Royal Flush on September 01, 2008, 03:22:08 PM Live STT. Ten runners of differing abilities. The game for the hand is Pineapple, Jacks wild, aces high worst hand wins. No-limit of course. Chip stacks are about level, except for UTG+1 who has recently doubled-up through the BB who has very few chips but actually owns all of them. You are UTG+3 with Ac 2h 3c . UTG is a laggy, unpredictable player who has recently rejoined blonde. UTG+1 is even more unpredictable, throws in the occasional googly, and is a big fan of Lindisfarne. UTG+2 has been around for ages. At least 4 millennia. He's seen it all, but can't see much any more - especially small text. UTG folds, UTG+1 shoves all-in for about £200 (real money chips). UTG+2 looks at UTG+1's cards and then folds. You? :dontask: Impossible to give proper analysis unless we know the current weather conditions and also the levels of alcohol in UTG+1's bloodstream Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: Laxie on September 01, 2008, 03:57:17 PM None of the above matters. You're behind with the high A, so deffo a shove.
Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: EvilPie on September 01, 2008, 04:10:02 PM Give utg+2 a pound and ask him what utg+1 had.
Ignore what he tells you and call. If utg+1 is any good he will fold to your call knowing that he must be beat and not wanting to show a bluff. Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: kinboshi on September 01, 2008, 04:18:09 PM Live STT. Ten runners of differing abilities. The game for the hand is Pineapple, Jacks wild, aces high worst hand wins. No-limit of course. Chip stacks are about level, except for UTG+1 who has recently doubled-up through the BB who has very few chips but actually owns all of them. You are UTG+3 with Ac 2h 3c . UTG is a laggy, unpredictable player who has recently rejoined blonde. UTG+1 is even more unpredictable, throws in the occasional googly, and is a big fan of Lindisfarne. UTG+2 has been around for ages. At least 4 millennia. He's seen it all, but can't see much any more - especially small text. UTG folds, UTG+1 shoves all-in for about £200 (real money chips). UTG+2 looks at UTG+1's cards and then folds. You? :dontask: Impossible to give proper analysis unless we know the current weather conditions and also the levels of alcohol in UTG+1's bloodstream Fair enough, I realise that it is situation dependent. The weather conditions were warm and humid, although the air-con was doing a grand job in the casino. I don't believe there was any alcohol in the bloodstream of UTG+1 or UTG+2. However, they were pretty much the exceptions at the table, and I'd had enough for both of them. Does that help? Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: kinboshi on September 01, 2008, 04:18:53 PM Give utg+2 a pound and ask him what utg+1 had. Ignore what he tells you and call. If utg+1 is any good he will fold to your call knowing that he must be beat and not wanting to show a bluff. UTG+1 was a woman. Now this obviously makes things a lot different. I should have included this in my OP? Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: TightEnd on September 01, 2008, 04:22:27 PM UTG+2 was an OLD woman
that may also help Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: Royal Flush on September 01, 2008, 05:08:35 PM The weather conditions were warm and humid This makes it a pretty standard shove imo Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: EvilPie on September 01, 2008, 05:16:35 PM Give utg+2 a pound and ask him what utg+1 had. Ignore what he tells you and call. If utg+1 is any good he will fold to your call knowing that he must be beat and not wanting to show a bluff. UTG+1 was a woman. Now this obviously makes things a lot different. I should have included this in my OP? In that case you may need to invest another pound to find out what kind of mood she's in. If it looks favourable then it's a definite call, otherwise you're probably better off just flatting it. Hope that helps. Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: Rupert on September 01, 2008, 07:54:38 PM with aces high you basically have a two card hand and with jacks wild he has lots more flexibility to make the nuts if he has one which seems likely. so yes i'd say pretty straightforward fold
Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: kinboshi on September 01, 2008, 08:06:11 PM with aces high you basically have a two card hand and with jacks wild he has lots more flexibility to make the nuts if he has one which seems likely. so yes i'd say pretty straightforward fold But it's crazy pineapple, so I can discard one. I was worried that UTG+1 had a jack, and also worried that another player yet to act might also have a jack. I was also concerned that my glass was almost empty and there weren't any valets in sight... Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on September 01, 2008, 09:26:24 PM I think the Super Stud hand is the one you should be asking advice for.
Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: Rupert on September 01, 2008, 10:17:55 PM being able to discard one doesn't defer from the fact that you essentially have a 2 card hand, if it was 238 (or worse) i could probably muster a call but I think a bare 32 is a bit weak here
Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: Laxie on September 01, 2008, 10:59:03 PM Quote The game for the hand is Pineapple, Jacks wild, aces high worst hand wins. 2 3 os pretty close to the nuts at this point...no? rotflmfao Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: snoopy1239 on September 02, 2008, 04:21:40 AM Do you discard before or after the flop in Pineapple? I've forgotten. I've more of a Coconut player these days.
Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: kinboshi on September 02, 2008, 09:15:51 AM Do you discard before or after the flop in Pineapple? I've forgotten. I've more of a Coconut player these days. I'll just check. I've just asked the man from Del Monte, and he said 'YES!' Title: Re: Should I be folding pre-flop here? Post by: kinboshi on September 02, 2008, 09:16:11 AM I think the Super Stud hand is the one you should be asking advice for. I think we mangled that hand. |