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I was reading some comments from American players, pros and amateurs alike, about how tough the online cash games have become over the last year or two, and just wondered what the current future of online poker is with regards to ring games. For instance, is Asia an upcoming market, or do they have seemingly unmovable laws set in place that restrict people from playing online? What are the chances of Asia becoming a viable market for online poker? Also, is the American government going to overturn the Unlawful Gambling Act at any stage, or at least find a way in which people can get back to ambushing the online sites in their masses? Does anyone have an insight into this, an opinion perhaps, or even some links to different discussions, articles, etc that might be of interest. The games just seem to be getting tougher and tougher, and sooner or later you're going to run out of new players, and thus fish. It would be interesting to know what the future holds.

doubt it, every day ppl get older, new generations find the game and then have to learn it. The futures bright, american bill will get reversed and asia is coming onboard.

sweeet.

The games will never be like 04, 05 again, but I don't see the game dying or becoming unbeatable in the forseeable future.

As Alex say there are new generations to come through as well as new markets. Lots more Russians playing recently and Asia mainly China will eventually come on board with their ever increasing capatilist attitude.

As for the UIGEA getting repealed, lot depends on the upcoming elections. Not so much whether it is Obama or McCain (though Obama is the preferred candidate from pokers point of view, i would have thought) but how the seats are split in the Senate and House of Representives. A democrat majority is crucial to getting online poker back to where it was, due to the christian rights influence within the Republican party.

All in my opinion of course and i am by no means an expert on US politics.

Qualified to be US president then.

Something has just struck me but since the US ban how do the yanks get their funds onto sites and how do they withdraw any winnings without Neteller, credit cards  and banks being viable options.

So true that the games have got tougher...

Hopefully the Americans will come back soon.

Lets hope they haven't spent the last year on CardRunners....

i agree the games are alot tougher nowadays

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=33178.0

hehe, im gonna remove my post. i feel like a slight cock lol.

The cash games are much tougher imo. Longy mentions the good old days of 04 and 05 but i reckon the games were very juicy in 06 and 07 to an extent aswell. i've seen a marked increase in the standard in the last 6-12 months tbh

thats it quote me then leave me stranded...

I do hope both the Asian and American markets find themself's able to donk on the online felt sometime soon, though although the games are getting tougher(not as much as people suggest IMO) theres still plenty of dough out there for the pro's and very good recreational players.

I'm not sure if the statistic that 85% of online players lose, 10% break even and 5% are winners is still accurate but even if, as snoopy sugggests, less and less new players are coming into the game i imagine this statistic wouldn't differ too dramatically over time.
you dont have to be exceptional, brilliant, amazing or fantastic to be an online pro, just BETTER!!! better than that 85% that dont put in the time and effort that you do, and even if that is becoming slightly harder to do it shouldnt be causing the top 15% of winning/break even players any amount of considerable concern

It's funny this coming up because i was having this discussion with a pal of mine and i used the % of winning online players as an analogy for life and it does seem to lend itself to a lot of other things in the real world and demonstrates you dont always have to be the best to suceed, just better than that 85%.

You don't even have to be that good. You just have to be disciplined, put in the hours and not tilt. If you do that it's difficult to fail.

 ;iagree;

I've always understood the % to be 15% of players are winning players, but only 1% are massive winners, which seems a bit more likely.

There are still plenty of easy games/value out there, its just knowing where to find it. If you are multi-tabling six max midstakes on Full Tilt then it is tough, because there are loads of ABC cardrunner subscription, 22/19 tough regs. But if you go somewhere like Sky Poker then its like shooting fish in a barrel as long as you can put up with the software, low traffic etc. Its a skill in itself to preempt where the fish will go and lots of very good players who dont keep up with poker current affairs are doing themselves a disservice.

I play CASH casually online but have ALWAYS been a winning player (nothing life changing but can clear 2-3 hundred a week playing 2 or 3 days), never saved any of it though and wasted most at the bookies, plus been thru' long periods with no play.


UNTIL the last 12 months, I'm really struggling, whether its me or the game I don't know, or the fact I prefer to play live.

I can only seem to win online now in STT or MTT's.

FTW. You should coach the british olympic teams.

My old man told me way back that it is only a matter of time before large proportions get better and better and you have to run ever faster just to maintain your position, as it were.
I do not agree with this.
When you play poker and win consistently (I did this one week in '04, for example), you are deviating from fundamental natural tendencies. Tendencies to laziness, rashness, fundamental biases, stupidity, lack of control and untethered rashness. How many times did you win a tournament/big pot because you made some Einstein insight and just outthought the other guy? And how many times because the other guy just did something )*()ng stupid. You see it all over the place. Even big tourneys, big names.
How to make money at poker: learn the game, then don't be stupid. You could sit and play a tight, unadventurous game with no insight and still make cash from chaos.
Have you read a book on poker? Then you're already well ahead of the masses.