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Title: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: MereNovice on September 04, 2008, 05:57:05 AM
I despise Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) with a passion.
The guy is such a hypocrite and has the social skills of a backward 10 year old.
I cringe when I watch him on tv but I still do it just to see him get stuffed.
He may be a fantastic NLHE tournament player but I don’t think that I’ve ever seen him have a winning cash session on tv.

The Poker After Dark series being shown on Challenge currently is really great to watch because he gets beat up so badly.
After storming off set in a previous game when he was totally outplayed and lost a hand to Annie (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1009) Duke (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1009) and whining that people were talking when he was trying to get a read – he constantly talks while other people are playing big pots.

In the cash game currently been shown on Poker After Dark, there are three hands that made me laugh out loud.
He has made his usual statements about how he is going to slow play and really trap someone and that will show people what a great player he is and the other guys at the table aren’t worthy of playing with him.

It’s a 6 seater table and the blinds are $200 and $400 with a $100 ante. I’m a bit surprised that they’re playing an ante for a cash game but I guess that they can do what they like.

Hand 1:
I’m a bit hazy about the amounts bet but it’s something like this.

David Peat: QT in early position raises to $1,200

Hellmuth:  AK in the sb re-raises to $3,400

Peat calls.

Flop = KJx
Hellmuth checks dark (genius) and Peat checks his draw.

Turn = T
They both check again.

River = 9

Hellmuth check calls $1,100 on the river and then tells everyone how great he is for not losing more!



Hand 2:

Hellmuth:-  Th 9h  limps

Mike Baxter:- Ks Kd raises to $1600

Guy (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=835) Laliberte (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=835):- Ad Tc calls

Hellmuth  calls the raise

FLOP is 3h 9d 3c

Hellmuth checks.
Baxter bets $4,000
Laliberte folds
Hellmuth calls


Turn is 8d

Hellmuth checks dark

Baxter bets $8,000

Hellmuth calls


river is 7h

Baxter bets $16,000

Hellmuth insta-calls

Baxter says “2 pairs” and turns over his KK pretty quickly.

Then Hellmuth whines about Baxter slow-rolling him – very classy.




Now for the piece de resistance:

David Peat:- Ac Qd raises to $1,200

Hellmuth calls with 5d 5c

Cunningham calls with Ts Td

The flop is Jd Th 5s

Peat bets $2,200

Hellmuth calls

Cunningham raises to $11,000

Hellmuth says “This is what I was waiting for fellers, I’m all in – all of it”.
Cunningham quietly says “I’m going to call you Phil”

Hellmuth says “Thankyou, I think I've got the nuts” with a really smug look on his face.

The cards get turned over:

Hellmuth says “Wow – set over set”.

The set of 10’s holds up and Hellmuth reloads for $100,000.

Pity that Hellmuth only had less than $20,000 at this point because he had lost so much already but it made me laugh.

It’s obviously unlucky to lose to a flopped set over set and I’d probably have some sympathy if he wasn’t such a t0$$3r.


I've had a bad day on the cash today with a number of bad beats but this has more than made up for it.


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: relaedgc on September 04, 2008, 06:01:19 AM
I always thought he did it as part of a glorified act to further draw attention onto him.

Granted, I've never watched him enough to really ascertain if that's the case. He might just be a genuine p****.


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: MereNovice on September 04, 2008, 06:04:11 AM
It may well all be part of his self-publicity drive but he's still a pr@


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: Girgy85 on September 04, 2008, 07:07:15 AM
been watching the WSOP ME on pokertube and Negraenu lost to a set vs set and took it graciously!

I do enjoy some of Hellmuths blow ups tho!


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: MC on September 04, 2008, 01:49:55 PM
I see your point but tbh I just find him funny!


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: Jon MW on September 04, 2008, 01:56:33 PM
Met Phil Hellmuth at the Premier League of Poker launch party - he seemed fairly ordinary (apart from being exceedingly tall), which lends weight to the suggestion that the poker brat persona is just for marketing.

Whereas Devilfish - complete t0$$3r


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: thetank on September 04, 2008, 01:59:57 PM
Met Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) at the Premier League of Poker launch party - he seemed fairly ordinary (apart from being exceedingly tall), which lends weight to the suggestion that the poker brat persona is just for marketing.

Whereas Devilfish - complete t0$$3r

Blatant, "I've been to a schmancy poker party" brag post.  ;goodvevil;


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: Jon MW on September 04, 2008, 02:01:20 PM
Met Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) at the Premier League of Poker launch party - he seemed fairly ordinary (apart from being exceedingly tall), which lends weight to the suggestion that the poker brat persona is just for marketing.

Whereas Devilfish - complete t0$$3r

Blatant, "I've been to a schmancy poker party" brag post.  ;goodvevil;

;D


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: MereNovice on September 04, 2008, 04:43:08 PM
Met Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) at the Premier League of Poker launch party - he seemed fairly ordinary (apart from being exceedingly tall), which lends weight to the suggestion that the poker brat persona is just for marketing.

Whereas Devilfish - complete t0$$3r

I agree that it is quite possibly just for marketing. I think that makes me hate him more. If he couldn't stop himself from behaving this way, I'd edge towards pity.  :)


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: kinboshi on September 04, 2008, 05:08:58 PM
Met Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) at the Premier League of Poker launch party - he seemed fairly ordinary (apart from being exceedingly tall), which lends weight to the suggestion that the poker brat persona is just for marketing.

Whereas Devilfish - complete t0$$3r

I agree that it is quite possibly just for marketing. I think that makes me hate him more. If he couldn't stop himself from behaving this way, I'd edge towards pity.  :)

Jon's not that bad.


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: MereNovice on September 04, 2008, 05:11:06 PM
Met Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) at the Premier League of Poker launch party - he seemed fairly ordinary (apart from being exceedingly tall), which lends weight to the suggestion that the poker brat persona is just for marketing.

Whereas Devilfish - complete t0$$3r

I agree that it is quite possibly just for marketing. I think that makes me hate him more. If he couldn't stop himself from behaving this way, I'd edge towards pity.  :)

Jon's not that bad.


 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: bolt pp on September 04, 2008, 06:55:30 PM
Phil Hellmuth = poker god


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: Flea on September 04, 2008, 07:12:42 PM
Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) = poker
Oh my god

FYP


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: thetank on September 04, 2008, 07:18:49 PM
Phil, God'll Poke her muth


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: Chutneye on September 04, 2008, 11:09:16 PM
YIP! HE SURE IS A FRUIT CAKE :)


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: Snatiramas on September 05, 2008, 08:31:23 AM
Hellmuth wouldn't sign a baseball for Ads...maybe he was having a bad day
Devilfish was chasing random women on the first Ladbroke cruise whilst his companion was on her own........maybe they had had an argument.

Maybe they are both unpleasant


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: relaedgc on September 05, 2008, 08:32:35 AM
Hellmuth wouldn't sign a baseball for Ads...maybe he was having a bad day

?


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: Acidmouse on September 05, 2008, 08:35:56 AM
Hellmuth can play how he wants in those Mikey mouse TV poker shows, he is most probs paid to play them anyway.

I think its amusing people get pissed off with him and create this drama. He wins for every thread like this :)


Title: Re: Phil Hellmuth - what a t0$$3r
Post by: Snatiramas on September 05, 2008, 08:40:47 AM
Hellmuth wouldn't sign a baseball for Ads...maybe he was having a bad day

?

I went up to him at an event and said "Hi Phil would you sign this for my son as he has seen you on TV and he turned round to me and said no"