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Second of these I've seen in a couple of days, are these moves normal?

5/10 cash NLHE
All regular players with a bit of aggression here and there

6 handed. 2 to flop.

Villain $600

Hero $500  Aspades 9s button bets $20

SB fold
Villain BB Reraise to $60
Hero calls

Flop  8h 9d 4c

Villain instabets $100
Hero calls

Turn   8c

Villain dwells 15 seconds. Is all in for $440

?????

In 3b pots yes villains play is standard. Fold.

This was a hand I was observing, the hero was Benyamine, total final pot was 155K, I just adjusted the figures to make them look normalish :)
It's a nice picture of how crap things can get for you if you compound wishy washy preflop play with A9 with that kind of flop call.
Anyway, he calls the turn bet and the villain shows QQ which holds.
It's kinda not the way I play QQ there on the turn so it got me to thinking about it. The shove looks a lot like a draw that is hijacking the 8 as a scare card, where the preflop reraise etc makes it look unlike the 8 helps him. All of which elicits a call. To do this you have to be pretty certain
-the other guy hasn't got an 8
-the other guy isn't slow playing a set (unlikely, granted)

This came just a day after I saw a roughly similar move. These are moves I don't make and I think they have some value. If you can figure with some certainty that your opponent doesn't have some obvious nuts (like a 2346 board) and you massively overbet it looking like you know he doesn't have it and are representing it, but looking like you have air, they call with something like just a pocket pair but you have a set.

I saw this Dwan/Antonius pot the day before

reasonable pot

board k 4 5 8 7 rainbow

Antonius checks river

Dwan makes this massive overbet all in on river (I think it was 110K into 44K pot), called, showing 88 for set, Antonius mucks.

A strange kind of beauty to this move, don't tell me it's standard cos I sure aint been doing it lol.

Biggest ever online pot here - see if you can guess the hands before they're turned over.

http://www.highstakesdb.com/view-hand-history.aspx?GameID=239927

for real?

Fo' real.

At least when trex313 and durrrr created the 2nd biggest pot a bit later they had the good grace to do it with set over (rivered) set.

http://www.highstakesdb.com/view-hand-history.aspx?GameID=239948

What do we think of trex's river check here?

I think the check is great, he must have known durrrr is going to bet out, he bet out on the turn so logical that he'd do the same on the river.  As it goes, he's always getting a call even if he shoved, but I like the check - good knowledge of oppo.