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Title: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: celtic on September 20, 2008, 12:29:24 PM Starting stack 6000.
2nd level, blinds 50/100. We have had a couple of mishaps having to fold pocket jacks & kings on unfavourable boards and are down to 3300. Very loose french guy who has accumlated lots of chips (approx 15k) makes it 500 utg. 2nd loose french guy (4.5k approx) makes it 2000 out of the small blind. We look down at QQ. Fold or shove? Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: ShatnerPants on September 20, 2008, 12:47:02 PM ;ashamed;
I push. Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: feedthegoat on September 20, 2008, 01:54:16 PM I'm shoving all day here against 2 loose players.
Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: Robert HM on September 20, 2008, 01:59:47 PM I'd leave friction burns on the felt, but I'm a fish
Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 20, 2008, 02:07:37 PM The structure isn't good enough for you to fold here.
Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: Charlie44 on September 20, 2008, 02:55:52 PM Starting stack 6000. 2nd level, blinds 50/100. We have had a couple of mishaps having to fold pocket jacks & kings on unfavourable boards and are down to 3300. Very loose french guy who has accumlated lots of chips (approx 15k) makes it 500 utg. 2nd loose french guy (4.5k approx) makes it 2000 out of the small blind. We look down at QQ. Fold or shove? By loose do you include history of raising and reraising pre flop regularly or without premium hands. If so I'm pushing. On a full table there's a only approx. 10 % chance that somebody's got AA or KK , and if their raising range is wide there is a good chance your better preflop. Info. about number of players on table and position of yourself/opponenets would help reinforce decision. Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: MANTIS01 on September 20, 2008, 03:17:47 PM You have a raise from a very loose Frenchman and a strange re-raise from another loose Frenchman. The re-raise is obv for 4.5k and imo pushing for 4.5k would look like a much weaker hand than a half stack re-raise. Why put in a raise that looks so strong if you're so strong? Also you have lost half your starting stack.
More importantly you have a rare golden opportunity to play poker Waterloo and that's got to be worth a push in itself. In fact you should consider humming Rule Britannia as you push your chips in. Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: MC on September 20, 2008, 04:27:05 PM Shovel them in there, no way around this one...
Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: Rupert on September 21, 2008, 03:08:52 PM god i knew i should have played this
Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: Chompy on September 22, 2008, 03:28:29 AM Is there anybody would NOT have shoved with QQ in this situation?
Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: thetank on September 22, 2008, 04:12:15 AM It looks like it Chompy
WYSINWYG might try a patented 3.5k to go min-raise, but we're 201 chips shy of making that move work. :( Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: AndrewT on September 22, 2008, 11:04:26 AM You have a raise from a very loose Frenchman and a strange re-raise from another loose Frenchman. The re-raise is obv for 4.5k and imo pushing for 4.5k would look like a much weaker hand than a half stack re-raise. Why put in a raise that looks so strong if you're so strong? Also you have lost half your starting stack. More importantly you have a rare golden opportunity to play poker Waterloo and that's got to be worth a push in itself. In fact you should consider humming Rule Britannia as you push your chips in. "You can stick your Entente Cordiale up your arseholes Frenchies - I'm alllllllllll in" Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: booder on September 22, 2008, 06:39:27 PM More importantly you have a rare golden opportunity to play poker Waterloo and that's got to be worth a push in itself. In fact you should consider humming Rule Britannia as you push your chips in. rotflmfao rotflmfao Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: boldie on September 22, 2008, 07:12:29 PM Hell, you shove J4 here..QQ isn't even a question.
Shove. Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: Thekellster89 on September 25, 2008, 12:42:40 PM pass hes got AA'S
Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: ThatsSoMinusEV on September 29, 2008, 01:29:36 AM This hand is so standard its unbelievable, w/o offending
QQ is ahead of is likely 4bet calling range which makes this +EV Range being JJ+, AQ+. If it's tighter than that (which i doubt by your description) your prob a 3 to 2 dog to his calling range which still makes this +EV with the dead money Title: Re: Hand from WSOPE Event. Post by: johnnybond on October 09, 2008, 04:04:11 PM yeah i would shove.
against 2 loose players its an easy push!! |