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Title: deep stack oop
Post by: UpTheMariners on September 22, 2008, 05:38:03 PM
** Game ID 1052284408 starting - 2008-09-22 15:20:11
** Doc [Hold 'em] (2.00|4.00 NL - $ Cash Game) Real Money

- evilswine sitting in seat 1 with $388.00
- Strangeone sitting in seat 2 with $400.00 [Sitting out]
- Mariners sitting in seat 3 with $829.16
- Funkyswede sitting in seat 4 with $1527.33 [Dealer]            38/9/2.48  (374 hands)
- Gogo10 sitting in seat 5 with $277.10
- kbucks sitting in seat 6 with $436.00

Gogo10 posted the small blind - $2.00
kbucks posted the big blind - $4.00
** Dealing card to Mariners: Ad, Ac
evilswine folded
Mariners raised - $14.00
Funkyswede called - $14.00
Gogo10 folded
kbucks folded

** Dealing the flop: Kd, 3c, 2c
Mariners bet - $27.00
Funkyswede raised - $72.00
Mariners called - $72.00

** Dealing the turn: 6d
Mariners checked
Funkyswede bet - $132.00
Mariners called - $132.00

** Dealing the river: 5s
Mariners checked
Funkyswede bet - $282.00
Mariners....

whats your play here? would you reraise the flop?


Title: Re: deep stack oop
Post by: MC on September 22, 2008, 07:28:03 PM
Perhaps with a flush draw there a 3bet on the flop might be best, but if you're calling to induce a bluff on the turn then calling a certain % of the time seems fine.

I'm never folding this river. Only 33 and 22 beats you here. (Only ugly beats I can think of are bluffing with 44, or and A4 club draw, both of which would be so ugly).

Plenty of chance he has AK/KQ or similar hand.

As played, if you have him beat, you got the maximum.


Title: Re: deep stack oop
Post by: LuckyLloyd on September 22, 2008, 11:44:46 PM
Any info on villain? Gameflow of this session? How did you or he get those chips? Against certain villains 3 betting flop would be best - and certain ones 3 betting it would carry no value.


Title: Re: deep stack oop
Post by: AlexMartin on September 23, 2008, 06:28:18 AM
his stats make him look pretty weakpassive and bad. Flop semi-bluff raise with a draw is less likely owing to the fact u have  Ac. I think raising the flop is fine v this character, he's playing 38/2.5 just has a super low pfr. If you elect to c/c the turn i think u should c/c the river coz ur hand looks so much like a weak top pair type hand that  cant stand heat. Excited about results :)


Title: Re: deep stack oop
Post by: PocketLady on September 23, 2008, 05:26:57 PM
Personally I think I'm check-raising the turn here.  I'd call the raise on the flop in the hope that he will bet again on the turn, but after the turn there are two flush draws and an (unlikely) straight so would rather not give a freebie river.  AK seems fairly likely here or even KQ, so if you raise the turn and he has AK chances are it is all going in, happy days.  As played I'm flat calling the river, never folding.  Like MC said you are only losing to a set or A4/44, but I think after calling all the way down you are best off not risking your whole stack here in case you have let him catch something.


Title: Re: deep stack oop
Post by: WYSINWYG on September 23, 2008, 05:43:19 PM
Imposs to say what I'd do here on the flop without opponent info. A few play AK like this, but a few would have reraised you pre with AK. I really have to know if I'm up against AK as opposed to a set before I proceed with a pair (a pair).
Easier to get this info by check raising the flop, sets generally push back. I just hate being in the turn river spots you find here, actually kinda lost. A set is making those kinda bets turn/river, as opposed to AK.
AA sometimes not a nice cash game hand, gimme the 3s finding a set any day.