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Title: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 01:13:53 PM
I need to sort out more storage for my business. I already rent a warehouse, which is now full, & costing me a fortune.

I thought a solution would be to buy a ships container, & get it craned into my back garden. However, this could get complaints from the neighbours, & I'm not sure if you need planning consent?

What to do, is this a good idea, or just plain barmy?


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: kinboshi on September 29, 2008, 01:15:44 PM
Barmy, especially if you live on the 15th floor in a block of flats.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Laxie on September 29, 2008, 01:19:42 PM
If you decide to go with it, do yourself a favour and stay out of the crane's way.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: bhoywonder on September 29, 2008, 01:39:41 PM
Did you know that every container in the world has something in common?

true fact

Can you guess?

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Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Jon MW on September 29, 2008, 01:41:40 PM
They're all the same size?


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Bongo on September 29, 2008, 01:43:20 PM
They're all containers?


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Graham C on September 29, 2008, 01:46:32 PM
They've all got names?


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Rod Paradise on September 29, 2008, 02:16:52 PM
Would they give the right conditions for storing old photos etc?

There's no planning permission needed for 'sheds' and some good companies who'll make an outside office etc with all mod cons - they cost though.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: RED-DOG on September 29, 2008, 02:26:15 PM
Got me a shipping container (See pics on my somewhere on my diary) best thing I ever bought.

(Apart from that antiseptic cream)


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Robert HM on September 29, 2008, 02:42:06 PM
A friend is using a container in his herb field, stores a tractor and other stuff, didn't need planning permission as it's not a permanent structure. That's what he says and I think he is right, I don't "do planning" so don't quote me.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: lazaroonie on September 29, 2008, 03:38:08 PM
A friend is using a container in his herb field, stores a tractor and other stuff, didn't need planning permission as it's not a permanent structure. That's what he says and I think he is right, I don't "do planning" so don't quote me.

think it depends,

if you actually buy a container, then it is arguable that you are planning on making it permanent, so therefore permission make be needed.

If howver you hire it for a certain period then that gets round this problem.

Also I think is it not that case that generally "planning permission must always be sought, but not always required" - so basically have a word with the council, and they will tell you what you need.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 04:33:32 PM
Would they give the right conditions for storing old photos etc?

There's no planning permission needed for 'sheds' and some good companies who'll make an outside office etc with all mod cons - they cost though.

I really need it for storing old vinyl records, books & other miscellanea. I'm hoping to do it on the cheap, & a container seems like a quick fix to the problem.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 04:34:59 PM
Got me a shipping container (See pics on my somewhere on my diary) best thing I ever bought.

(Apart from that antiseptic cream)

I found a few places online that are selling them. Where did you get yours from Red?


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 04:38:24 PM
A friend is using a container in his herb field, stores a tractor and other stuff, didn't need planning permission as it's not a permanent structure. That's what he says and I think he is right, I don't "do planning" so don't quote me.

think it depends,

if you actually buy a container, then it is arguable that you are planning on making it permanent, so therefore permission make be needed.

If howver you hire it for a certain period then that gets round this problem.

Also I think is it not that case that generally "planning permission must always be sought, but not always required" - so basically have a word with the council, and they will tell you what you need.


Yes, think I'll need to make an anonymous inquiry.

I think planning restrictions & all red tape are changing,.. something on the radio a few weeks back.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Colchester Kev on September 29, 2008, 04:40:11 PM
Mate of mine has a massive garden, he got a container craned in, and planted conifer thingys along its side .. I doubt permission would be needed unless it intrudes on a neighbours view or blocks sunlight/casts a shadow on a neighbours property.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: RED-DOG on September 29, 2008, 04:44:29 PM
Got me a shipping container (See pics on my somewhere on my diary) best thing I ever bought.

(Apart from that antiseptic cream)

I found a few places online that are selling them. Where did you get yours from Red?

A family in my village hire and sell them. Mine is a 24 footer in good condition, it cost a grand including a lock box and delivery.

I think they should cost more than that, but I'm good at haggling.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 04:46:00 PM
Mate of mine has a massive garden, he got a container craned in, and planted conifer thingys along its side .. I doubt permission would be needed unless it intrudes on a neighbours view or blocks sunlight/casts a shadow on a neighbours property.

Its not a massive garden, but its long & narrow. I could site it at the end, where it would be less obtrusive.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 04:52:36 PM
Got me a shipping container (See pics on my somewhere on my diary) best thing I ever bought.

(Apart from that antiseptic cream)

I found a few places online that are selling them. Where did you get yours from Red?

A family in my village hire and sell them. Mine is a 24 footer in good condition, it cost a grand including a lock box and delivery.

I think they should cost more than that, but I'm good at haggling.

I'm thinking I might need a 40 footer, so I'm looking at 2 grand plus. Thats a good saving on the commercial rents.

I'll make a few phone calls, when I have an idea on planning. I'd also better sound out the neighbours.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: bhoywonder on September 29, 2008, 08:08:41 PM
Its the letter 'U'

all containers have the letter U in their 4 letter prefix..

I happen to work for a container company,I;ll make a few enquiries 2morro if you like...?


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: cia260895 on September 29, 2008, 08:13:49 PM
Mate of mine has a massive garden, he got a container craned in, and planted conifer thingys along its side .. I doubt permission would be needed unless it intrudes on a neighbours view or blocks sunlight/casts a shadow on a neighbours property.

Its not a massive garden, but its long & narrow. I could site it at the end, where it would be less obtrusive.

i   think  as long as it isnt 30% of your garden area you dont need planning permission


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 08:32:32 PM
Its the letter 'U'

all containers have the letter U in their 4 letter prefix..

I happen to work for a container company,I;ll make a few enquiries 2morro if you like...?

Y the U

I'll take a mis-lettered one if they are cheaper, it'll be no use to anyone else  ;D

Thanks mate, let us know the going rate.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: The-Crow on September 29, 2008, 08:35:43 PM
to reach your garden you may need a 50tonne crane

Use a contract lift, so they do all the safety and paperwork

They usually are on a minimum 8 hours hire, cost may be £1000

get a quote before buying the shed


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
Mate of mine has a massive garden, he got a container craned in, and planted conifer thingys along its side .. I doubt permission would be needed unless it intrudes on a neighbours view or blocks sunlight/casts a shadow on a neighbours property.

Its not a massive garden, but its long & narrow. I could site it at the end, where it would be less obtrusive.

i   think  as long as it isnt 30% of your garden area you dont need planning permission

30% may be a problem, I'll need to measure it, but will check with the council.


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: Tonji on September 29, 2008, 08:48:55 PM
to reach your garden you may need a 50tonne crane

Use a contract lift, so they do all the safety and paperwork

They usually are on a minimum 8 hours hire, cost may be £1000

get a quote before buying the shed

jeez £1000.

Do you drive/ride/control a crane, Crow?


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: sofa----king on September 29, 2008, 09:52:46 PM
i know quite a bit about containers i used to own 8x40 fotters and 4x20 footers to store sofas in.,.,.,
cheap.,,dry.,.,pretty safe..,.
20 footer £600 40 footer £900 your best bet to buy them from a shipping agent,sometimes they cant give them away,,,cost for dropping to me were £130 each container but that was to a big yard i had at cardiff market,no big crane needed just forktrucked them of with slings,,,

as for all containers having soething in common,.,,is it they all have vents??/./inside/outside/?.,.,


Title: Re: A Ships Container in my garden.
Post by: bhoywonder on September 29, 2008, 10:03:49 PM
i know quite a bit about containers i used to own 8x40 fotters and 4x20 footers to store sofas in.,.,.,
cheap.,,dry.,.,pretty safe..,.
20 footer £600 40 footer £900 your best bet to buy them from a shipping agent,sometimes they cant give them away,,,cost for dropping to me were £130 each container but that was to a big yard i had at cardiff market,no big crane needed just forktrucked them of with slings,,,

as for all containers having soething in common,.,,is it they all have vents??/./inside/outside/?.,.,


yup thats about right

just get a hi ab thingy,similar to a truck that lifts skips,as long as there is is access to where you need it