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Don't know who this information is best aimed at, but thought it worth sharing :

On monday night, with 55 players at CinCins in glasgow for the £20 tourney, the Riverboat had 66 players.

Clearly there is a market for something decent in the Glasgow poker world if two clubs less than a mile apart can attract over 100 players on a miserable monday night.

hi mate, nice to meet you last monday BTW.

i think DC realises this and thats why he is getting involved in Cin Cin club, as for the river boat, well that type of poker aint poker to me, it bingo for people who cant play poker, with deep pockets.

Go on Mikky, have a go at me lol

2 totally different games as well. £5 rebuy frenzy at one, £20 single rebuy at the other.

I think there are some players who'll stick to one club, 1 style of tourney, then there'll be a few 'floaters' who will play both. So there's plenty of room for both card-rooms.

But like you say - the bodies are there (there were a lot of the Thurday night regulars didn't make it in on the Monday as well).

there is a market

and i also think there is defo a market for single re-buy tounrys like the cinncs does..

ive played stanley no limit re-buys in first 2 hours and its like as you say playing bingo....

it was goods to finally find somwhere you can play what i also call real poker

there is better value for the better player in the small rebuy comp
there is better play but less value in small freezeouts

if i wanted a good game of poker i would stick to the freezeout
but if i was trying to make a profit i would move to the rebuy


lucky for me that i am a hobby player and play for thegame so i would choose the freezeout
but if i was to turn semi pro i would always look for the better value you get in a rebuy

At least a dozen of the 66 at the Boat had busted out of Cin Cin, you could see it coming a mile off. They were gambling like nothing on earth trying to build a stack early only to lose it then go to the Boat for bingo.

The amount of guys moaning that it was one rebuy was unreal but good for the rest of us as we picked them off one by one cos they were "bored"

Rods right both clubs have something to offer.

Iron surely a semi pro would be looking to play cash games rather than rebuys?

I think a 3max re-buy structure would be good. Not too bingo, and it'll build your prize pool a bit more.
Perhaps that's the happy medium that would keep everyone happy.

The odd £100 freezeout would bring folk in from all over scotland if marketed correctly. Dundee did this and got loads of players most of whom were keen to know when the next one would be.

For those whose purse strings can't stretch to that a £15 1 re-buy super-sat might be an idea.

teacake 3 types of pro's

cash game pro
tourny pro
and mixed pro

i never touch cash game so if i decided that poker was no longer a hobby and that i needed to show profit i would have to cut down on last minute flights expensive hotels and look for value tournys which would include rebuys (which i avoid)

Say that to the guy who is over £600 quid richer for his entry fee of £5, no re-buys and no top-ups (he was on Rhowenas table and went out when his poket kings where cracked by pocket 7s and then he went to the boat). The fact remains that, whilst having a large amount of tournament chips to start with encourages good solid poker, people will still play in a maniac fashion, and it works for them. Are you telling me that hyper aggressive players like Gus Hansen and Doyle Brunson have not been successful in their tournament careers?

Who is to say that your version of conservative, selectively aggressive style of poker is the correct defacto style? Likewise, just because you might be playing conservatively because you feel the conditions of the tournament and table are right for that style, doesn't mean that someone else is wrong to be playing differently.

£5 gets you 1000 chips. Thats 10 big blinds. The players that are 'all-in' merchants are playing to a strategy. That is to amass chips on their table. They will not move from that table until the re-buy period finishes. They want as many buy-ins at that table as possible (hopefully not their own) so as to regain those chips later on either before or after the re-buy period finishes through being the better player. And they will do this with a fair amount of ease, given the usual standard of fish that surround them.

They do this week in, week out with consistent money finishes. Even £40-£50 pounds is a tidy investment for a share of £2000-£3000.

You know my feelings on the subject, and you also know that I happen to agree in principle. But remarks like "for people who can't play poker" clearly show your ignorance on the subject (not meant offensively, just an observation...).


I don't need to. You did it yourself!

 :goodpost: re-buy tournaments require different strategy, they are still poker, not bingo, just a different type.

Don't complain, adjust!

I call it bingo myself. The £5 game anyway. The price is so low that it encourages all and sundry to re-buy, because its free, right!?  >:? Its meant in jest, at least when I say it ;)

An adendum. A bad player will go whereever there is a game. A typically good player will prefer freezeouts. A top player on a budget will prefer the re-buy.

Adendum to my adendum. Why do I personally play at both? Well, I can honestly say that I believe without the cincinatti 1 re-buy Thursday game, I would have been entering the Stanley £250 freezeout like a rabbit caught between the headlights. Until Cincins, there just hasn't been anywhere for me to play that format of tournament. I don't count online.

I continue to play in the tournaments that offer me the most bang for my buck. Rebuy with only 15-20 players, for example, is a no no. Riverboat offers me big pots. Cincins offers me people who I would class as friends and the chance to increase my experience in a format that is most like that used in many major/main events on the EPT calendar. Also, although the standard of play is generally better than the £5 game accross the road, I know I will avoid most of the local professional gamblers, as they will be in the tournament with the bigger pot.

There are also a regular bunch who will be attending Wabash almost exclusively. In all I'd say the regular number of poker players in Glasgow is 200+

My post was not actualy intended to start a debate on what is the better version of poker, merely to point out that in their various guises, there are more than enough players out there to make a club like this viable.

In addition to these two venues, I know of two pubs in the lanarkshire area who also, on a monday night average over 50 players per tournament.

It is definitely on the up. I dont think we have reached the critical mass yet.

I would certainly love to play more at CinCins, the one thing I would love to see is more "knowledge" about tournaments - eg the first day I joined (a thursday night), I couldnt stay to play, but there was a big tournament about to start. I picked up the card at the door which had details of tournaments on seven days a week. I came back the next night to find I was the only person there. I was told "just phone up on the night to see what is on that night", but I need to have a bit more planning than that.

Thursdays is the big night (for now). Not sure what DC has planned, but stick with the Thursday being the tournament night until you hear different.

When they stick in some PC's for online poker I'll never be away from Cincci's. I'm sure this will bring others in on nights other than thirsdays aswell. DC says this is the plan.

Sid says he might put a bed in the back for me.

Thats a point, I forgot my laptop last week :D

poker is on the up in glasgow but untill the management of the card rooms get there acts together poker will never attract big fields for big comps

no forward planning, very few super sats, no advertising, poor game choices and date clashes left right and centre

i would like to support scottish poker but it makes very little sense for me to do so

Tank is right you've got to adapt.

I'm not against rebuys, my first cash was in a tenner rebuy where I lifted 250 bangers with no rebuy or top up. Its just not my cup of tea but I can see why there are plenty that play them, firstly cos of the value & secondly it was the only option for beginners on a tight budget.

What annoyed me the other night was the amount of "mouths" trying to get it changed to unlimited rebuys even though it was billed as such. There are plenty of rebuy tourneys in Glasgow already which is why Cin Cins is doing something different.

Iron my other point was that cash games take place at Cin Cin but not at the Boat or Stanley so there is a choice. There are also usually STTs.

Mikky I agree with most of what you say but it would have been nice if you could have posted some congrats on this board to those who cashed as you have had a lot of good wishes recently on here

BTW Tank Cissys or whatever your calling it wont catch on  ;tracet; I've told you already its Cin Cin  :)up

it did take you three hours to bite, but my goodness was it worth it!

He he he

Mikky "up like a salmon" T  8)

you will learn over time mate, dont worry :kiv: :kiv: :kiv: :kiv: :kiv: :kiv: :kiv:

Hmm... make a post then! I can't congratulate whoever won if you haven't posted about it :D Or did you make a post on the end of one of the other posts? Congrats anyway man - although in person surely is enough :D

i thought you heard:

1st - £550 - Blondite - Wellchief
2nd - £360
3rd - £280 - Blondite - DJKebab
4th - £220 - Blondite - Teacake
5th - £190
6th - £140 - Blondite - Dave - Me!!!
7th - £100

4 out of the seven money finishes were Blondites, thats amazing in my book, especially after 5 of the final 8 of the MCM final last week were blondites!

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Nice one :) Well done guys. I was upstairs in the cash game throwing all my money away.

Like ironside, I don't like cash games.

IMO you can either be a great cash game player, or a great tournament player. I'm definately not a great cash game player!

Agreed, cant play cash to save myself but love tournament poker  :)up

What was the cash game? Are they still playing Six Card Omaha?

What's the buy-in at present?

no they havent played that lately, its was NLHE £20 min

as was said before, they will put on whatever anyone wants to play.

Not quite Dave, the big table was still 6 card Omaha £300 buy in.

But when there's enough of us smaller stake folk in we get a £20 buy in NL HE cash game.

that you can lose a grand in

True - that's the problem when the guys organising the games are big stake players - the concept of a maximum buy in to a cash game seems to escape them  :D You end up with a £20 cash game, blinds £1 & £1, with over 3 grand on the table.....

We're slowly getting there though.

hi,
new poster. i was in cin cin on monday and couldnt believe the change in quality of poker from the lobby mclob lob poker that we get in every other game in glasgow. it was on monday i heard about thursday, and was wondering if anyone knew start times etc, as it was 7 30 monday but heard that its 830 on thursdays and i cant find any cin cin websites that can clarify.

The Cincinatti website is currently under development. Thursdays start time will be 8:30pm as per usual. The phone number is 0141 418 2399 if you want to call to check, you can also pre-book your seat and pay when you arrive.

The problem is not just that Rod, its when its been operating for an hour or so and the table has accumulated a lot of chips. With the half hour announcement before leaving rule, you end up with £20 buy in just not being enough when 2 or 3 people have over a ton.

I'll be down tonight for my Cin cin Debut. Really looking forward too it. When does registration close?

8:30pm is when the tournament is supposed to start. They haven't started until 9pm for the last three weeks though.

Cheers mate, Ill be down sharpish anyway.

:hello:

Mikky I hear what you are saying, but I will say that I came back from £300 in the hole to £670 and that was from a £20 buy in at the cash game there was a few grand on the table that night too, The cash game is very different from tourney play as you really are playing the man and not the cards too much, there is so much stealing going on in the cash game that you cang snooker a bugger when they are stealing, mind you it heps to get some fish on the table, monday night was a tough table.

Mikky, Rod,

I was under the impression that the Thursday game was a 21:00 start, am I wrong or has it changed. It usually doesn't get going until around 21:10 or so if I remember correctly...

Definitely think there needs to be more structure in terms of tournaments and what's on each night, I had a couple of mates who headed down for the first time Wednesday night, signed in and walked in only to find just Sid and one other staff member there! They promptly had to leave again...

we have touched on this before, the only real night that you are guarenteed a game is thursday at present, however Rod did mention that last weeks monday is sheduled again for this week, 7:30pm start

Have some patience guys. Things will start to happen in about 3 weeks. Meanwhile good luck to all.

is there a game tonight, monday 21st.

if so, is it same as last monday? with a 7 30 start

yeah the same game is on tonight

just to back you up mate, Takeshi's castle is one of the best programmes on TV!

"If your ring gets penetrated, your out the game"....Craig Charles you are the Man!

I watched about 100 of them. Always at the end you'd hear Craig say something along the lines of, "no winners this time on Takeshi's, surely we'll have one next time"

I kept watching the show to see what would happen, what majestical fanfare, what mad celebrations would occur when someone finally managed to elude the Emerald guards and storm the castle. What grand, out of this world, prize beyond imagination would be given to the winner.

Finally, someone did win, and all that was seen was a smiling Japanese bloke and Mr Charles saying "We have a winner this time on Takeshi's" before the credits rolled.

No fireworks, no scantily clad woman, no screaming masses or elaborate prize presentation of any kind. Never even found out what it was the bloke won for achieving the impossible. I was a little dissapointed but had to smile at the dry wit of it all being such a non-event. I'm sure it was intended that way and I continue to be a big fan of the show.