Title: Monkey staking Post by: matt674 on September 30, 2008, 07:40:54 AM Proposal
My plan is to turn $2000 into $20000 playing the stars $20 180 player sit and go's. Having just moved house recently and starting to settle down i want to try and rebuild a decent bankroll on pokerstars, my cash in the warm up has helped with the start of my proposal as it is my half of the $2000 i will be looking for in by bankroll building quest. The remaining 50% will be sold as 1% $20 shares so for as little as 1 bunch of bananas (ok a large bunch) you can stake the monkey :) I propose to build the bankroll playing nothing but 180 runner $20 sit and go's - these fill up quite regularly on pokerstars nowadays as they still feature at the top of the tournament tab in the stars main lobby. I will probably manage to play 4 or 5 in the evenings when i will be playing. My aim for the challenge is to build a bankroll but i understand that potential investors may want a quicker return on their money so my proposal is that on the final day of every month any profit that has been made will be transfered back into your stars account but that i will keep your original stake along with my original stake and my profit within the bankroll alloted to the challenge. In the event (hopefully not!) that i have a losing month then no money will be paid on the final day of the month and that a payout the following month will only occur once the previous months loss has been recovered. All the 180 runner sit and go's are tracked on OPR and i believe that sharkscope also covers them (whether they cover them all i am unsure as i don't often use the site). You can see from my sharkscope graph that i have had success playing these $20 sit and goes as there is a noticable increase on my graph as i haven't really played that many sit and go's in my 5 years on the site. As well as the 180 runner sit and go's also propose to play 1 of the $10 rebuy's on a sunday lunchtime for a seat into the sunday warm up on the sunday's when i will have the chance to play the warm up. I will never buy in directly to the warm up, i will only play it if winning a seat. OPR will actually record the result of the satellite but it wont log accurately the total buy in for the rebuys and add on - i will record the total staked though i the thread i intend to start during the bankroll building challenge. *** I will play no other tournaments on stars during this challenge and therefore my results will be easily traceable on OPR *** I am making this proposal as it will help me focus in grinding out my bankroll playing games where i believe i have a larger edge over the rest of the field, rather than trying to spin up my bankroll taking shots at the big money tournaments on stars where one win would achieve the objective but where my edge (if any) is only minimal. If anybody is interested please let me know either on the thread or by PM or if anyone has any questions please let me know. My new job unfortunately doesnt allow access to blonde but will respond to everyone in the evenings - thank you for your time in reading this :)up Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: byronkincaid on September 30, 2008, 09:18:34 AM 5% for me plz
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: DaveShoelace on September 30, 2008, 10:22:23 AM PM sent, some questions just to clear things up:
I assume the profits are a 50/50 split plus eventually stake back (thats implied but just clarifying)? We have the same split of any warm up profits? The staking ends when you have made an $18,000 profit, is that correct? i.e turning the $2000 into $20,000? Will there be an option to review say every month and take back the stake, or is it locked in until the above criteria is met? Have you ever took the entry fees from an SNG and ran to a bookies with it? Generally, how many times are you prepared to reload in the warm up satelittes? Do you have a set system of say, no more than $30 in one rebuy or is it random? I like the proposal, I think the stars 180 sngs are a superb place for a horse to grind and I kinda like the sunday warm up idea too. Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2008, 10:24:57 AM Matt you have a PM :)up
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: TheChipPrince on September 30, 2008, 10:35:41 AM Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Bongo on September 30, 2008, 10:36:13 AM Could anyone accept some tilt $ to ship to monkey on stars?
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: DaveShoelace on September 30, 2008, 10:39:48 AM Could anyone accept some tilt $ to ship to monkey on stars? +1 I also require that service Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: dino1980 on September 30, 2008, 10:54:12 AM I would like 10% of your action please Matt.
One question though Matt, I know your original proposal says 1% = $20, so are you planning on paying all rake, or is 1% actually going to be $22? Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Graham C on September 30, 2008, 10:57:01 AM Stick me down for 5% please
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: EvilPie on September 30, 2008, 10:58:33 AM 20% (or whatever's left if I'm too late) pls mate.
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Bongo on September 30, 2008, 10:59:11 AM Could anyone accept some tilt $ to ship to monkey on stars? Would like 5% if this can be done! Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Graham C on September 30, 2008, 11:21:22 AM Could anyone accept some tilt $ to ship to monkey on stars? Would like 5% if this can be done! Happy to help out with this Bongo if you need it. Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Bongo on September 30, 2008, 11:27:40 AM Thanks mate... just need to see if there is any % left now :)
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: booder on September 30, 2008, 11:43:10 AM good luck with this Matt..i would deffo back if i was rolled.
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: EvilPie on September 30, 2008, 12:14:15 PM Thanks mate... just need to see if there is any % left now :) I'll sell 5% of my action for $120. Transfers can be done in cash at any motorway service station. Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Bongo on September 30, 2008, 12:18:07 PM I'd gladly accept that as long as you agreed to play £2 turnovers while we did the exchange... The way you run I'd be free rolling!
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: EvilPie on September 30, 2008, 12:23:18 PM Good point.
Tell you what if there's not enough left you can have the 5% at face value as long as I never have to play £2 turnover ever again. I think it's more of a spectator sport for me. Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: StuartHopkin on September 30, 2008, 02:21:57 PM Thanks mate... just need to see if there is any % left now :) I'll sell 5% of my action for $120. Transfers can be done in cash at any motorway service station. FYP Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Royal Flush on September 30, 2008, 04:58:30 PM Can i take anything left please!
P.S. When i stake people they run good. Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Claw75 on September 30, 2008, 04:59:31 PM sigh - monkey boy didn't even tell me he was going to do this - I shudda got first refusal!!!!
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2008, 05:00:16 PM sigh - monkey boy didn't even tell me he was going to do this - I shudda got first refusal!!!! You just get to spend his profit. Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Claw75 on September 30, 2008, 05:01:50 PM sigh - monkey boy didn't even tell me he was going to do this - I shudda got first refusal!!!! You just get to spend his profit. well, booder said he'd back him if he was rolled. Maybe if I offer to roll on my back he'll let me have some? Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2008, 05:10:14 PM sigh - monkey boy didn't even tell me he was going to do this - I shudda got first refusal!!!! You just get to spend his profit. well, booder said he'd back him if he was rolled. Maybe if I offer to roll on my back he'll let me have some? Who, booder? Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Claw75 on September 30, 2008, 05:13:52 PM sigh - monkey boy didn't even tell me he was going to do this - I shudda got first refusal!!!! You just get to spend his profit. well, booder said he'd back him if he was rolled. Maybe if I offer to roll on my back he'll let me have some? Who, booder? sigh Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Longy on September 30, 2008, 05:41:57 PM So rigged this is clearly biased against people who actually are awake during the morning, i would have got involved but i guess im too late.
Gl monkey and backers. Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Nakor on September 30, 2008, 06:54:12 PM I run so bad - ffs what a time to post.
Good luck Monkey and backers. Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: matt674 on September 30, 2008, 08:03:52 PM Just like to say thanks to everyone who has shown an interest, have PM'd all those who have taken the time out to reply, didn't realize that there is a 15 pm's per hour limit (i need to find more friends to gossip with :D) so while i wait i can come on to answer these questions
I assume the profits are a 50/50 split plus eventually stake back (thats implied but just clarifying)? Yes this is correct We have the same split of any warm up profits? yes, any money won from when the bankroll building quest gets underway will go towards the total profits paid out - hopefully i win the warm up next time i play it and we all go to the banana shop happy :) The staking ends when you have made an $18,000 profit, is that correct? i.e turning the $2000 into $20,000? Yes, this is the plan - all stake money will then be returned with the final profit returns Will there be an option to review say every month and take back the stake, or is it locked in until the above criteria is met? might have to expand on this question but if for some personal reason you need to pull out as you need the money for something else then at the end of the month along with the profit (hopefully!) for that month i will also return your stake money. In the event of the bankroll being in the red then you will get the proportion % of stake money back as to what is in the bankroll. If someone needs to pull out for some reason then i will invite someone else to take their place to keep the bankroll to a 50/50 level Have you ever took the entry fees from an SNG and ran to a bookies with it? thought about it at luton but didnt know where there was a bookies open at 3am Generally, how many times are you prepared to reload in the warm up satelittes? Do you have a set system of say, no more than $30 in one rebuy or is it random? normally i have a limit of $50 for a $10 rebuy - but then sometimes if i feel as though the table is there for the taking then i will stay, to be honest though that doesn't happen very often. One question though Matt, I know your original proposal says 1% = $20, so are you planning on paying all rake, or is 1% actually going to be $22? the rake will come out of the bankroll - i am selling shares to raise a $2000 bankroll to play the 180 runner sit and goes, technically that doesnt give me enough to play 100 tourneys but fingers crossed that i'm showing a profit by the time i am approaching my 100th tournament! :) Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: Graham C on September 30, 2008, 08:10:50 PM When we starting? Tomorrow? Good luck Monkey!
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2008, 08:15:04 PM (http://myfunnypics.org/d/640-1/Funny+monkey+sticks+out+tongue+and+gives+the+thumbs+up.jpg)
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: gatso on September 30, 2008, 08:20:59 PM if anyone wants to join me I'm going to send some abusive PMs to monkeyboy as he can't reply
Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2008, 08:29:11 PM if anyone wants to join me I'm going to send some abusive PMs to monkeyboy as he can't reply rotflmfao Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: gatso on September 30, 2008, 08:31:42 PM if anyone wants to join me I'm going to send some abusive PMs to monkeyboy as he can't reply rotflmfao it's great, he seriously can't reply. he has to text his response, gonna cost him a fortune Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: matt674 on September 30, 2008, 08:34:25 PM As tomorrow is the first of the month then that seems like a good time to start so then anyone who wants to track my results on OPR will find it easier - any result that appears on there from tomorrow will count in the bankroll building. I will be posting on a thread on the online section and will be "searchable" on pokerstars at all times so people can see which tables i am playing on. i wont be playing every night but when i do play i will try keep results up to date as much as possible :)
and you can abuse me as much as you want - Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: matt674 on September 30, 2008, 08:35:00 PM if anyone wants to join me I'm going to send some abusive PMs to monkeyboy as he can't reply rotflmfao it's great, he seriously can't reply. he has to text his response, gonna cost him a fortune 500 free texts per month FTW!! ;) Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: matt674 on October 31, 2008, 11:37:07 PM Tourneys Played Total Staked Cashes Final Tables Amount won Profit 1% stake returns Oct 2008 104 $2405 14 6 $2619.87 +$227.65 +$2.2765 Totals The first month comes to a close and thanks to a couple of cashes on the penultimate night means that it ends in profit so all monkey stakers - albeit a small one but then as the saying goes "from small acorns giant oak trees grow" I'll PM all stakers over the weekend to find out the best way to refund winnings, hopefully a trend that will continue in the months to come :)up Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: byronkincaid on November 01, 2008, 12:09:13 AM well done making a profit
good luck next month Title: Re: Monkey staking Post by: matt674 on November 01, 2008, 01:44:30 PM right, have contacted all stakers and started returning profits - unfortunately i've hit my limit of PM's again so if you've let me know best way to send money then i'll pay it back using that method :)
if i have problems with anyone you'll have to wait an hour :D |