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Title: Wiz question
Post by: thetank on October 03, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
When I'm wanting to enter a hand into Wiz manually (eg one that's been posted on a forum), the problem I have is I will only be able to use the push or call analysis modes.

If a hand I'm entering that would involve using a raise and and re-raise, or pushing over the limpers analysis modes, I'm unable to do this as I can't change a player action to anything other than push or fold.


Is there a way round this? Copying and pasting hand historys never works for me.




Title: Re: Wiz question
Post by: Longy on October 03, 2008, 04:20:25 PM
When I'm wanting to enter a hand into Wiz manually (eg one that's been posted on a forum), the problem I have is I will only be able to use the push or call analysis modes.

If a hand I'm entering that would involve using a raise and and re-raise, or pushing over the limpers analysis modes, I'm unable to do this as I can't change a player action to anything other than push or fold.


Is there a way round this? Copying and pasting hand historys never works for me.

Unfortunately can't give a screenshot as I'm on my phone. You can change the action of players by clicking on their action, for example it says raise to 300, you can change that to push/raise to another amount/ call or fold.


 



Title: Re: Wiz question
Post by: thetank on October 03, 2008, 04:26:07 PM
Is this the one you mean, coz I can't get it to say anything other than either push or fold.

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tigmong/wizprob.jpg)


Title: Re: Wiz question
Post by: thetank on October 03, 2008, 04:30:23 PM
Also can't get to enter anything other than push or fold in this action selection screen.

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tigmong/wizprob2.jpg)


Title: Re: Wiz question
Post by: thetank on October 03, 2008, 04:40:38 PM
This screenshot is from a sample hand that I changed all the stacks to reflect the situation. It lets me choose call or raise... in these, as it does with hands that I import.

(Still no much good to me unless I can find out a way to change the HERO to UTG. :( )

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tigmong/wizprob3.jpg)

It will be tempting for me to make sure I make a raise UTG 4-handed in my next sit n go, just so I can get the thing done.



Title: Re: Wiz question
Post by: Longy on October 03, 2008, 04:52:36 PM
hmmm it appears wiz will only let you change actions before you. That does make some logical sense as wiz ultimately only analyses all situations. In this example you make it 500 you will get flatted and that can't be analysed


Title: Re: Wiz question
Post by: thetank on October 03, 2008, 04:57:32 PM
I'm in an e-mail conversation with support about it, but was wondering (as is usually the case) if I was missing something obvious.

I'm wanting to analyze getting shoved over ultimately.

I'm interested in situations where you are 2nd stack on the bubble and open shove a strong hand for more than 10 big blinds to avoid getting your smaller raise shoved over by hyper aggresive big stack
I want to compare the EV of the stright shove, to the EV of how your hand holds up once you call his shove (at various ranges for big stack re-raising you).


PokerStars Game #20840189123: Tournament #111484078, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/10/01 11:29:08 ET
Table '111484078 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 4: Lifas (2180 in chips)
Seat 5: mcurnow (3585 in chips)
Seat 7: Quitrent (5645 in chips)
Seat 8: jockyee (2090 in chips)
jockyee: posts small blind 100
Lifas: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mcurnow [Jh Jc]
mcurnow: raises 3385 to 3585 and is all-in
Quitrent: folds
jockyee: folds
Lifas: folds
Uncalled bet (3385) returned to mcurnow
mcurnow collected 500 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 500 | Rake 0
Seat 4: Lifas (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: mcurnow collected (500)
Seat 7: Quitrent (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jockyee (small blind) folded before Flop






PokerStars Game #20840204145: Tournament #111484078, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/10/01 11:29:54 ET
Table '111484078 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 4: Lifas (2180 in chips)
Seat 5: mcurnow (3885 in chips)
Seat 7: Quitrent (5445 in chips)
Seat 8: jockyee (1990 in chips)
Lifas: posts the ante 25
mcurnow: posts the ante 25
Quitrent: posts the ante 25
jockyee: posts the ante 25
Quitrent: posts small blind 100
jockyee: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mcurnow [Kh Kd]
Lifas: folds
mcurnow: raises 3660 to 3860 and is all-in
Quitrent: folds
jockyee: folds
Uncalled bet (3660) returned to mcurnow
mcurnow collected 600 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 600 | Rake 0
Seat 4: Lifas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mcurnow (button) collected (600)
Seat 7: Quitrent (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: jockyee (big blind) folded before Flop


Both hands look like they might be better off with a smaller raise, but I want to play around with the math before I give someone bad advice.