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Title: Am I losing value with AJ here?
Post by: ThatsSoMinusEV on October 03, 2008, 11:37:48 PM
PokerStars Game #20899049580: Tournament #110965673, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2008/10/03 15:58:56 ET
Table '110965673 112' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: roderer (31859 in chips)
Seat 2: ich bin 18 (2692 in chips)
Seat 3: TheIronFrog (18049 in chips)
Seat 4: predrag2 (17855 in chips)
Seat 5: fasteddie667 (11925 in chips)
Seat 6: golden lion (40763 in chips)
Seat 7: gofast1111 (49160 in chips)
Seat 8: Honore14 (30378 in chips)
Seat 9: xVincitore (11940 in chips) is sitting out
roderer: posts the ante 75
ich bin 18: posts the ante 75
TheIronFrog: posts the ante 75
predrag2: posts the ante 75
fasteddie667: posts the ante 75
golden lion: posts the ante 75
gofast1111: posts the ante 75
Honore14: posts the ante 75
xVincitore: posts the ante 75
predrag2: posts small blind 400
fasteddie667: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheIronFrog [Jd Ac]
golden lion: folds
gofast1111: folds
Honore14: folds
xVincitore: folds
roderer: folds
ich bin 18: folds
TheIronFrog: raises 1125 to 1925
predrag2: calls 1525
fasteddie667: folds
*** FLOP *** [6d Kc Js]
predrag2: checks
TheIronFrog: checks
*** TURN *** [6d Kc Js] [8c]
predrag2: bets 2400
TheIronFrog: calls 2400
*** RIVER *** [6d Kc Js 8c] [5d]
predrag2: checks
TheIronFrog: checks

My image was very tight. I hadn't played a hand for 1.5 hours after a tripled up with top set.

Villian was kinda spewy with min-raising and insta-donk-min-betting. I figure he's donk so can I Vbet this river? I didn't due to the pot-to-stack ratio factor, and a standard bet wud be a big chunk of my stack.

Is my line throughout the hand ok? Flop I don't want to be c/r'sed off a good SD hand, and turn I figured raising is pretty bad.



Title: Re: Am I losing value with AJ here?
Post by: MC on October 04, 2008, 12:12:46 AM
I think check on the river is fine, but don't understand why you didn't bet the flop...


Title: Re: Am I losing value with AJ here?
Post by: Royal Flush on October 04, 2008, 12:39:33 AM
I think check on the river is fine, but don't understand why you didn't bet the flop...

Reverse for me check flop is fine checking river is criminal


Title: Re: Am I losing value with AJ here?
Post by: ThatsSoMinusEV on October 04, 2008, 12:42:53 AM
I have lots of showdown value that can't stand a check-raise. I don't think many jacks and c/r'ing but QT is the only hand we are ahead that might bluff us off.

Also, how much would you bet the river? Why and how would you respond to a c/r?


Title: Re: Am I losing value with AJ here?
Post by: MC on October 04, 2008, 12:49:56 AM
Reverse for me check flop is fine checking river is criminal

Oops, just re-read hand, was thinking you checked to him...

I see what you mean about showdown value, it's a pretty safe flop to check on. As long as you bet flops like this a certain percentage of the time. If you end up showing down the AJ you're going to lose credibility on your C-bets when you flop air...

On the basis of his river check he can't really be trapping here, he'd lead out 99% of the time with anything that had you beat pretty much. Unless he's playing K rag scared or something, you probs have him crushed.

I like a 3k value bet on this river...