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£10 rebuy tourney after buy in period completed. About 30 left in. BB - 400. Average chips - 6k.

8 players on table.

UTG - Stack 7k Not long joined the table I know nothing about.

Me - UTG +2 - 7.5k.    Generally seen as playing tight - mostly big hands at showdown.

Button - 5k.  Agressive post flop. Tends to play bluffs in position - probably too many.

UTG Bets 1.2k

I look down at JJ - I call.

Button calls.

All others folded.

Flop QQ8 ( 2hearts)

BB checks . What now ?

Better to go all in pre flop ?


 

shove pre cos not enough chips after flop to fold anyway so not much fold equity

good enough flop for JJ and also good place for all in

I would ship my chips in preflop.

Having called I would be all in on this flop.

you start hand with like 15 bb's which is all in or fold mode most of the time anyway but with a raise before you, looking down at  Jd Jh is almost an eastenders act then all in or an insta all in over top of a raise pre hoping to put pressure back onto your opponent and awaiting his sik outdraw

What were the blinds?

You should definitely be raising preflop here.

You now have an un-get-away-able-from flop, and if the big blind has QT, then see above!

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£10 rebuy tourney after buy in period completed. About 30 left in. BB - 400. Average chips - 6k.

Would have noticed if it said 200/400 :)

Therefore shoving preflop is over the top....just a nice standard raise would do the trick

We have 7.5k and it's been raised to 1200 before us...

Surely time to shove?

I really need to read these things more closely. I didn't realise it had been open raised.

Shove shove shove!

it was over the top a minute ago, no wait im sure u ment GET IT ALL IN OVER THE TOP :)

flat calling pre is terrible.

Shoving pre as an open raise would have been over the top...Shoving to a raise certainly isn't...

 I hear what your saying Alex and you're probably right. With such a short stack I would not normally flat call here.

The 3 reasons I did was because :

I did not know the UTG player. To me raising UTG, with 7 players behind you,  with 1/6 of your stack for a typically solid player would normally mean a very good hand AJ+, TT +. Here I'm dominating AJ and TT, but loosing badly to AA - QQ. It's possible I suppose by going all in I might have made him fold AQ and have some fold equity there, but hes certainly not folding any other premium hands.

I was comfortable playing at the table and whilst the stacks were getting relatively low, generally I'd rather take my chances elsewhere than gamble on what could well be a coin flip.

I had position on UTG player after flop.

I did even consider folding here but couldn't make myself do it !

What is your plan for the flop then?

lol flop AJJ obv

 It was a bit of a wait and see plan to be honest. Certainly if the flop was favourable (no aces) I was happy to get involved .

As it happened I pushed thinking UTG probably had AK, and I was also probably beating button who could have called pre flop with wide range of hands. Button folded, UTG took some time but eventually called with KK. The miracle Jack didn't come.

After the hand I thought it would have been better strategy to check to the button, who probably been relied on to bet. Im fairly sure UTG is new to casino and not familiar with buttons play. If UTG then goes all in then I have received more information and can fold because I'm probably beaten. If UTG calls a small bet or folds, Im likely to be winning and can make a powerful check raise all in.

If Button goes all in and UTG folds, theres a strong likdelihood that I'm winning and I would have called.

(by the way button said he had TT after the hand)

Call him a slowroller and stab him in the eye, then come on here and post a cold deck story