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Title: should i could i would i Post by: Ironside on October 11, 2008, 09:24:35 PM get away from this?
PokerStars Game #21113309692: Tournament #113565506, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/10/11 16:20:49 ET Table '113565506 14' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: tandwiel007 (1500 in chips) Seat 2: pepedropro (1490 in chips) Seat 3: tehogwillie (1480 in chips) Seat 4: Mustache54 (1500 in chips) Seat 5: redmanron187 (1500 in chips) Seat 6: norrit84 (1500 in chips) Seat 7: Ironside (1500 in chips) Seat 8: bags3051 (1400 in chips) Seat 9: ottopark1 (1630 in chips) tehogwillie: posts small blind 10 Mustache54: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [Ac As] redmanron187: calls 20 norrit84: calls 20 Ironside: raises 40 to 60 bags3051: folds ottopark1: folds tandwiel007: folds pepedropro: folds tehogwillie: folds Mustache54: calls 40 redmanron187: calls 40 norrit84: calls 40 *** FLOP *** [4d 3d 4h] Mustache54: checks redmanron187: checks norrit84: checks Ironside: bets 180 Mustache54: raises 180 to 360 redmanron187: folds norrit84: folds Title: Re: should i could i would i Post by: thetank on October 11, 2008, 09:29:39 PM Raise more pre
After two limpers at level one, I don't know what your plan is when you are just tripling the blind. It's inviting a 4 way pot where everybody gets a crack at your stack with implied odds of about 35 to 1. Make it at least 100 pre imo. Title: Re: should i could i would i Post by: gatso on October 11, 2008, 09:47:33 PM Raise more pre After two limpers at level one, I don't know what your plan is when you are just tripling the blind. It's inviting a 4 way pot where everybody gets a crack at your stack with implied odds of about 35 to 1. Make it at least 100 pre imo. exactly this. 100 minimum, probs a touch more at this level. there are times when it may be ok to play AA weakly pre flop, entering a pot after 2 limpers is not one of them. don't even bother analysing this hand postflop imo, just never get in this position again and you won't have to worry about it in the future Title: Re: should i could i would i Post by: Bertpup on October 11, 2008, 11:04:58 PM Ship it in uberly fast.
Title: Re: should i could i would i Post by: EvilPie on October 12, 2008, 03:21:35 AM Raise more pre After two limpers at level one, I don't know what your plan is when you are just tripling the blind. It's inviting a 4 way pot where everybody gets a crack at your stack with implied odds of about 35 to 1. Make it at least 100 pre imo. This. A nice pot raise up to 110 would be about perfect. Unfortunately in a 4 way pot your aces might as well be any other set mining pair if you come up against any strong opposition. Your chances of being up against jj, qq or kk are very slim because they would've raised more pre. Fair enough you're beating a few hands that play this flop strongly but if you value your tournament life you've got to be ready to fold. Don't get me wrong, I'm going nowhere here and all my chips go in but I'm not confident of being ahead. Best hope is that you're up against a decent draw and even then you're not a big favourite. Title: Re: should i could i would i Post by: Cf on October 12, 2008, 05:46:52 PM The preflop stuff has been said...
On the flop I think I would call this. I don't see any point shoving - if he's got a 4 you're in a world of hurt. If he's got the oesd/fd then he will probably call and you're not massively ahead. You have position on him so you can see what happens on the turn. If he leads into the turn then this'd be the part where I probably give up. If he checks, I'd probably check behind to keep the pot small. My guess though is the diamond draw - I see a lot of people do these silly little min-raises as flush draw semi-bluffs. Title: Re: should i could i would i Post by: scotty2hatty on October 13, 2008, 01:01:30 AM what does everyone think about folding preflop in this spot?
Title: Re: should i could i would i Post by: Longy on October 13, 2008, 01:37:59 AM what does everyone think about folding preflop in this spot? I would consider that a leak. Title: Re: should i could i would i Post by: ChipRich on October 13, 2008, 07:08:06 AM what does everyone think about folding preflop in this spot? I dont mind this line, probs better than ever folding on this flop. But yeh.. Make it more pre, 100-120 is good. I usually 3x it plus the amount of limpers this early, so 5x in this instance. |