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Title: BEST MOVE
Post by: NEVES on October 12, 2008, 12:00:05 AM
MTT First level, 10 handed, blinds 25/50 my stack 6,100
I am MP holding Ad Ahrt.

UTG, Seat 2&3 fold seat 4 call, I raise 200 6&7 fold button calls sb& bb fold
seat 4 calls pot 675.

FLOP  Qh Tc 8d, seat 4 check i bet 400,   button calls  seat 4 folds
pot . 1475

TURN  4h  i bet 800 he calls pot 3075,   (his stack his around 5500)

RIVER Td

What would be the optimum play from here



Many thanks
  NEVES.




Title: Re: BEST MOVE
Post by: Graham C on October 12, 2008, 12:03:36 AM
I'd check, hope he doesn't bet too much and then call.

Prob wrong btw.


Title: Re: BEST MOVE
Post by: thetank on October 12, 2008, 12:12:47 AM
I'd check, hope he doesn't bet too much and then call.

Prob wrong btw.

Check calling is probably the line, but there's no way oppo can bet too much in this spot.

Pot is 7k+ and we have about 2k back.

I'd prefer if he put as all-in than if he bet 1k in fact.
The former is more likely a bluff we can pick off.


Title: Re: BEST MOVE
Post by: gatso on October 12, 2008, 12:16:32 AM
I'd check, hope he doesn't bet too much and then call.

Prob wrong btw.

what do you mean by 'hope he doesn't bet too much'? surely you're check calling any amount here? we made the decision to commit to this pot when we called the turn raise, that was the time if any to back out, not on the river with these stack sizes


Title: Re: BEST MOVE
Post by: Ironside on October 12, 2008, 12:56:07 AM
you still have 4700 back your not pot committed


Title: Re: BEST MOVE
Post by: gatso on October 12, 2008, 01:02:24 AM
you still have 4700 back your not pot committed

no you don't. you started with 6100 and have put in 3675=2425 behind, less than 1/3 of the 7625 pot

7625


Title: Re: BEST MOVE
Post by: Ironside on October 12, 2008, 01:32:01 AM

TURN  4h  i bet 800 he calls pot 3075,   (his stack his around 5500)




i think that should read he calls, pot is now 3075


Title: Re: BEST MOVE
Post by: gatso on October 12, 2008, 01:41:52 AM
ahh, I see what you mean.

pointless thread atm then as me and tank have read the hh one way and you and silo another.

can you clarify please neves?


Title: Re: BEST MOVE
Post by: MANTIS01 on October 12, 2008, 01:42:13 AM
Yeah, I would definitely check here with the intention of calling any bet. For all the times you're going to pay-off villain's full house, 9-J or 10 you will need to make chips from hands like K-J when you're ahead. So you need to give hands that would fold to a bet the opportunity to bluff at the pot to compensate you.