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Title: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: Hawkeye1976 on October 13, 2008, 01:04:22 AM
Hi,

A friend of mine won £600 by betting on tier.

15 minutes later a manager came over and told him the couiper had made a mistake and made him give the money back?
(With help from intimidation from security)

Is this legal to do once a bet has been paid out?

Then after some arguing they banned him as he left.

Sould I tell him to get the gaming commision involved?

Thanks
Steve




Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: scotty2hatty on October 13, 2008, 01:09:11 AM
i have no idea but i'll say yes


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: Wardonkey on October 13, 2008, 01:14:35 AM
He was paid incorrectly, and got barred for acting like a prat when the casino tried to correct the error?

Scandalous.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: phatomch on October 13, 2008, 08:38:44 AM
Hi,

A friend of mine won £600 by betting on tier.

15 minutes later a manager came over and told him the couiper had made a mistake and made him give the money back?
(With help from intimidation from security)

Is this legal to do once a bet has been paid out?

Then after some arguing they banned him as he left.

Sould I tell him to get the gaming commision involved?

Thanks
Steve





no.

a dealer has made a mistake, your friend should not benefit from this just tell him next time take it like a adult and give back the money without crying or trying to fight


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: StuartHopkin on October 13, 2008, 06:44:03 PM
Mmmm

I dont think they can do that, but then my local casino has some great ways of sorting these kind of disputes.

Im not sure, but i know a man who will know exactly so ill get back with some info asap.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: Hawkeye1976 on October 13, 2008, 06:46:23 PM
thx for the constructive feedback Stuart.

Steve


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on October 13, 2008, 06:46:38 PM
Obv your friend new the dealer made the mistake..


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: StuartHopkin on October 13, 2008, 06:55:43 PM
Just had a reply.

They are definately aloud to do this. Apparently in the CUB rules what ever they may be.

Just asked him the interesting question of what would happen if your friend had then lost the £600 or even worse span it up to £6000


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: StuartHopkin on October 13, 2008, 07:02:18 PM
Gets better.

If your friend had lost the money in the next spin, the casino would offer a repayment deal but if no joy they would be banned nationally.

Got to love roulette.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: Hawkeye1976 on October 13, 2008, 08:52:32 PM
Thx.....

Game over then.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: scotty2hatty on October 13, 2008, 10:52:35 PM
Obv your friend new the dealer made the mistake..

rooks stop spelling knew without the k


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: thetank on October 14, 2008, 12:33:22 AM
I got paid wrong once, straight to the cashier's desk I went, and then straight home lol

Gets better.

If your friend had lost the money in the next spin, the casino would offer a repayment deal but if no joy they would be banned nationally.

Got to love roulette.

Didn't know things were that bad, in hindsight I should have just gone straight home and come back to cash the chips another day.



Yes yes, I grimmed a poor casino. Bad tank bad tank.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: phatomch on October 14, 2008, 08:07:29 AM
thx for the constructive feedback Stuart.

Steve

ive worked in casino's for 10 yrs, my advice was constructive.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: relaedgc on October 14, 2008, 09:22:49 AM
thx for the constructive feedback Stuart.

Steve

ive worked in casino's for 10 yrs, my advice was constructive.


No it wasn't. You told him the right answer. He didn't want to hear that. Please, in future, just tell people that casino managers are horrible thieving b*stards. Thank you.


And yes, for what it is worth, you got paid out in error. I've never understood why people believe that because it's a casino, that it must be okay to keep the money when something is done incorrectly. If I make a mistake, and you keep the proceeds because I paid you wrong, that makes you a thief. Don't care who you are or what the reason. A little bit of common sense and honesty never hurt anybody. They caught on to their mistake and the diplomatic and honest thing to do is hand back the money you never ought to have had in the first place. Sorry if that's what you didn't want to hear.

Please let me know if you can find anything in the Gambling commission regulations that make it acceptable to steal, though. I'll take it all back, if so.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: WYSINWYG on October 14, 2008, 10:27:43 AM


Please let me know if you can find anything in the Gambling commission regulations that make it acceptable to steal, though. I'll take it all back, if so.

The bit where they let drunk punters come into their joint and let them spunk the last of their hard-earned cash on a game which they know they have no chance of beating in the long-run.  ;)

Yeah, I know the punter 'chooses' (if that's a word that can be applied to drunk people) to gamble their money, but if by a random mistake the balance for once falls in favour of the punter, few people are shedding a tear for the poor hard done by casino.

Sorry, I have a very cynical view of casinos. Getting banned from every casino prob the best thing that could happen to anyone that throws money after the spinning ball.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: relaedgc on October 14, 2008, 10:51:15 AM


Please let me know if you can find anything in the Gambling commission regulations that make it acceptable to steal, though. I'll take it all back, if so.

The bit where they let drunk punters come into their joint and let them spunk the last of their hard-earned cash on a game which they know they have no chance of beating in the long-run.  ;)

Yeah, I know the punter 'chooses' (if that's a word that can be applied to drunk people) to gamble their money, but if by a random mistake the balance for once falls in favour of the punter, few people are shedding a tear for the poor hard done by casino.

Sorry, I have a very cynical view of casinos. Getting banned from every casino prob the best thing that could happen to anyone that throws money after the spinning ball.

You know what you are getting inside a casino. I am not sympathetic to anyone that loses money at the spinning wheel. It's my livelihood yet I have never begrudged a win to any person be they the biggest tosspot in the world or a genuinely nice person. My point is that I am the one getting it in the neck if I pay out by mistake and if you receive money in error, it is theft to keep it. That the game is in favour of the house doesn't mean you cannot win at it at least once.

If you're trying to beat roulette consistently then you've got a different problem altogether. You walked in the door, I didn't force you. You wanted to get drunk while playing a game of chance, I didn't make you. The job itself turns those within rather cynical themselves, particularly about those that stand on the other side of the table. It is likely that which puts me at odds with most people when these discussions arise.

Sometimes I am thankful that I mostly deal poker, these days.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: Karabiner on October 14, 2008, 11:05:19 AM
I think the mistake that this guy made was giving the money back and still getting banned.

He could have kept the money and got banned or given it back and not got banned.

I knew someone a few years ago who got overpaid a few hundred ££ by the cage cashing out at Derby when it was the Hamblin Grand and when he refused to give it back he got banned, but he knew that was the price.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: WYSINWYG on October 14, 2008, 11:06:13 AM


Please let me know if you can find anything in the Gambling commission regulations that make it acceptable to steal, though. I'll take it all back, if so.

The bit where they let drunk punters come into their joint and let them spunk the last of their hard-earned cash on a game which they know they have no chance of beating in the long-run.  ;)

Yeah, I know the punter 'chooses' (if that's a word that can be applied to drunk people) to gamble their money, but if by a random mistake the balance for once falls in favour of the punter, few people are shedding a tear for the poor hard done by casino.

Sorry, I have a very cynical view of casinos. Getting banned from every casino prob the best thing that could happen to anyone that throws money after the spinning ball.

You know what you are getting inside a casino. I am not sympathetic to anyone that loses money at the spinning wheel. It's my livelihood yet I have never begrudged a win to any person be they the biggest tosspot in the world or a genuinely nice person. My point is that I am the one getting it in the neck if I pay out by mistake and if you receive money in error, it is theft to keep it. That the game is in favour of the house doesn't mean you cannot win at it at least once.

If you're trying to beat roulette consistently then you've got a different problem altogether. You walked in the door, I didn't force you. You wanted to get drunk while playing a game of chance, I didn't make you. The job itself turns those within rather cynical themselves, particularly about those that stand on the other side of the table. It is likely that which puts me at odds with most people when these discussions arise.

Sometimes I am thankful that I mostly deal poker, these days.
Write a blog, would be a good read!


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: relaedgc on October 14, 2008, 11:08:53 AM
Probably get me sacked, though. Sometimes I wonder if I don't overdo it by virtue of simply posting on here. Besides, I've never kept a diary so I doubt I'd be able to maintain a blog. It'd only serve to remind me of how much of a waste my life presently is. A scary thought!


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: relaedgc on October 14, 2008, 03:43:51 PM
I took your advice. I now have a blog. Quite enjoyed writing the intro, actually.


Title: Re: Casino Issue - Gaming Board
Post by: WYSINWYG on October 14, 2008, 05:56:58 PM
I took your advice. I now have a blog. Quite enjoyed writing the intro, actually.
Awesome, I'll read with interest.

Maybe not a bad thing if it helps you sort out a new direction if that's what you want.